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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 12:11 AM Aug 2014

New Snowden Files Article: "U.S. is a Key Party to Every Israeli Attack"

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/08/04/cash-weapons-surveillance

Cash, Weapons and Surveillance: the U.S. is a Key Party to Every Israeli Attack

By Glenn Greenwald

4 Aug 2014, 12:00 AM EDT

The U.S. government has long lavished overwhelming aid on Israel, providing cash, weapons and surveillance technology that play a crucial role in Israel’s attacks on its neighbors. But top secret documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden shed substantial new light on how the U.S. and its partners directly enable Israel’s military assaults – such as the one on Gaza.

Over the last decade, the NSA has significantly increased the surveillance assistance it provides to its Israeli counterpart, the Israeli SIGINT National Unit (ISNU; also known as Unit 8200), including data used to monitor and target Palestinians. In many cases, the NSA and ISNU work cooperatively with the British and Canadian spy agencies, the GCHQ and CSEC.

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Last September, the Guardian revealed that the NSA “routinely shares raw intelligence data with Israel without first sifting it to remove information about US citizens.” The paper published the full top secret Memoranadum of Understanding between the two agencies governing that sharing. But the NSA/ISNU relationship extends far beyond that.

One newly disclosed top secret NSA document, dated April 13, 2013 and published today by the Intercept, recounts that the “NSA maintains a far-reaching technical and analytic relationship with the Israeli SIGINT National Unit (ISNU) sharing information on access, intercept, targeting, language, analysis and reporting.”

Specifically, “this SIGINT relationship has increasingly been the catalyst for a broader intelligence relationship between the United States and Israel”. Moreover, “NSA’s cyber partnerships expanded beyond ISNU to include Israeli Defense Intelligence’s [Special Operation Division] SOD and Mossad.”

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New Snowden Files Article: "U.S. is a Key Party to Every Israeli Attack" (Original Post) Hissyspit Aug 2014 OP
It is, no doubt, a two-way relationship with the US benfitting JDPriestly Aug 2014 #1
sometimes eyes blind, ears deaf riverwalker Aug 2014 #2
But not this time. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #3
Israel in not a key ally. Israel is a liability. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #4
Israel, along with China, Iran, North Korea and Russia Maedhros Aug 2014 #5
+1 Scuba Aug 2014 #10
The heart of the matter Laughing Mirror Aug 2014 #6
+1!!!!!nt newfie11 Aug 2014 #8
K&R woo me with science Aug 2014 #7
What is driving the rabid support of Israel policies by the U.S. Government? ladjf Aug 2014 #9
. Hissyspit Aug 2014 #11
K & R malaise Aug 2014 #12
K&R! countryjake Aug 2014 #13
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #14

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. It is, no doubt, a two-way relationship with the US benfitting
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 12:51 AM
Aug 2014

as much as Israel from the intelligence.

I do not disapprove of intelligence used to obtain information on terrorists. Seems to me that if Israel helps us track terrorists, this is a legitimate program.

I object to the use of surveillance on ordinary people who pose no threat to anyone and on our allies.

I especially object to programs that violate our Fourth Amendment or that find a way to cooperate with other countries that circumvents our Fourth Amendment.

I don't find it shocking that we share intelligence methods, technology and information with Israel because Israel is one of our key allies in the world. It is our most trusted ally in the Middle East. Even Turkey, which is a NATO member, is probably not as helpful in tracking terrorists as Israel is.

Remember, geographically, Israel is close to Africa as well as to all the Middle Eastern countries. It is our eyes and ears there.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
3. But not this time.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 01:05 AM
Aug 2014

I'm sure they wanted us to go into Iran.

Still, the intelligence is, I am equally certain, important to us.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
4. Israel in not a key ally. Israel is a liability.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 01:29 AM
Aug 2014

We have our own security apparatus and we shouldn't be relying on information from a country with a history of misleading us.

Much of our terrorism problem stems from our support of Israel's illegal occupation of the West Bank and Israel's barbaric treatment of the Palestinians.

We give Israel money, we give them weapons, we give them diplomatic cover. They give us warning not to second guess them. Some ally.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
5. Israel, along with China, Iran, North Korea and Russia
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 01:48 AM
Aug 2014

have been identified by the FBI as the top cyber-espionage threats against the United States.

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
6. The heart of the matter
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 02:34 AM
Aug 2014

"Israeli aggression would be impossible without the constant, lavish support and protection of the U.S. government ..."

Until this changes, nothing will.

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