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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 03:45 PM Aug 2014

Ayan Hirsi Ali: Bibi Netanyahu deserves Nobel Peace Prize for Gaza campaign

The public intellectual and controversial atheist thinks the man waging war on Gaza is a paragon of peace

ELIAS ISQUITH


During an interview published on Friday by Israel HaYom, the Sheldon Adelson-backed Israeli daily, public intellectual and author Ayan Hirsi Ali claimed that Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for waging ongoing military campaign by the IDF against Hamas militants in Gaza.

Asked whom she admired, Ali — who once called Islam a “nihilistic cult of death” — included Netanyahu on a list featuring her husband, Harvard professor Niall Ferguson, as well as former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and Princeton professor Bernard Lewis. Ali said she admired Netanyahu “because he is under so much pressure, from so many sources, and yet he does what is best for the people of Israel, he does his duty.”

“I really think he should get the Nobel Peace Prize,” Ali added. “In a fair world he would get it.”

Ali isn’t the only prominent supporter of Israel’s war to make the provocative Nobel Peace Prize claim. Recently, the Israeli ambassador to the U.S., Ron Dermer, said the nation’s army, the Israeli Defense Forces, similarly deserved global acclaim for the “unimaginable restraint” with which its waged its attacks on Hamas.

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http://www.salon.com/2014/08/04/ayan_hirsi_ali_bibi_netanyahu_deserves_nobel_peace_prize_for_gaza_campaign/
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Ayan Hirsi Ali: Bibi Netanyahu deserves Nobel Peace Prize for Gaza campaign (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2014 OP
Bull pucks. Skidmore Aug 2014 #1
I'm sure the Nobel committee will get right on that! BillZBubb Aug 2014 #2
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #3
Wow BainsBane Aug 2014 #4
There's a PhD thesis in the weird, hateful shit she says, LeftyMom Aug 2014 #5
I would guess gaspee Aug 2014 #20
She has been shown to be a liar and opportunist. elehhhhna Aug 2014 #24
I read her gaspee Aug 2014 #25
much of her book was debunked when Holland realized she was full of baloney elehhhhna Aug 2014 #27
See, now I never knew that gaspee Aug 2014 #30
You have to go out of your way for international news elehhhhna Aug 2014 #33
She has just revealed what she is. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #6
Nuttier than a treeful of squirrels this woman is. hifiguy Aug 2014 #7
He should get a prize....preferably delivered by the ICC. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #8
They gave one to Kissinger joeybee12 Aug 2014 #9
+1 redqueen Aug 2014 #11
more like the Ignoble Piss Prize aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #10
The Onion? ..nt TeeYiYi Aug 2014 #12
so she was easily turned to fundamentalist islam and now she is easily turned into JI7 Aug 2014 #13
She was born into the Somali version of Fundamental Islam gaspee Aug 2014 #17
no, she wasn't just born into it, she turned more fundamentalist when she got older JI7 Aug 2014 #18
Yeah gaspee Aug 2014 #21
she was in kenya, raised would mean her parents raised her that way and they didn't JI7 Aug 2014 #22
Atheism's answer to Sarah Palin. GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #14
For the win, George. hifiguy Aug 2014 #16
Derp. KamaAina Aug 2014 #15
ayan hirsi ali has really lost the plot. nt La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #19
No he fairly obviously doesn't. LeftishBrit Aug 2014 #23
This woman has gone off the deep end. potone Aug 2014 #26
Salon really ought to know better than to call her an 'intellectual' muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #28
Get back to me after a few more schools BeyondGeography Aug 2014 #29
I actually used to respect her War Horse Aug 2014 #31
What an idiot Vattel Aug 2014 #32

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
2. I'm sure the Nobel committee will get right on that!
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 03:49 PM
Aug 2014

After they finish laughing, they'll go to work finding someone who actually deserves the award.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
5. There's a PhD thesis in the weird, hateful shit she says,
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 03:51 PM
Aug 2014

if anybody can ever figure out wtf drives it. :/

gaspee

(3,231 posts)
20. I would guess
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 04:39 PM
Aug 2014

Her issues stem from being born female in Somalia and everything that comes along with that. At least I think that's where he hatred of Islam comes from. Can't say I blame her - I might feel the same way if I lived the life she has, but she is too public a figure to let her issues overcome her humanity. People listen when she speaks. If you're carrying that much baggage, see a shrink so you can life a life of happiness instead of hatred - and spreading hatred.

