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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 02:50 PM Aug 2014

Eat Well on $4 a Day -- the free SNAP cookbook project

Leanne Brown is a Canadian who came to NYC to earn a Masters in food studies. She was struck by the American attitude toward those using SNAP benefits and she took a novel approach to making a difference.

"It really bothered me," she says. "The 47 million people on food stamps — and that's a big chunk of the population — don't have the same choices everyone else does."
...
SNAP has no equivalent in Brown's home country of Canada; its public assistance programs are more flexible, she says. And she wasn't impressed with what she found when she went looking for resources for people in the U.S. program on how to cook well with the benefits.

"Tons of organizations are doing amazing, useful work, but usually their recipes can sound sort of preachy, or else they're very governmental," she says. Brown thinks the cookbooks that exist try to tell people the right way to live their lives — explaining what exactly they should eat and how exactly they should prepare it — and that often turns them off to the recipes.
...
Good and Cheap is also filled with beautiful photos — a visual feast, especially compared with the other recipe books tailored to people in SNAP. Take the U.S. Department of Agriculture's . Orange lines and black bullet points fill up entire pages, with equally uninspiring sketches on the side. And compare their Turkey Cabbage Casserole to Brown's Savory Summer Cobbler, which both Sanders and Mahoney cite as their favorite dish. Even the name draws a reader to the recipe, which features seasonal vegetables under a peppery biscuit crust. The lush photo that accompanies it on the page doesn't hurt.


http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/08/01/337141837/cheap-eats-cookbook-shows-how-to-eat-well-on-a-food-stamp-budget

Now she is printing books for those without computer/internet access and her KickStarter campaign has had enormous success.

A PDF copy of this beautiful, love-infused book is available here, free:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/490865454/good-and-cheap
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Eat Well on $4 a Day -- the free SNAP cookbook project (Original Post) KurtNYC Aug 2014 OP
Good idea. k&r. n/t FSogol Aug 2014 #1
Nice but don't let the Republicans hear of this book yeoman6987 Aug 2014 #26
kick. nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #2
Should be required reading for college students (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2014 #3
I'm not on SNAP, but $4 a day is realy attractive. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #4
I stumbled onto this project while looking for recipes for green beans KurtNYC Aug 2014 #6
Im going to try to be more intentional with meals too. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #7
I like the link - and the recipes - and I would also recommend BudgetBytes. MissB Aug 2014 #23
Thanks. What a great resource. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #24
Cool book, looked through and most of the recipes look legit for a budget. dilby Aug 2014 #5
Yeah, that's the first thing that jumped out at me. Shandris Aug 2014 #12
Yeah the spices will be killer on a budget but once you have them they last. dilby Aug 2014 #21
I've bought many spices at the 99 cent store, blueamy66 Aug 2014 #31
While it's a good idea, it's geared toward college kids Warpy Aug 2014 #8
I don't know a lot of college kids who make Chana Marsala. moriah Aug 2014 #11
Chana Masala is so easy - open a can of chickpeas. closeupready Aug 2014 #14
Shrimp? Broccoli rabe? She has a distinct fondness for the latter. Warpy Aug 2014 #15
1) she is still open to suggestions and recipes for the final final book and PDF KurtNYC Aug 2014 #20
you guys are missing the point (group reply) Niceguy1 Aug 2014 #27
Can only get broccoli rabe at Whole Foods in Phoenix blueamy66 Aug 2014 #32
For us, the secret to eating cheap and well is Indian food. CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #9
Dahl with naan bread laundry_queen Aug 2014 #13
We had a new one yesterday CBGLuthier Aug 2014 #18
That's my favorite kind laundry_queen Aug 2014 #25
I would love this in print and would be willing to pay for it. GobBluth Aug 2014 #10
"Get One, Give One" is one of the options in the right hand column here KurtNYC Aug 2014 #17
This reminds me of Depression Era Cookbooks leftstreet Aug 2014 #16
Direct download link (google drive)... PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #19
As long as the word "Critters" doesn't show up.... Thor_MN Aug 2014 #22
Beats dealing with income inequality, I guess. n/t Orsino Aug 2014 #28
How, exactly, is this Canadian woman Mariana Aug 2014 #29
I didn't believe anyone would read my post that way. Orsino Aug 2014 #30
Rec'd. There are 77 million Americans in debt collections too Corruption Inc Aug 2014 #33
bump, as it is in the news again tomm2thumbs Aug 2015 #34
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
26. Nice but don't let the Republicans hear of this book
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 07:46 PM
Aug 2014

