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Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:13 PM Aug 2014

I seriously need some aggressive cat advice from some of the resident DU cat experts!!

My tortie has gone berserk. She went into a frenzie, yesterday afternoon, I'm pretty sure after spotting the neighborhood feral. That used to happen before I got her spayed, but this is the first time, since, that it's been this bad.

I really am terrified that she will seriously injure my other little cat because she goes all evil medieval on her. Hissing, clawing, growling, snarling, chasing at a full run - absolutely terrifying to witness. She will hiss and growl at me, but not every time - before she was fixed she would attack me, too. I took her to the vet, but they couldn't find any physical problems - just that she's probably very territorial. Getting her spayed would probably help and it did, for a while.

Anyway, I have her segregated in the 3 season room with lots of food, water, and a fresh litter box. I tried a slow re-introduction between the cats but it didn't go well. I'll try again when I get home from work, tomorrow. These are two rescue cats, from the same house. They usually get along, just fine, but now some sort of cat demon attaches itself to the tortie, and all hell broke loose

So, any advice on what else I should be doing/trying/buying???

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I seriously need some aggressive cat advice from some of the resident DU cat experts!! (Original Post) Siwsan Aug 2014 OP
I don't know. I have an old-man cat who didn't like my other cat TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #1
You should have the vet check her for hidden ailments. Cleita Aug 2014 #2
She check out ok with the vet, the last time, but who knows Siwsan Aug 2014 #4
get the second opinion, a nail trim and application of "soft claws" caps while you are at it.... bettyellen Aug 2014 #6
His name is Jackson Galaxy and he's amazing in his work Cleita Aug 2014 #8
yeah, I followed a few of his suggestions, and my cats get along so much better now. bettyellen Aug 2014 #11
Honestly - get a second opinion Ruby the Liberal Aug 2014 #3
Great advice! Siwsan Aug 2014 #5
I have one like that. Le Taz Hot Aug 2014 #7
Both of my cats were rescued from a drug addicted hoarder's house Siwsan Aug 2014 #10
Darth Loki? nt tblue37 Aug 2014 #24
I have 3 torties...they're all nuts joeybee12 Aug 2014 #9
Torties are, indeed, nuts Siwsan Aug 2014 #12
Scarlet, who is now in kitteh heaven with her sister Melanie, joeybee12 Aug 2014 #13
Thanks - Sophie is a tiny little tuxedo cat, no match for a burly tortie! Siwsan Aug 2014 #14
They were! And they're both thinking... joeybee12 Aug 2014 #21
Beautiful babies--especially the tortie! nt tblue37 Aug 2014 #26
My large 9-year-old tortie Maine Coon is the sweetest, most submissive of all my 4 cats. tblue37 Aug 2014 #25
Feliway sometimes helps with aggression. Hatchling Aug 2014 #15
I know Feliway helped my two cats calm the fuck down... Orsino Aug 2014 #32
I wonder if it's displaced aggression. freedom fighter jh Aug 2014 #16
Funny thing about the laser light - the tortie ignores it! Siwsan Aug 2014 #17
Tartar control treats! Had an outdoor cat name Anthony ... 4139 Aug 2014 #18
Happened with cat, Cleo Corgigal Aug 2014 #19
Our Sweetie Pie did the same thing, and went into a psychosis SoCalDem Aug 2014 #20
Any update on your kitty? eom Cleita Aug 2014 #22
I use this stuff to keep my huge boy tabby at bay from attacking others MohRokTah Aug 2014 #23
We got kiva Aug 2014 #27
call Jackson Galaxy eShirl Aug 2014 #28
There was an episode with this specific issue gollygee Aug 2014 #30
My female cat used to scream Politicalboi Aug 2014 #29
Boud has stopped hissing and growing at me - still hissing at Sophie Siwsan Aug 2014 #31

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
1. I don't know. I have an old-man cat who didn't like my other cat
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:19 PM
Aug 2014

using the litterboxes. Got very territorial about it, would attack my other poor kitteh WHILE SHE USED IT--he would ambush her, you would not believe what a mess would result from two cats wrestling among cat poo, and she became afraid to use the litterbox at all. I would have to go into the basement with her and "guard" her. But he wasn't aggressive in other situations. It did get worse when they all started being "indoor" cats exclusively after having been indoor/outdoor at our last house. Hope someone else has more insight.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
2. You should have the vet check her for hidden ailments.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:20 PM
Aug 2014

My cat is very aggressive and it turns out much of it is caused by underlying chronic medical conditions I have to medicate him for. I go to a vet that's a cat behavior specialist too as the rank and file vets were no help to me and I kept going to the ER because of his attacks on me.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
4. She check out ok with the vet, the last time, but who knows
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:25 PM
Aug 2014

If this doesn't subside in the next day, or so, I'm going to take her back. She let me pick her up and pet her so she's not in pain, and she isn't consistently growling or hissing at me - just at poor Sophie! I'm pretty sure she saw the feral and maybe it got aggressive towards her, so she 'projected' her reaction onto Sophie.

