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noise

(2,392 posts)
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:34 PM Aug 2014

Greenwald's book With Liberty and Justice for Some explains the torture mess

High level officials (i.e. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Tenet, etc.) ordered an absurd program to be implemented. It sure looks like the real intention was a "tough on terror" PR effort which would distract from 9/11 cover-ups and ulterior agendas (i.e. war profiteering). In the US we are told that there is no such thing as high level corruption because our leaders ALWAYS act in good faith. To the point that outright criminality is spun as an attempt to criminalize policy disagreements. So the culpability argument is shifted to the people following the corrupt orders. The high level officials then talk of how unfair it is to pick on dedicated CIA agents who were only concerned with protecting the country. Basically the high level officials hide behind the people they ordered to torture. Sort of like when high level Bush officials implemented a sinister invasion/occupation policy of Iraq and then hid behind soldiers to avoid criticism.

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Greenwald's book With Liberty and Justice for Some explains the torture mess (Original Post) noise Aug 2014 OP
Our government is beyond corrupt newfie11 Aug 2014 #1
Another thread in GD pushing Greenwald's book? Why? nt msanthrope Aug 2014 #2
Because it's a book worth reading nt noise Aug 2014 #3
Good answer. H2O Man Aug 2014 #4
A book written by a Wall Street Lawyer who kept a Neo-nazi as his litigation pet? msanthrope Aug 2014 #5
I doubt that would be germane to a work devoted to contemporary torture practices by Americans. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #9
The wars on Iraq and Afghanistan were both "tough on terror" PR wars. We lost. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #6
Greenwald. LOL...nt SidDithers Aug 2014 #7
Sounds about right. nt bemildred Aug 2014 #8

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
1. Our government is beyond corrupt
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 08:10 AM
Aug 2014

As long as the politicians are paid off by war profiting corporations nothing will change.

Hell The CIA is a war profiting corporation!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
5. A book written by a Wall Street Lawyer who kept a Neo-nazi as his litigation pet?
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 04:35 PM
Aug 2014

Does he include a section on the time the Center for Constitutional Rights kicked his ass up and down an Illinois courtroom?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. I doubt that would be germane to a work devoted to contemporary torture practices by Americans.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 04:43 PM
Aug 2014

"...section on the time the Center for Constitutional Rights kicked his ass up and down an Illinois courtroom?"
I doubt that would be germane to a work devoted to contemporary torture practices by Americans.

Ohhh.... I see-- you just wanted to appear clever and make a dig at the author, regardless of how irrelevant the dig is. Cool. My mistake. Too often I fail to account for petulance when reading a post-- I will though, make a mnemonic point to ensure I engage your name with that from now on.

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