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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCliven Bundy claims the Lord told him to fight a civil war against the feds
"The Lord told me ... if (the local sheriff doesn't) take away these arms from federal agents, we the people will have to face these arms in a civil war. He said, 'This is your chance to straighten this thing up,'" Bundy said, according to The Spectrum of St. George (http://bit.ly/1pRx8nq ).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/03/cliven-bundy-iap-god-civil-war-_n_5646121.html
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,440 posts)I occasionally pick a young blossom just so I can watch it open up to its full glory in the home.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Think he was instructed to steal from God. He needs to creep back into his corner. RWers bitch about open borders but Bundy is stealing.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Most of the State Hospitals have closed in the nation. He needs a 72 hour hold and a psych eval. Poor fuck is mentally ill. I won't mock him too much. He is a sick individual. Dangerous. Armed. And sick. I hope they can catch him and get him some help. I hate the Ruby Ridge/Waco insanity almost more than I hate to see a person detached from reality running the range. Poor fuck.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)libodem
(19,288 posts)That can be dangerous, too. I was exposed to a little of that white supremacy literature in the 90's. They have an underground of horrible newsletters and opinions pieces.
Northern Idaho and some places in Washington are full of it. They really are haters with an agenda. I literally had a nightmares from just being exposed to that kind of crazy writing.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]...that's called having "auditory hallucinations" and there's treatment available.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I'd say ol' Cliven qualifies there.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)and must be punished.
"So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished." Romans 13:2
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)has a right to defend itself against terror using maximum force. According to the new rules of war, Mr. Bundy, his family, neighbors, associates, the county and municipal government that allows him to stay are all legitimate military targets.
We should spare nothing in our own self-defense.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)msongs
(67,413 posts)Gothmog
(145,291 posts)The sovereign citizen movement is full of nut cases
Dwayne Hicks
(637 posts)Where are the arrests for Bundy and his terrorist buddies?
mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)Wolf Frankula
(3,601 posts)1th. When he leaves his compound, why hasn't he been arrested?
2th. The way to deal with insurrection is the following. All law enforcement personnel withdraw. The regular armed forces of the United States surround his yuck hole. Armed forces should be equipped for desert operations, with armored fighting vehicles, artillery and air support. All utilities from the outside are cut off. All communications with the outside are cut off. An officer goes in with a flag of truce. He informs the insurrectionists that they are to come out with their hands up, unarmed, and they will receive decent treatment. If they do not, "Then we will come in. We will not come in behind pepper spray and tear gas, we will come in behind artillery barrages and air strike."
If Bundy does not surrender, the military goes in. Anyone with a gun in their hand is taken as an insurrectionist, tried for sedition and hanged if convicted. Anyone attempting to aid them is put down by force, tried and hanged. The authority of the US government is at stake. If a yuck like Bundy is allowed to do it, others will try.
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force." George Washington.
Wolf
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)Fuck you, Cliven. Don't even compare yourself with the coolness of fictional characters that I like.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)KG
(28,751 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)The LORD, being omnipotent and knowing everything, is understandably short of entertainment.
The LORD probably enjoys watching racist goober Bundy mount some quixotic, idiotic, utterly mindless crusade against the federal government for the same reasons that I CAN'T STOP WATCHING TRUCKS CRASH INTO THIS LOW-ASS BRIDGE
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Ole Brigham had them all the time.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)The history of that cult is the story of bunch to true believers who left the United States and created their own sovereign nation - Deseret - in what was the Utah Territory. They had their own money, their own language, and their own army - the Navoo Militia. The early years in Utah (1850s) were filled with numerous skirmishes with US troops and the notorious Mountain Medows Massacre where 120 settlers, men women and children, traveling through area were slaughtered and buried by the Mormons.
My point? Raised in "the faith" Cliven is well aware of the heroic tales of Gods Soldiers. He is no doubt some daffy old fuck but it's important to understand the context. His actions are informed by the early years of the "saints" in the "promised land."
Initech
(100,079 posts)abakan
(1,819 posts)Last edited Mon Aug 4, 2014, 06:43 PM - Edit history (1)
God gets dumber and dumber? I think he's having fun telling these folk to do these things.
1. Have a civil war with the FBI? Just the FBI? * are they their own country?*
2. Tell, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, to all run in the same year? *the dems thank you*
3. More people God told to run, Ronald Reagan, Pat Robertson, George W. Bush, Sarah Palin, Mike Huckabee, Tim Pawlenty, Rick Santorum, and the three listed above.
I wonder why the big guy doesn't talk to Democrats.