They will cut the food stamps down to 120 a month.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
4. I'm not on SNAP, but $4 a day is realy attractive.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 03:21 PM
Aug 2014

Even quick pickups at the grocery store leave me $50 poorer. Every time.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
6. I stumbled onto this project while looking for recipes for green beans
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 03:47 PM
Aug 2014

I am a farmer with a special emphasis in fillet bean, edamame, snow peas and other legumes. She has corn meal crusted green beans in there which I must try.

Lots of her recipes are clever in their flexibility and all are attractively presented.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
7. Im going to try to be more intentional with meals too.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 03:56 PM
Aug 2014

I've been grabbing store made sushi and premade meals a lot.

MissB

(15,812 posts)
23. I like the link - and the recipes - and I would also recommend BudgetBytes.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 06:33 PM
Aug 2014

budgetbytes.com

Seriously, everything I've tried there is amazing. Chicken Taco Bowl (my teenage boys love it), quick curried chickpeas and tandoori chicken (quick cooking on a panini maker if you have one - literally like 3 minutes per piece), Greek marinated chicken, dragon noodles, lemon blueberry corn bread, pumpkin oatmeal, hearty black bean quesadillas (which can be put together and then wrapped and frozen for quick cooking on the aforementioned panini maker by even a teenage boy). Her recipes list the prices per ingredient so you can get a general idea of the cost to you based on how much you know your local prices. I also like that she has info on basic stuff, like cooking beans from dry instead of grabbing a can, and freezing them. Which some people know how to do but some do not.

I haven't tried some of her soups and breads yet, but I hope to soon. I did buy her cookbook, which has other recipes than what is on the website. I haven't tried that extensively yet other than a salad dressing (that uses plain yogurt, balsamic, olive oil, garlic etc and is amazing). I'll be trying her coconut chicken curry - all of her stuff is fast and amazingly good and uses pantry staples that I usually have on hand.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
24. Thanks. What a great resource.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 06:36 PM
Aug 2014

I have to admit though, that the 10 for $10 sales always derail my food budget. It's a conspiracy!

dilby

(2,273 posts)
5. Cool book, looked through and most of the recipes look legit for a budget.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 03:23 PM
Aug 2014

My only concern is that people on a budget generally will not have the spices called for which are expensive. I would have much preferred her to kind of use a base spice list, she seems to go over with the amount of spices she uses in her cooking. One recipe calls for paprika and the next calls for sweet paprika, make it easier on someone on a budget and just use one of those throughout the book. Same with a lot of her other recipes, some spices she only uses once in the book. That is my only critique.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
12. Yeah, that's the first thing that jumped out at me.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:31 PM
Aug 2014

With a $28/week budget, she goes through it by the second page if you don't have everything on hand already. The stew alone would set you back more than an entire week's food (according to the $4 budget) at frickin' Wal-Mart, let alone anywhere expensive. Downthread someone mentions the 'thrifty' lifestyle would benefit more from this on average. I'd be inclined to agree; in my area, I know of maybe 2 families with the time to actually make this stuff 2-3 times/day between work and they're both low-income but with a stay-at-home mother.

I'm glad someone pointed this out though; even if someone can't make these all the time, once you have the initial 'ingredient shock' covered you can eat well, cheaply, even just making 1/day plus I've passed it along to others I know.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
21. Yeah the spices will be killer on a budget but once you have them they last.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 05:11 PM
Aug 2014

Unfortunately I think a lot of people who are on a budget will look at the recipes see the cost of spices and then decide the book is not for them. She would have been better off with listing alternative spices that can be used for each recipe, like using Allspice for recipes that call for Clove, Ginger and Cinnamon or which spices are not necessarily required but just make the dish taste better. She should have started the book with a suggestion of 6 basic staple spices for all recipes and then people can use additional spices as they add them to their pantry over time.

At the end of the book she does explain spices are expensive and gives suggestions on combo's to try but I think most people wont get to that part of the book, it's something that should be at the very beginning. I have an Indian cook book that is fantastic and the guy starts the beginning of the book saying, spices are expensive, here are staples to have in your pantry and here are suggestions for alternatives for spices you don't have or can't find in your supermarket.

