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LiberalArkie

(15,722 posts)
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 10:13 AM Aug 2014

6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of America Read more: http://www.cracked.com/artic

http://www.cracked.com/article_19864_6-ridiculous-lies-you-believe-about-founding-america.html

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When it comes to the birth of America, most of us are working from a stew of elementary school history lessons, Westerns and vague Thanksgiving mythology. And while it's not surprising those sources might biff a couple details, what's shocking is how much less interesting the version we learned was. It turns out our teachers, Hollywood and whoever we got our Thanksgiving mythology from (Big Turkey?) all made America's origin story far more boring than it actually was for some very disturbing reasons. For instance ...

#6. The Indians Weren't Defeated by White Settlers


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The Myth:

Our history books don't really go into a ton of detail about how the Indians became an endangered species. Some warring, some smallpox blankets and ... death by broken heart?



When American Indians show up in movies made by conscientious white people like Oliver Stone, they usually lament having their land taken from them. The implication is that Native Americans died off like a species of tree-burrowing owl that couldn't hack it once their natural habitat was paved over.

But if we had to put the whole Cowboys and Indians battle in a Hollywood log line, we'd say the Indians put up a good fight, but were no match for the white man's superior technology. As surely as scissors cuts paper and rock smashes scissors, gun beats arrow. That's just how it works.



Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_19864_6-ridiculous-lies-you-believe-about-founding-america.html#ixzz39WjYEGKE
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6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of America Read more: http://www.cracked.com/artic (Original Post) LiberalArkie Aug 2014 OP
Thanks spinbaby Aug 2014 #1
Thanks but ... GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #2
Howard Zinn, still very relevant, is no longer with us. hunter Aug 2014 #5
my favorite book. reflection Aug 2014 #8
Terrific book. NuclearDem Aug 2014 #9
Added to my 'long' reading list.... daleanime Aug 2014 #11
While the bit of that article that I read progressoid Aug 2014 #3
I'm amazed at how many take their news from Comedy Central. nt Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #4
didnt national inquirer break the edwards story? leftyohiolib Aug 2014 #12
And Weekly World News broke the story of Batboy. Qutzupalotl Aug 2014 #17
Many of the arguments from the Cracked article are pulled from James Loewen's Book ProfessorPlum Aug 2014 #16
Good article. Nice to see it get a wider audience than people who may heard these jtuck004 Aug 2014 #6
History is written by the winners. yallerdawg Aug 2014 #7
Oh damn you! NuclearDem Aug 2014 #10
Can I correct this correction of history? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #13
Three guys showed up in my front yard planting flags, each one arguing they "discovered" my land. tclambert Aug 2014 #15
I heard long ago that the guns the Pilgrims had didn't match bows and arrows. tclambert Aug 2014 #14

hunter

(38,322 posts)
5. Howard Zinn, still very relevant, is no longer with us.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 11:51 AM
Aug 2014

"Guns, Germs, and Steel," by Jared Diamond is a modern historical interpretation.

Most of human history is biology. The most accurate histories are ecological.

The political, economic, and other non-biological rationalizations of history are frequently bogus.

This Cracked interpretation of North American history isn't bad as an introduction to this ecological perspective. Culturally and intellectually post-Columbus European immigrants to the Americas were truly ill-equipped. It was simply the bad luck of Native Americans to be intolerant of "Old World" European, Asian, and African diseases. All other history of the Americas is incidental to that.

Five hundred years from now someone will come up with stories "explaining" the catastrophe of fossil fuel use and mass extinction event. But the truth will be that humans are biologically incapable of controlling certain impulses. We're just not that intelligent.

We will struggle to maintain this fossil fueled heavily industrialized consumer society making more and more insane sacrifices to non-existent deities until the bloody end. It seems to be our nature.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
9. Terrific book.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 12:46 PM
Aug 2014

Mandatory reading back in my high school World History class.

Collapse is also good, though it does have its problems.

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
3. While the bit of that article that I read
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 11:11 AM
Aug 2014

appears to be accurate, albeit hyperbolic, I generally don't take history lessons from Cracked.com

ProfessorPlum

(11,264 posts)
16. Many of the arguments from the Cracked article are pulled from James Loewen's Book
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 03:57 PM
Aug 2014

"Lies My Teacher Told Me", which is a great and in many places eye-opening and important read, but also, I fear, a bit hyperbolic.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
6. Good article. Nice to see it get a wider audience than people who may heard these
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 12:29 PM
Aug 2014

ideas before from more stuffy venues.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
7. History is written by the winners.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 12:40 PM
Aug 2014

You can bet everything we consider to be historical is propaganda.

Truth is in the eye of the beholder.

Facts may be inarguable, but our interpretation of how the facts come together to present a story - history - is where the spin do begin.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
13. Can I correct this correction of history? ...
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:07 PM
Aug 2014

Myth #4: Columbus Didn't Discover America: Vikings vs. Indians

Here, the author indicates (correctly) that Columbus did not "discover" America; but indicates that the Vikings did. The author seems to ignore/not know of the evidence of Africans having visited the Americas more than 500 years before the Vikings.

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/offices/comm/csj/960216/mcmen.html

http://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/current/vansertima.pdf (citation to research that requires a JSTOR.org account)

http://www.nairaland.com/1212037/africans-discovered-america-thousands-years

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
15. Three guys showed up in my front yard planting flags, each one arguing they "discovered" my land.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:25 PM
Aug 2014

I had to turn the hose on them. Crazy "discoverers."

I suppose one day space aliens will land on Earth, claim they discovered the planet, and file a deed of ownership with the Galactic authorities. And when human beings say, "Hey! we're standing right here. Can't you see we already live here?" they will say, "Oh, yeah, you guys. Uh, . . . here, have some free blankets."



(I will admit, I've never seen those Olmec sculptures before. And they do raise questions. Some look very Afican, though a few look a little Chinese to me.)


tclambert

(11,087 posts)
14. I heard long ago that the guns the Pilgrims had didn't match bows and arrows.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:10 PM
Aug 2014

Muzzle-loading blunderbusses couldn't come close to the rate of fire, range, or accuracy of bows and arrows. When you get to the 1800s, with repeating rifles and six-shooters, yeah, those could outperform bows and arrows. And cannons made a difference. But I don't think the Pilgrims had any cannons.

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