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jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:07 PM Aug 2014

Cliven Bundy claims the Lord told him to fight a civil war against the feds

Bundy, a Mormon, told an Independent American Party gathering in St. George, Utah, on Saturday that God provided him personal inspiration in the showdown over cattle in Bunkerville, Nevada, about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

"The Lord told me ... if (the local sheriff doesn't) take away these arms from federal agents, we the people will have to face these arms in a civil war. He said, 'This is your chance to straighten this thing up,'" Bundy said, according to The Spectrum of St. George (http://bit.ly/1pRx8nq ).


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/03/cliven-bundy-iap-god-civil-war-_n_5646121.html
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Cliven Bundy claims the Lord told him to fight a civil war against the feds (Original Post) jmowreader Aug 2014 OP
Is that the same lord who told him to leave the Republican party? SummerSnow Aug 2014 #1
godgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgodgod blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #2
Brother Buzz told Clive Bundy to stop ingesting Jimson weed Brother Buzz Aug 2014 #3
this is growing in my back yard.. loco weed Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #30
Yes, and Brother Buzz says enjoy the exquisite flowers but don't mess with the seeds Brother Buzz Aug 2014 #34
I think he must have heard Lucifer speaking to him. Bundy has lost his way, I don't Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #4
Too bad libodem Aug 2014 #5
I think he's senile. nt HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #31
That could be it libodem Aug 2014 #32
In the real world... silverweb Aug 2014 #6
But you have to ask for it... freshwest Aug 2014 #22
Unless you're a danger to self or others. silverweb Aug 2014 #25
God told me Cliven Bundy is rebelling against what God has instituted Terra Alta Aug 2014 #7
The difference between Cliven Bundy and a terrorist is... nothing. The US whereisjustice Aug 2014 #8
Sure took his sweet time to get around to the Lord. Rex Aug 2014 #9
God told me Cliven Bundy is an idiot. Brigid Aug 2014 #10
"Obviously ...God can't be trusted." yortsed snacilbuper Aug 2014 #11
Bundy sure makes Mormons look bad. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #12
they make their own rules, like "blood atonement" for example KurtNYC Aug 2014 #29
I wonder how many of the Bundy supporters ever actually served in the military? nt kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #13
to be fair his lord has protected him against being held accountable by the evil government nt msongs Aug 2014 #14
G-d also told Bundy about how to deal with non-whites Gothmog Aug 2014 #15
Enough of this extremist Dwayne Hicks Aug 2014 #16
Dog told me Cliven Bundy is an asshole. mysuzuki2 Aug 2014 #17
Bundy Is In Insurrection Against the United States Wolf Frankula Aug 2014 #18
He's no Jake nor Elwood TransitJohn Aug 2014 #19
I guess Bundy never read Mark 12:17 sakabatou Aug 2014 #20
The Lord was just fucking with you, Cliven Tom Ripley Aug 2014 #21
God talks to Bundy now? Why am I in this handbasket and where are we going? freshwest Aug 2014 #23
Did the "lord" tell him to be a racist prick, too? Cha Aug 2014 #24
He should get that in writing. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2014 #26
religion LOL n/t KG Aug 2014 #27
....He's probably right. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #28
Mormons are really into revelations direct from God. leftyladyfrommo Aug 2014 #33
Senile old goat. jwirr Aug 2014 #35
Old School Mormonism... Blue Idaho Aug 2014 #36
Why do crazy people always claim they're doing God's work? Initech Aug 2014 #37
Has anybody ever noticed, abakan Aug 2014 #38

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
34. Yes, and Brother Buzz says enjoy the exquisite flowers but don't mess with the seeds
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 11:15 AM
Aug 2014

I occasionally pick a young blossom just so I can watch it open up to its full glory in the home.



Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. I think he must have heard Lucifer speaking to him. Bundy has lost his way, I don't
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:17 PM
Aug 2014

Think he was instructed to steal from God. He needs to creep back into his corner. RWers bitch about open borders but Bundy is stealing.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
5. Too bad
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:27 PM
Aug 2014

Most of the State Hospitals have closed in the nation. He needs a 72 hour hold and a psych eval. Poor fuck is mentally ill. I won't mock him too much. He is a sick individual. Dangerous. Armed. And sick. I hope they can catch him and get him some help. I hate the Ruby Ridge/Waco insanity almost more than I hate to see a person detached from reality running the range. Poor fuck.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
32. That could be it
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 10:19 AM
Aug 2014

That can be dangerous, too. I was exposed to a little of that white supremacy literature in the 90's. They have an underground of horrible newsletters and opinions pieces.
Northern Idaho and some places in Washington are full of it. They really are haters with an agenda. I literally had a nightmares from just being exposed to that kind of crazy writing.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
6. In the real world...
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:27 PM
Aug 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]...that's called having "auditory hallucinations" and there's treatment available.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
25. Unless you're a danger to self or others.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 05:04 AM
Aug 2014

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I'd say ol' Cliven qualifies there.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
7. God told me Cliven Bundy is rebelling against what God has instituted
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:34 PM
Aug 2014

and must be punished.

"So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished." Romans 13:2

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
8. The difference between Cliven Bundy and a terrorist is... nothing. The US
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 10:48 PM
Aug 2014

has a right to defend itself against terror using maximum force. According to the new rules of war, Mr. Bundy, his family, neighbors, associates, the county and municipal government that allows him to stay are all legitimate military targets.

We should spare nothing in our own self-defense.

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)
15. G-d also told Bundy about how to deal with non-whites
Sun Aug 3, 2014, 11:07 PM
Aug 2014

The sovereign citizen movement is full of nut cases

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
18. Bundy Is In Insurrection Against the United States
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 12:00 AM
Aug 2014

1th. When he leaves his compound, why hasn't he been arrested?

2th. The way to deal with insurrection is the following. All law enforcement personnel withdraw. The regular armed forces of the United States surround his yuck hole. Armed forces should be equipped for desert operations, with armored fighting vehicles, artillery and air support. All utilities from the outside are cut off. All communications with the outside are cut off. An officer goes in with a flag of truce. He informs the insurrectionists that they are to come out with their hands up, unarmed, and they will receive decent treatment. If they do not, "Then we will come in. We will not come in behind pepper spray and tear gas, we will come in behind artillery barrages and air strike."

If Bundy does not surrender, the military goes in. Anyone with a gun in their hand is taken as an insurrectionist, tried for sedition and hanged if convicted. Anyone attempting to aid them is put down by force, tried and hanged. The authority of the US government is at stake. If a yuck like Bundy is allowed to do it, others will try.

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force." George Washington.

Wolf

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
19. He's no Jake nor Elwood
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 12:12 AM
Aug 2014

Fuck you, Cliven. Don't even compare yourself with the coolness of fictional characters that I like.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
28. ....He's probably right.
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 07:10 AM
Aug 2014

The LORD, being omnipotent and knowing everything, is understandably short of entertainment.

The LORD probably enjoys watching racist goober Bundy mount some quixotic, idiotic, utterly mindless crusade against the federal government for the same reasons that I CAN'T STOP WATCHING TRUCKS CRASH INTO THIS LOW-ASS BRIDGE

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
36. Old School Mormonism...
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 12:17 PM
Aug 2014

The history of that cult is the story of bunch to true believers who left the United States and created their own sovereign nation - Deseret - in what was the Utah Territory. They had their own money, their own language, and their own army - the Navoo Militia. The early years in Utah (1850s) were filled with numerous skirmishes with US troops and the notorious Mountain Medows Massacre where 120 settlers, men women and children, traveling through area were slaughtered and buried by the Mormons.

My point? Raised in "the faith" Cliven is well aware of the heroic tales of Gods Soldiers. He is no doubt some daffy old fuck but it's important to understand the context. His actions are informed by the early years of the "saints" in the "promised land."

abakan

(1,819 posts)
38. Has anybody ever noticed,
Mon Aug 4, 2014, 04:17 PM
Aug 2014

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God gets dumber and dumber? I think he's having fun telling these folk to do these things.

1. Have a civil war with the FBI? Just the FBI? * are they their own country?*
2. Tell, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, to all run in the same year? *the dems thank you*
3. More people God told to run, Ronald Reagan, Pat Robertson, George W. Bush, Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, Tim Pawlenty, Rick Santorum, and the three listed above.

I wonder why the big guy doesn't talk to Democrats.

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