The Nazis talked in WW2 without torture

[steve2470]

I think we all know this, right ? No need for torture if one is skilled. Torture is morally wrong !

[GeorgeGist]

1. Godwin is dead.

[steve2470]

3. yep, all hail Godwin, glad you informed me nt

[rock]

9. Well now that Godwin has been breached in this discussion

You can plainly see that Hitler is the most egregious example of inhumanity the world has ever known and therefore makes a great "bad example" for just about any argument that you can work it into. He was even worse than the turd known as W.

[LanternWaste]

6. the half-witted mind is more strongly wed to an internet meme than to history...

I hope that particular bit of bumper-sticker wisdom is indeed, dead, as it too often seems the half-witted mind is more strongly wed to an internet meme than to history...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

2. And, they claimed they did what they did because they were patriots and under a lot of pressure.

[Pholus]

4. It also is a gross strategic error in a "hearts and minds" battle.

My father, a WWII vet, said they rarely fought near the end of the war because the Germans knew if they surrendered they'd be treated decently. He even found many of his POW's had crossed across Germany to surrender to the US rather than the Soviets.

The reputation of being merciful goes a long way towards establishing a moral superiority which is required to END these conflicts in ways that won't merely reignite later.

[steve2470]

5. agreed nt

[CJCRANE]

7. Torture is a form of terror.

[zappaman]

8. yes!

[steve2470]

12. ok that pic is genius nt

[former9thward]

10. The U.S. did not have clean hands in WW II.

But we won. And in war that is all that counts.

Operation Teardrop: Eight of the surviving, captured crewmen from the sunk German submarine U-546 were tortured by U.S. military personnel. Historian Philip K. Lundeberg has written that the beating and torture of U-546's survivors was a singular atrocity motivated by the interrogators' need to quickly get information on what the U.S. believed were potential missile attacks on the continental U.S. by German submarines.

A written order from the HQ of the 328th U.S. Army Infantry Regiment, dated 21 December 1944, stated: No SS troops or paratroopers will be taken prisoner but will be shot on sight. Major-General Raymond Hufft (U.S. Army) gave instructions to his troops not to take prisoners when they crossed the Rhine in 1945. "After the war, when he reflected on the war crimes he authorized, he admitted, 'if the Germans had won, I would have been on trial at Nuremberg instead of them.'"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II

[Pholus]

11. Your list is obviously embarassing -- just like our torture at the behest of Cheney.

I can see it, your post shows you apparently can see it -- any thoughts as to why the President can't see it?