Warpy

(111,352 posts)
8. While it's a good idea, it's geared toward college kids
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 03:57 PM
Aug 2014

and a little naive about what it means to be truly poor, long term.

That means few condiments and seasonings unless one has access to a health food store that sells them in bulk. It means very little animal protein and more filler like day old breads and pastries. It means eating cheaper junk rather than nutritious food so the pain in your middle doesn't cut you in half because you can't eat enough nutritious food on SNAP to keep you from being hungry all the time.

If you know anything about nutrition, it means beans, grains, cheap root veggies, and homemade breads and sprouts. It means a boring diet that doesn't photograph well but will keep your guts from trying to kill you while keeping you well nourished, even in a food desert that never sees fresh veggies unless they can be kept a long time.

It also means not having time to cook elaborate meals because two part time jobs with long travel times barely leave you enough time to sleep some days, if you're lucky. If you're not lucky, your TANF and SNAP money leave you with a week every month with no money at all.

I wish Brown a great deal of success with her cookbook. I hope she follows it up with listening to enough poor people to produce a more realistic book for poor families.



moriah

(8,311 posts)
11. I don't know a lot of college kids who make Chana Marsala.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:17 PM
Aug 2014

Most of the ones I know eat lots of Ramen to survive

And if you don't have time to cook a meal, a cookbook isn't going to help you much, as cooking from scratch does take time. That's why it's cheaper than boxed food that's practically pre-prepared. The reason the banana pancakes she writes have a 15-minute setting period is they *are* made from scratch, and certainly the ingredients to make it are cheaper than buying boxed pancake mix.

None of the recipes seem to be 2-3 hour gourmet meals (and believe me, I'm not much of a cook). While it'd be nice to see more that are 20 minutes or less, 45 minutes to an hour is about normal for a meal not from a box.

Really, it seems more geared toward the "thrifty" lifestyle more than the poor lifestyle -- this would be a great gift for a stay-at-home mom raising babies while her husband works. Yes, under FS rules, such a family would qualify for SNAP because the non-working person is taking care of children under 5.

As for veggie access, I'm thrilled to see more farmer's markets getting eligibility to accept SNAP. The local one here does, but Arkansas is a state with an abundance of produce this time of year. It would be far more difficult to cook the way this woman has suggested out-of-season unless you went for frozen vegetables.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
14. Chana Masala is so easy - open a can of chickpeas.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:43 PM
Aug 2014

Fry up some onion and garlic in a pan with oil, add tomato paste, seasonings, and chickpeas, then taste for salt/pepper, and serve. Ready in 10-15 minutes. Probably $0.40/serving. You get fiber, vitamins and minerals, fats, protein, complex carbs.

Noodles are simple carbs, salt and little else. Live on it, and you'll likely get ill.

I know that you weren't really disputing the value of the cookbook or anything, just wanted to point out that once you've learned to cook the basics, more complex-sounding dishes aren't so intimidating or time-consuming.

Cheers.

Warpy

(111,352 posts)
15. Shrimp? Broccoli rabe? She has a distinct fondness for the latter.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:47 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Thu Aug 7, 2014, 07:57 PM - Edit history (1)

People in rural towns in the heartland are often among the poorest of the poor. The most exotic vegetable they ever see is probably parsnips. Stores there carry onions, potatoes, cabbage, winter squash, carrots and head lettuce, with other stuff in season, only.

I've never seen broccoli rabe here, and this is a big city with lots of yuppies.

Frozen veggies are actually a good deal in the off season because they were flash frozen at their prime, not picked unripe and blasted with ethylene gas to make them look ripe three months down the line and sold at a premium, off season price.

ETA: I should mention that I saw one recipe that was incredibly praise worthy, especially for mothers with hungry children, the leftover polenta fries. That one was really inspired and doesn't take a huge amount of resources to buy or prepare, cornmeal being one of the cheaper grain foods you can get. I've used fried leftover polenta mostly as a breakfast food. I'm going to have to try her idea one of these days.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
20. 1) she is still open to suggestions and recipes for the final final book and PDF
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 05:09 PM
Aug 2014

2) she didn't like the strictness of USDA books nor find it practical so...