Maybe I need to get her to a good cat psychiatrist!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
6. get the second opinion, a nail trim and application of "soft claws" caps while you are at it....
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:31 PM
Aug 2014

that way she can't dig in and puncture anyone for a while.
Have you watched any of "My Cat From Hell"? That guy is amazing figuring out what a cat needs to chill out.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
8. His name is Jackson Galaxy and he's amazing in his work
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:34 PM
Aug 2014

with unhappy kitties and their unhappy human parents.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
3. Honestly - get a second opinion
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:24 PM
Aug 2014

They didn't find anything wrong with my (now) cat before the first owners returned her to the breeder. I got her as a 4.5 year old once-homed "uncontrollable" rescue. My vet didn't see it at first either.

Turns out she had polyps in her ears that grew to where they burst her ear drums. Once removed, she went from aggressive and angry (from the pain) to the sweetest cat you could ever dream of, and she is 80% wild (80% asian leopard/ 20% egyptian mao).

Boggles the mind what happens when you find the thorn and take it from the cat's paw.

It could also be a kidney/bladder issue causing pain/aggression - or any number of things.

Find another vet and get a second opinion.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
7. I have one like that.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:32 PM
Aug 2014

Loki. We refer to her as "Her Darkness," because of her personality and the fact that she's all black. She was a rescue at 5 weeks old and was always VERY aggressive both to humans and other animals. She can be sweet, loving, and mellow and out of nowhere try to tear your face off. She had to become an outside kittie. The other cats, including my alpha female, give her a WIDE berth. She is my psycho baby. I've thought about putting her down but, since the outside thing seemed to work, we feel like we've found the solution that works for us as putting her down would have broken my heart. I do love her even though she is crazy.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
10. Both of my cats were rescued from a drug addicted hoarder's house
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:37 PM
Aug 2014

The tortie was pretty feral, living in the piles of clothes and junk and hiding when anyone came by to check on things. Once I got her here, she seemed to do really well, until she sees an outdoor cat.

I think I'll give this a couple of days and then if she's still trying to kill poor little Sophie, she's off to the vet. Maybe I'll also stock up on "kitty calm".

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
9. I have 3 torties...they're all nuts
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:34 PM
Aug 2014

My suggestion is to put her into a small room, maybe even the bathroom, with food, water and a litter box, and visit her there often and give her lots of affection, but don't let her out for a few days...I have to do this with feral kittens...smaller areas make cats feel more secure...she won't like it, but you probably will notice a difference, and she should be calmer...it will take re-introducing to the others, though, but it shouldn't be awful.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
12. Torties are, indeed, nuts
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:42 PM
Aug 2014

The 3 season room is pretty small. I put Sophie's Winter time kitty bed in there, with her, so she will stay familiar with her scent without actually seeing her.

I went in and gave her attention and she's quieter. Most important, the blinds are down and the window ledges are too narrow for her to make a perch. She's not one of those nimble cats. So, hopefully that 'trigger event' will fade from her memory.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
13. Scarlet, who is now in kitteh heaven with her sister Melanie,
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:46 PM
Aug 2014

used to get in moods sometimes...she was a classic calico, but could be very skittish...took the 2 to a new vet's when I moved, and she got very upset, threw up and pooped on Melanie on the way home, and then for a week hissed at Melanie whenever she came near, as if it was Melanie's fault. She got over it in a week...just stopped doing it...hopefully that will happen with Sophie in a few days...good luck.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
14. Thanks - Sophie is a tiny little tuxedo cat, no match for a burly tortie!
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:52 PM
Aug 2014

I just spent some quality scritching time with Boud (the tortie) and maybe got a very half hearted hiss, thrown my way, and no growling.

See, they used to be buddies!

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
25. My large 9-year-old tortie Maine Coon is the sweetest, most submissive of all my 4 cats.
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 03:18 PM
Aug 2014

It is my 9 1/2-year-old dilute calico angora who bullies and dominates all my other (younger, larger) cats.

Three of my 4 cats are rescues. My tortie, though, was a feral. She was found in the engine block of a truck in the Topeka warehouse district, where many feral cats have nests. It seems her mother went out hunting one day and didn't return, so Tango went looking, and since it was chilly, she crawled up into the engine block to get warm. Just before turning the ignition, the driver heard her squeaking.

