Texas Man Calling For Boycott Of Israel

[Faux pas]

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[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. Thank goodness it wasn't Florida Man, or

I'd have had to dismiss him out of hand

[tritsofme]

2. lol, well that settles it

[COLGATE4]

3. Yep. Let's shut down the discussion boards

on the subject. Texas Man has spoken.

[Fred Sanders]

5. Let us mock anyone not towing the line......shoot the messenger, quick!

[COLGATE4]

7. They could probably do better than using

a Bush look-alike to lecture us. Texas wisdom - YEE HAW.

[Fred Sanders]

8. My comment, proven.

[COLGATE4]

11. What a novelty that someone considers the

source before being convinced by the 'argument'. Who the hell is this guy and why on earth should I be concerned about his 'opinions' on the subject? What conceivable experience/background/knowledge does he possess on the topic that makes him worth listening to?
This is like something the scene from Blazing Saddles describing the "the common man, the clay of the old west... you know- Morons".

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

19. I assume he's being noticed because he IS a common man ... i.e. a moron

Of the common men, the clay of the old west (particularly the bible belt fundies) morons ... most of them have been knee jerk supporters of Israel. Now we see a moron who isn't. That I guess is the novelty.

[COLGATE4]

20. That's really very good! Thanks. nt

[Kingofalldems]

9. He's speaking his mind. Too bad you won't address his concerns

and just attack him.

[COLGATE4]

13. Please refer to my Post #8, your Majesty. nt

[Kingofalldems]

17. Well, so you choose to mock my user name rather than respond.

And Post #8 is not yours.

[COLGATE4]

21. Apologies. It's post 11. To find it you just

go down from #8...

[Fred Sanders]

4. Brave man to swim against the tsunami of propaganda flotsam and jetsom.

[IronGate]

12. Brave man?

[bigdarryl]

6. Finally someone willing to speakup I agree with him

[IronGate]

10. Yeah, I'm going to drop everything and run right out do what he says to do.

Fuck him, I'll never join any boycott of Israel.

[COLGATE4]

14. I'd rather think about

boycotting Texas...

[IronGate]

15. +1000.

Although, I doubt that the majority of Texans support a boycott of Israel.

[COLGATE4]

16. Agreed.

[ClarkeVII]

18. All I see are...

personal attacks against "Texas Man."

How about addressing his concerns about settlements instead?

[Fred Sanders]

22. Ad hominem attack, the propagandists best defence against truth.

"Argumentum ad hominem (argument directed at the person). This is the error of attacking the character or motives of a person who has stated an idea, rather than the idea itself. The most obvious example of this fallacy is when one debater maligns the character of another debater (e.g, "The members of the opposition are a couple of fascists!&quot , but this is actually not that common. A more typical manifestation of argumentum ad hominem is attacking a source of information -- for example, responding to a quotation from Richard Nixon on the subject of free trade with China by saying, "We all know Nixon was a liar and a cheat, so why should we believe anything he says?" Argumentum ad hominem also occurs when someone's arguments are discounted merely because they stand to benefit from the policy they advocate -- such as Bill Gates arguing against antitrust, rich people arguing for lower taxes, white people arguing against affirmative action, minorities arguing for affirmative action, etc. In all of these cases, the relevant question is not who makes the argument, but whether the argument is valid.

It is always bad form to use the fallacy of argumentum ad hominem. But there are some cases when it is not really a fallacy, such as when one needs to evaluate the truth of factual statements (as opposed to lines of argument or statements of value) made by interested parties. If someone has an incentive to lie about something, then it would be naive to accept his statements about that subject without question. It is also possible to restate many ad hominem arguments so as to redirect them toward ideas rather than people, such as by replacing "My opponents are fascists" with "My opponents' arguments are fascist."

[COLGATE4]

23. Why should I address HIS concerns? Tell me that

he's someone with some relevant experience or knowledge on the very complicated subject of the Middle East and Israeli-Palestinian relations in particular and I might be very interested in hearing what he has to say. But to simply put this video out as somehow being worthy of consideration "because" fails to convince me.

[ClarkeVII]

25. No you don't need to...

but you don't also have to judge the guy by calling him "a bush-look alike." It's just some guy putting up a video on YouTube. If you have a beef with one of his idea address it but name calling is lame.

[COLGATE4]

26. I did just that in a couple of later posts. nt

[mr blur]

29. Why should we consider YOUR point of view? Tell me that

you're someone with some relevant experience or knowledge on the very complicated subject of the Middle East and Israeli-Palestinian relations in particular and I might be very interested in hearing what you have to say. But to simply post "I'd rather think about boycotting Texas..." as somehow being worthy of consideration because you think you're smart and witty fails to convince me.

[COLGATE4]

34. Feel free to not consider it then.

[Scootaloo]

30. Same way you post here thinking anyone should care what you say about anything

[COLGATE4]

35. I think the same thing could be said about all of us on DU.

[PFunk]

24. Direct, clear spoken and on point message wise

(the last texan that spoke that way was Ms Richards)

I think you'll be seeing a lot of folks coming to his way of thinking about this (if they're not already).

[BillZBubb]

27. The Israeli apologists will attack this man. But he is correct and persuasive.

The settlements are the proof positive that everything Israel says about "peace" is pure propaganda. Israel wants the land and will do whatever they can to keep it.

[IronGate]

31. And the Hamas apologists will put this guy on a pedestal and claim he's

right and persuasive.
Ooops, that's already happened.

[BillZBubb]

36. Still flinging the baloney, Irongate!

Anyone who points out Israel's crimes must be an anti-Semite or a Hamas fan! That's real deep thinking.

You know somewhere in your head that what Israel is doing is wrong and immoral. You just have to find rationalizations to keep it from getting to the surface. It must be sad having to check your morals at the door each day.

[DLnyc]

28. Great post

Despite the mocking here, this guy makes his points very clearly and logically. And he is right, boycotting Israel and their products is going to be more effective than whining about the inability of our politicians to stand up to Israel's and America's war machines.

+1000 from me, and I will work harder to spread the boycott. As well as encourage divestment by organizations.

http://www.sott.net/article/282924-What-can-you-do-to-protect-the-people-of-Gaza-Boycott-Israel

http://www.bdsmovement.net/

http://www.bdsmovement.net/get-involved

Note to the interested: try to get your doctors not to buy or prescribe Israeli drugs and medical supplies! I think the high-tech (and high-price) industries are an achilles heel for Israel.

And thank you to all the mockers and distracters in this thread for inspiring me to work harder to actually do something!!!

[IronGate]

32. And I will work just as hard to defeat any boycott of Israel and it's products. nt.

[TheKentuckian]

33. A good way of countering a boycott is maybe not to buy the assailed product

but to let the company maintain stock and workload and just providing cash directly without compensation and of course there is always the purchasing of stock.

Still, just straight cash to the company without any of its energy and resources exhausted seems like a way to offset several non purchases and perhaps a great many depending on their model and profit margin. A straight ten bucks may represent all kinds of meals served, who knows what effort is used to bring ten bucks back to corporate.

Maybe it is somehow illegal for a for profit entity to take cash from the public without an exchange of goods and services but I've never heard of anything but if not, small "expressions of gratitude and support" would seem to cut off most boycotts at the knees if it was even somewhat of a broad response, make sure they know why on the memo. This might be a good way to reward good business practices and really bolster companies that practice them.