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The Horror! Evangelical Protestants are beheading Jehovah's Witnesses? (Original Post) FrodosPet Aug 2014 OP
Huh?... DonViejo Aug 2014 #1
Earlier today Go Vols Aug 2014 #36
*sigh* Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #2
But Catholics and Protestants DID burn each other at the stake in the Middle Ages. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #3
Excuse me...How do you know those are Evangelical Protestants who did that? Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #4
Ohhhhhh....I see. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #6
I think this says more about the current cultures edhopper Aug 2014 #5
well, we aren't too far away from the troubles haele Aug 2014 #7
Was that mostly to do with competing faiths, or wanting the British out of Northern Ireland? Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #8
Little bit of column A Kurska Aug 2014 #9
I don't get this op. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #10
Too many people are painting false equivalence FrodosPet Aug 2014 #11
Thank you for helping me. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #12
Of course Christians wouldn't kill others! Chathamization Aug 2014 #13
Remind me again who keeps shooting doctors in this country? LeftyMom Aug 2014 #16
So a few lone wolves make most Christians the equivalent of ISIL fanatics? FrodosPet Aug 2014 #19
Lone wolves my ass. They're all tied to Operation Rescue and other organizations LeftyMom Aug 2014 #21
How many thousands of abortion doctors died last month? FrodosPet Aug 2014 #23
How many weren't trained because medical schools are terrified of Christian love? LeftyMom Aug 2014 #27
It's parroting some ignorant, racist propaganda JackRiddler Aug 2014 #14
Racist? oberliner Aug 2014 #24
Hey guys, oberliner thinks you can criticize a religion without being racist now. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #30
Huh? oberliner Aug 2014 #32
Where is the word ALL? FrodosPet Aug 2014 #29
Islamic State is bad news. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #33
If they knock on my door before I've had my coffee... LeftyMom Aug 2014 #15
Right now, Kenya, which is 70% Christian, is debating a law to kill all the gay people and to put Bluenorthwest Aug 2014 #17
Evangelical Protestants are killing gay people in Uganda. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #18
OK, I get it. I see the light! You are absolutely right FrodosPet Aug 2014 #20
Criticize your own fuckwitted coreligionists. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #22
I am not religious FrodosPet Aug 2014 #25
Pull the other one. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #28
You introduced the idea of Christians being better. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #34
If we wanted gellarisms, we'd visit her site. Scootaloo Aug 2014 #26
Pam Gellar made that video? FrodosPet Aug 2014 #31
Not the video, your rhetoric is Gellarist. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #35

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
3. But Catholics and Protestants DID burn each other at the stake in the Middle Ages.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:35 PM
Aug 2014

And don't forget the Crusades. And the Salem Witch Trials.

Hundreds of years ago, yes, so hopefully by the year 2400 the different Islamic sects will treat each other like Episcopalians and Methodists do today.

edhopper

(33,580 posts)
5. I think this says more about the current cultures
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:45 PM
Aug 2014

Evangelicals and JW's live in. The enlightenment did a lot to end laws and actions based on religion. Maybe these countries where the atrocities you satirize take place have their own enlightenment, things will improve.
As long as they let their religion dictate behavior, this kind of thing is apt to happen.

haele

(12,659 posts)
7. well, we aren't too far away from the troubles
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 08:25 PM
Aug 2014

I remember some of the horrors people who tried to live peacefully in Belfast went through, when your house could be bombed just because your kid was seen cutting across the wrong streets in his way home.

It wasn't that long go - a few decades.

Haele

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
8. Was that mostly to do with competing faiths, or wanting the British out of Northern Ireland?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:06 PM
Aug 2014

If the UK had happened to be a Catholic country, would the Irish have been just fine and dandy with British rule?

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
11. Too many people are painting false equivalence
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:20 PM
Aug 2014

Between the Christians, who can be intolerant assholes, but in modern times are not chasing down people of different denominations and coldly murdering them, while cheering and videotaping their acts of brutality, and the people (if we can call them that) in Syria and Iraq who are doing exactly that very thing.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
12. Thank you for helping me.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:24 PM
Aug 2014

Without liberal democracy things can go very bad very quickly as we are seeing now.