She was just 2.4 pounds when I got her, so we thought she was maybe 6 weeks old, but she doubled her weight to 5 pounds within a week, after I got her worms, fleas, and ear mites treated. After two weeks, she was almost 7 pounds. It turned out that she was actually about 10 weeks old when I first got her, but so malnourished that she was severely underweight.

But although she is 4 pounds heavier than Paris, and only 5 months younger, Paris bullies and dominates her.

The fact that a cat is a tortie doesn't mean it will be aggressive or wild. I have never had an aggressive or uncooperative tortie.

Hatchling

(2,323 posts)
15. Feliway sometimes helps with aggression.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:54 PM
Aug 2014

My little tabby is a very territorial little girl and occasionally attacks her big brother who then proceeds to throw her down and chew on her. But the Felliway had lessoned this behavior and as you have seen it is usually provoked by outside cats coming to close to windows and doors.

Most pet shops carry it. It's not cheap. (at least for me)

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
32. I know Feliway helped my two cats calm the fuck down...
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 05:23 PM
Aug 2014

...when the second was introduced to the household.

freedom fighter jh

(1,782 posts)
16. I wonder if it's displaced aggression.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 08:02 PM
Aug 2014

My sister has two male cats, both indoor cats. Once she saw them looking out a big window when something juicy went by -- I don't remember what, but it was the kind of thing cats like to chase. The cats were stuck. There was nothing they could do. So one of them swatted the other and hissed at him.

People do this sort of thing all the time, so why not cats?

So maybe the torte just feels real aggressive toward the neighborhood feral and needs an outlet for her hostility. Is there something you can give her, maybe a toy cat or something? Or do that laser beam thing and let her take it out on the elusive spot? Maybe after some catharsis she can go back to her sister in peace.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
17. Funny thing about the laser light - the tortie ignores it!
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 08:05 PM
Aug 2014

Maybe she's color blind. But Sophie absolutely LOVES to chase the red dot.

I kind of suspect it is displaced aggression - it's just that we've had about 18 months of peace since the last explosion. Hopefully I'll be posting a positive update, in a few days!

4139

(1,893 posts)
18. Tartar control treats! Had an outdoor cat name Anthony ...
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 08:33 PM
Aug 2014

.. We called him tony for short. Gentlest cat on the planet.... One day tony ran across the street and attach a lady who live up the street.... He had been acting a little different lately. I forget had I came to figure it out but tony was having gum/mouth pain... Tartar cont treats!

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
19. Happened with cat, Cleo
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 08:40 PM
Aug 2014

after some weird behavior, to include crying and tearing stuff up, I took her to my vet. She's diabetic and now on insulin. Might want to take a look into that. Now Cleo is back to being her normal, but always hungry, self.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
20. Our Sweetie Pie did the same thing, and went into a psychosis
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:05 PM
Aug 2014

The vet rx-ed him with kitty-Paxil and after a few tense weeks, where we just isolated him from his fears (everything inside the house and near the screen door), he snapped out of it, but it was intense..

kiva

(4,373 posts)
27. We got
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 03:26 PM
Aug 2014

Natural Pet Anxiety & Stress, a homeopathic remedy, from PetCo. We used it when one cat started having some issues, just put it on the food; as picky as cats are none of them seem to taste it (we gave it to all of them over July 4th). It did seem to calm them.

Good luck.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
30. There was an episode with this specific issue
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 03:44 PM
Aug 2014

Where a cat got spooked (by a feral cat I think even) and then after that became a little kitty terrorist.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
29. My female cat used to scream
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 03:42 PM
Aug 2014

When she saw the black feral male cat outside our window. She hasn't been screaming lately even when she's outside and he appears. Our cats are indoor outdoor, and become very upset when they have to stay inside. They all take it out on each other. The feral kitten I have is the baby from the feral male cat my female screams at, he gets along with everybody, even though everybody doesn't like him. Hiss!

The kitten likes one of our male cats Victor. When he sees him, he hugs him around the neck till Victor hisses. I still need to get rid of this 4 month old kitten. He likes to hang with his pop as of late. Your cats will be fine. Since I've had this kitten, they all seem to get along better. Maybe you need this cute kitten I have. He "may" have magic powers.

Siwsan

(26,263 posts)
31. Boud has stopped hissing and growing at me - still hissing at Sophie
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 04:30 PM
Aug 2014

I'm seeing less aggressive behavior but Sophie is scared to death of Boud. I've decided to block the bottom section of the screened in porch, since the feral tends to slink across my back yard. Hopefully it will be 'out of sight, out of mind', for Boud.

I'm really a one-cat sort of person and Boud was only supposed to be a foster but the person who was supposed to take her, never did and the people who were sorting things out just sort of walked away from the situation.

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