So what are Brown's secrets to eating well on $4 a day? It's about stocking the pantry with cheap basics to build meals from: things like garlic, canned vegetables, dried beans and butter.

She also emphasizes flexibility, and avoids prescribing strict meals and methods. That means lots of options for substitutions, especially when it comes to the produce aisle, where prices can fluctuate based on season and availability.


http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/08/01/337141837/cheap-eats-cookbook-shows-how-to-eat-well-on-a-food-stamp-budget

She will give you credit in the book if you send a recipe she includes.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
27. you guys are missing the point (group reply)
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 09:47 AM
Aug 2014

Its tasty food that is cheap and easy to make... you can still have delicious food when you are poor...even the spices are cheap at the store or get a whole spice rack full of them at Wal-Mart for $15... i

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
32. Can only get broccoli rabe at Whole Foods in Phoenix
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 12:32 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Sat Aug 9, 2014, 07:20 AM - Edit history (1)

And it's expensive.

And now I want some.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
9. For us, the secret to eating cheap and well is Indian food.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:01 PM
Aug 2014

Lentil and bean based recipes. We use fresh vegetables, spinach, carrots, bell peppers, chili peppers and the like and cook dried beans. Canned vegetables are an abomination.

You do have to stock up on some unusual spices but they are cheap. Makes sense considering how poor most of India is.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
13. Dahl with naan bread
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:33 PM
Aug 2014

homemade naan bread/spinach dahl, is one of the cheapest meals ever, and it's so tasty and filling. Because it's lentil/split pea based it cooks quickly and it improves with age which makes it great for left overs. A bit carb-y though. Where I live, you can get heaps of indian spices at rock bottom prices. If I didn't have kids who only like Indian cuisine on an infrequent basis I'd eat it much more.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
18. We had a new one yesterday
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 05:07 PM
Aug 2014

Yellow dahl with spinach. Tempered with a paste made from whole coriander seeds, dried red chilies, fresh coconut and a bit of tamarind, with fried onions on top. It was very good.

We usually use pitas fort he bread because we have a place that makes them fresh and they are a little lighter than naan.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
25. That's my favorite kind
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 07:38 PM
Aug 2014

I usually use yellow split peas. It's how my uncle (of Indian heritage) taught me how to make it. He taught me how to make the naan too, except he called it Roti because he grew up in the Caribbean. I never thought of substituting pitas. I don't really care for the store bought naan around here...maybe I should try pita instead for the days I'm too lazy to make it myself.

GobBluth

(109 posts)
10. I would love this in print and would be willing to pay for it.
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:03 PM
Aug 2014

My family is fortunate, we do very well. But still, with a family of 5 my grocery trips can be shocking. We try to eat well, but my husband and I aren't cooks. We CAN cook, but I need to follow a recipe, and my husband thinks he can just make stuff willy nilly and usually ends up wasting the food!

Wish I could order this with the proceeds helping to fund the books she gives out for free!

leftstreet

(36,113 posts)
16. This reminds me of Depression Era Cookbooks
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 04:54 PM
Aug 2014

..ones I've seen in stores and online anyway

Interesting link, thanks for posting

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
29. How, exactly, is this Canadian woman
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 12:14 PM
Aug 2014

supposed to solve income inequality in the United States? And why do you think it's her responsibility to do so?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
30. I didn't believe anyone would read my post that way.
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 12:25 PM
Aug 2014

No, I don't think I'm blaming the author of a cookbook for the shambles of our economy.

It's much more likely that I'm decrying a nation that refuses to deal with the problem the book indirectly addresses.

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
33. Rec'd. There are 77 million Americans in debt collections too
Fri Aug 8, 2014, 02:02 PM
Aug 2014
http://www.urban.org/publications/413191.html

"Roughly 77 million Americans, or 35 percent of adults with a credit file, have a report of debt in collections. These adults owe an average of $5,178 (median $1,349). Debt in collections involves a nonmortgage bill—such as a credit card balance, medical or utility bill—that is more than 180 days past due and has been placed in collections. 5.3 percent of people with a credit file have a report of past due debt, indicating they are between 30 and 180 days late on a nonmortgage payment. Both debt in collections and debt past due are concentrated in the South."
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