I will say in Africa we sttill have Muslim and Christian tribes killing each other and doing these horrible things.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
16. Remind me again who keeps shooting doctors in this country?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:47 PM
Aug 2014

There's a log in your eye. Do you needsome tweezers and a mirror?

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
19. So a few lone wolves make most Christians the equivalent of ISIL fanatics?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:04 PM
Aug 2014

I am afraid you may need to have your lenses checked.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
21. Lone wolves my ass. They're all tied to Operation Rescue and other organizations
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:09 PM
Aug 2014

supported by any number of churches.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
23. How many thousands of abortion doctors died last month?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:13 PM
Aug 2014

Is it in the thousands?

That's how many non-Sunni have been shot, point blank in the head.

How about hundreds? Dozens? Were any at all killed last month?

Lots of evil going around, but Operation Rescue is unlikely to trigger a nuclear war. ISIL is capable of it, and looking forward to it.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
27. How many weren't trained because medical schools are terrified of Christian love?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:19 PM
Aug 2014

How many fake anthrax letters are mailed to clinics?

Your religion isn't better than any other, its' criminal element is only contained by a more stable country and a great expenditure of police and health resources that could be better used HELPING THE POOR LIKE THAT GUY IN THE SANDALS WANTED.

You're not better than those people. You just live in a functioning society. No thanks to the evangelical right.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
14. It's parroting some ignorant, racist propaganda
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:40 PM
Aug 2014

about how all those people out there are animals, not like civilized Westerners who don't behead people. (Unless a drone strike happens to knock off their head, you know? We always behead collaterally, so to speak.)

With most people who do this it's a psychological device for distancing oneself from the crimes of one's own culture, one's own nation. The U.S. government launched a war of aggression, destroyed one nation directly and helped destroy another (Syria had to absorb four million Iraqi refugees for years, and of course the faction that became IS were originally set up by Gulf States and CIA).

As a means of dealing with the situation in Iraq, the U.S. started a genocide among factions that it armed heavily. Now the latest round of ethnic cleansing is underway and Americans who think they're smart and enlightened tell themselves such stories to pretend they had nothing to do with it. It's all because of their religion, nothing to do with economics, history, imperialism, etc.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
30. Hey guys, oberliner thinks you can criticize a religion without being racist now.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:22 PM
Aug 2014

Somebody bookmark, you'll get a lot of mileage out of it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
32. Huh?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:29 PM
Aug 2014

I just thought it was more anti-Islam prejudice than anti-Arab prejudice?

Maybe I misunderstood the initial comment.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
29. Where is the word ALL?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:21 PM
Aug 2014

Do you actually study what is happening over there?

Do you watch any videos? Seen the masses with fiery determination and religious glee anxious to go on a bloodthirsty rampage?

Thank goodness our President is far wiser and better informed than the people who would let these monsters run unimpeded!

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
33. Islamic State is bad news.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:34 PM
Aug 2014

The Gulf States should have never supported it, and the U.S. shouldn't have thus armed it indirectly.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
17. Right now, Kenya, which is 70% Christian, is debating a law to kill all the gay people and to put
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:49 PM
Aug 2014

their friends in prison for life. I'm not sure you really have a strong contrast between the faiths.
"A new gay genocide bill that would see gay citizens sentenced to death by stoning is under discussion in Kenya."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014867816

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
18. Evangelical Protestants are killing gay people in Uganda.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 09:49 PM
Aug 2014

And beating adopted children to death in the USA. For that matter they kill gay people here too.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
20. OK, I get it. I see the light! You are absolutely right
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:08 PM
Aug 2014

No one can criticize Islamic extremism because some Christians are sadistic fuqheads as well. Or, if they do, they must point it all out.

Makes me want to buy a ticket to see Robin Williams and skip the cruel stupidity coming at us full speed.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
22. Criticize your own fuckwitted coreligionists.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:12 PM
Aug 2014

Attacking people on another goddamn continent that nobody here supports to begin with is intellectually lazy slacktivism at best and a deliberate obfuscation of the problems in your own religion at worst.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
25. I am not religious
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:14 PM
Aug 2014

I am an agnostic.

And what they are doing over there has repercussions over here.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
31. Pam Gellar made that video?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:23 PM
Aug 2014

What is it that you are saying?

People are NOT being beheaded in Iraq and Syria? This was all special effects?

Or it's not our problem, shut up, we should not be bombing?

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