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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 10:57 AM Aug 2014

We Seem To Have Too Many Police Who Should Not Be Policeman.

Standards for police recruits should involve thorough psychological evaluations. Even though such evaluations might not eliminate questionable recruits. And there should be better training as well as civilians on police boards or civilian commissions who monitor police actions.

There are just too many unnecessary deaths happening these days that are questionable. And brutality seems to be on the rise.

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We Seem To Have Too Many Police Who Should Not Be Policeman. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Aug 2014 OP
Per the plan. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2014 #1
I've always said madokie Aug 2014 #2
A cousin of mine with anger issues applied to a W. PA police dept. BuelahWitch Aug 2014 #3
Did you know that too high an IQ can EXCLUDE you from consideration Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #4
MOST police should not be policemen. Atman Aug 2014 #5
I'm so sick of hearing about cops who pull unethical shit and say: "Probable cause, man." Aristus Aug 2014 #6
We have too many police. SamKnause Aug 2014 #7
I have a friend who told me that her cop friend told her that she should Baitball Blogger Aug 2014 #8

madokie

(51,076 posts)
2. I've always said
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 10:59 AM
Aug 2014

that the guy or gal who really wants to be a cop probably shouldn't be. at least until their motives are fully understood

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
3. A cousin of mine with anger issues applied to a W. PA police dept.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:05 AM
Aug 2014

They turned him down. Some time later Jeff ended up doing time in the state pen for assault and battery. That was about 20 years ago. I wonder if they would take him now.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
4. Did you know that too high an IQ can EXCLUDE you from consideration
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:09 AM
Aug 2014

for a cop job? It' true.

A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.

The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test.

“This kind of puts an official face on discrimination in America against people of a certain class,” Jordan said today from his Waterford home. “I maintain you have no more control over your basic intelligence than your eye color or your gender or anything else.”

He said he does not plan to take any further legal action.

Jordan, a 49-year-old college graduate, took the exam in 1996 and scored 33 points, the equivalent of an IQ of 125. But New London police interviewed only candidates who scored 20 to 27, on the theory that those who scored too high could get bored with police work and leave soon after undergoing costly training.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

Beyond that, 2 additional thoughts.

First, Fitness for Duty (FFD) evaluations are really not all that good at screening out potential problems. For example, the entire pool is likely to have unusually high authoritarian traits. And in general, tools like the VRAG (Violence Risk Assessment Guide) have only been validated on people who have already committed violent offenses.

Second, even the recruits who can pass FFD evals on hire would often be unable to pass the same eval after 5 years on the job (exposure to cop culture, exposure to too many nasty situations, etc.).

Atman

(31,464 posts)
5. MOST police should not be policemen.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:13 AM
Aug 2014

It's a wiring problem. You want to take control, administer authority over all the kids that towel-whipped you in middle school. My sister was about to marry a cop quite a few years ago. As in a bad rom-com movie script, she actually called off the wedding just a few weeks beforehand, after all the invitations went out, band and caterer booked, the guests sent gifts. Why? He was a cop.

She found out he had used the police department computer system to run background checks on every member of our family. They lived in the woods, and he kept his loaded revolver on the nightstand. She said he woke up every single night for SOMETHING he heard outside, and would go from window to window with his gun drawn, insistent that someone was lurking outside. He seemed more concerned with his meticulous uniform and hyper-polished shoes than with actual police work. He admitted to us one night how it was common practice to just pull over anyone after a certain hour (being out past 2:00 am is "probable cause." No one should be out that late). He was straight out of a Village People set, and it seemed as if his grooming and his cool look in uniform was more important than any sort of "police" work.

His main goal in life was to buy a three family house in Manchester, NH, so his mom and his aunt could live with them. I suppose so he could control them. That's when my sister realized he was totally whacked. I know other cops, and I can think of only ONE that I trust as being a genuinely good person. The others all give me the creeps as being mentally unhinged, just like my almost-brother-in-law.

Aristus

(66,372 posts)
6. I'm so sick of hearing about cops who pull unethical shit and say: "Probable cause, man."
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:18 AM
Aug 2014

Only a judge is legally empowered to determine probable cause.

SamKnause

(13,106 posts)
7. We have too many police.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 12:36 PM
Aug 2014

We have too many untrained or poorly trained police.

We have too many police with anger issues.

We have too many police that are racists.

We have too many police that stand on the side lines and allow many atrocities to occur.

We have a police union that protects the guilty.

We have too many SWAT teams.

We have too many SWAT team raids.

We have too many SWAT team raids at the incorrect address.

We have too many deaths at the hands of the police.

Veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan are being encouraged to join the police force.

The police have acquired (courtesy of the federal government) military weapons and vehicles.

The CIA is the most powerful branch of government.

The CIA is involved in the drug trade.


The fake and failed war on drugs has been a direct attack on the American people and the governments of the world who allow the U.S. to influence their drug policies with bribes and weapons.



Baitball Blogger

(46,713 posts)
8. I have a friend who told me that her cop friend told her that she should
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 12:57 PM
Aug 2014

never trust the police, because every cop is crooked.

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