I disagree with pretty much everything fundamentalist Islam (and all fundamentalist religions) stands for, but that doesn't mean I hate the people on a human level. I can disagree with everything she says and yet still feel empathy for her. I can be 100% against Israel's actions in Gaza and still not be on Hamas' side.

gaspee

(3,231 posts)
25. I read her
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 06:05 PM
Aug 2014

Autobiography when it first came out and haven't paid much attention to her unless she's spouting off. I didn't get the impression from her book that she was so right wing and the first time I heard some of her rhetoric I couldn't believe it was the same person.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
27. much of her book was debunked when Holland realized she was full of baloney
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 06:21 PM
Aug 2014

and emmigrated under false pretenses

gaspee

(3,231 posts)
30. See, now I never knew that
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 06:25 PM
Aug 2014

That's how much attention I paid after I read the book. This was years ago, now.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. Nuttier than a treeful of squirrels this woman is.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 03:57 PM
Aug 2014

Allegedly Kissinger hasn't been able to travel freely for years because there are many places in the world where he would be thrown in irons as a war criminal. Netanyahu is headed in the same direction.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
13. so she was easily turned to fundamentalist islam and now she is easily turned into
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 04:13 PM
Aug 2014

some anti muslim/arab ?

i know people like her . they seem easily swayed and always take the more extreme positions. i knew one guy who was a right winger and than turned into some far left type/conspiracy theorist type.

in both cases it's like they have some need to view the world in black and white and the more extreme position they take the better they are.

gaspee

(3,231 posts)
17. She was born into the Somali version of Fundamental Islam
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 04:33 PM
Aug 2014

Not a great place to be born female. Still no excuse for her. She has some issues with the culture she left, a great many of them born of first hand experience. Before she became so far right wing I read her autobiography. She's a very intelligent person, but I still think she has issues with Islam - which is to be expected, obviously. My only problem with her working through her issues is that her opinions are given a lot of consideration. So, deal with your (general your) baggage however you want, but having some pretty heavy baggage doesn't give you the right to oppress other people (on a large or small scale)

JI7

(89,250 posts)
18. no, she wasn't just born into it, she turned more fundamentalist when she got older
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 04:36 PM
Aug 2014

when she was going to school and influenced by more extremist types.

gaspee

(3,231 posts)
21. Yeah
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 04:42 PM
Aug 2014

As a teenager - that's part of BEING RAISED - and people are pretty easy to influence as teenagers. Not to mention that surviving a system of systematic oppression of women leads to a lot of women in those systems to figure out a way to survive, and to some, that means becoming them.

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
23. No he fairly obviously doesn't.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 05:31 PM
Aug 2014

And she admires Kissinger? Seriously? If there was ever anyone who devalued the Nobel Peace Prize!

potone

(1,701 posts)
26. This woman has gone off the deep end.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 06:18 PM
Aug 2014

She should look at some of the pictures that are on Twitter of the dead babies and mangled bodies of children before she makes a statement like that. Good lord, isn't what the people of Gaza have been going through enough, do they have to be subjected to this insult, too???

muriel_volestrangler

(101,319 posts)
28. Salon really ought to know better than to call her an 'intellectual'
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 06:22 PM
Aug 2014

"Public troll" might be a better description. She says things like this to annoy people. Like Ann Coulter or Rush Limbaugh.

War Horse

(931 posts)
31. I actually used to respect her
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 06:34 PM
Aug 2014

but then she got 'absorbed' by the likes of Spencer and Geller. I find the whole thing sad. I may have missed a few steps here, but that's my impression of this whole thing.

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