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We must save seeds. (Original Post) roody Aug 2014 OP
I agree. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #1
I added the link. roody Aug 2014 #2
Link to Bountiful Gardens- roody Aug 2014 #3
The list is impressive. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #5
Pots are easy to water. I use them too. roody Aug 2014 #6
K&R. Fight back against corporate domination. Especially when the corporation is Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2014 #4
This won't work with conventional hybrids though NickB79 Aug 2014 #7
What you and other posters... BronxBoy Aug 2014 #10
For heirloom plants Treant Aug 2014 #8
K and R geardaddy Aug 2014 #9
sorry, but seeds won't save us belltower Aug 2014 #11
Well, we had a good run. nt TeamPooka Aug 2014 #13
surely you jest belltower Aug 2014 #15
Have seed capsules forming on many of my species orchids REP Aug 2014 #12
I hope they are saving cannabis seeds too. nt TeamPooka Aug 2014 #14

NickB79

(19,246 posts)
7. This won't work with conventional hybrids though
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 02:30 PM
Aug 2014

Which are many of the most popular garden vegetables: sweet corn, tomatoes, acorn squash, etc.

I tried very hard to do the all-heirloom and/or open-pollinated route for several years, saving my own seeds, etc. This year, my heirloom tomatoes with no bred-in resistance were devastated by blight, and despite resorting to fungicides, they're withering away as we speak.

Similarly, my open-pollinated acorn squash don't yield nearly as well as hybrids I used to plant in the past, even with similar growing conditions.

On the other hand, I've had WONDERFUL results saving seeds from watermelon, peas, peppers, and cucumbers.

I've learned to save what I can, but also to realize that, if I want the most food production as possible, to use varieties I can't save on my own. It sucks, but it is what it is.

BronxBoy

(2,286 posts)
10. What you and other posters...
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 04:04 PM
Aug 2014

have posted about hybrids and heirlooms are true. We are experimenting with grafter tomatoes this year but I don't know how realistic it would be to think grafting will become a common thing among home and small scale gardener.

What I hope this program will also create are great hybrid varieties that will be available in the public domain sans licensing restrictions. Don't know if that will materialize but I hope so

Treant

(1,968 posts)
8. For heirloom plants
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 03:00 PM
Aug 2014

this works beautifully. For F1 hybrids, not so much as they're inconsistent in terms of what the children produce and the children can be much weaker than the parents.

I preserve five heirloom flowers in my garden via seed collection. I don't bother with the basic zinnia as they're hybrid and the daughters are unpredictable in terms of characteristics.

 

belltower

(74 posts)
11. sorry, but seeds won't save us
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 04:35 PM
Aug 2014

Here's an excellent summation of material from http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/, that clearly states the timeline for our extinction. It's happening now and will surely be abundantly clear in time for 2016.

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