WTF!?! Trayvon Murder Eyewitness Says Police Refused to See Crime Scene

[kpete]

Last night an eyewitness to the Trayvon Martin killing appeared on CNN and unleashed more damning evidence against the police. Speaking to Ashleigh Banfield, the face-obscured witness said that when the cops brought her in for questioning, she offered to show them the scene of the crime and explain exactly what happened—she saw the "larger man" attacking "the boy"—the police declined her offer. Not only that, but they suggested that she was wrong: that Zimmerman was the one calling for help, not Martin.
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http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/878129/trayvon_murder_eyewitness_says_police_refused_to_see_crime_scene/
VIDEO:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trayvon-killing-eyewitness-on-cnn-i-offered-to-show-police-scene-of-the-crime-they-declined/

[grasswire]

1. and Zimmerman's lawyers have not met with him.

Unusual to say the least.

[madokie]

2. Can you imagine the monster they are creating

this dick gets by with this and it'll be war on blacks for him until someone beats him to the draw, Zpunks life won't end very nicely I'd about take bets on that.
I really wouldn't want to be like him.

[malaise]

3. They're telling you what you saw now

This is psychological warfare

[madokie]

38. Exactly

We know better but if they can repeat themselves enough times to some it will stick but many of us are not going to let any of this bs stick. Some people are weak physically some are weak mentally and that is the ones targeted mostly, the weak minded

[tavalon]

20. Actually, if the police don't start acting right,

and get this man arrested and arraigned so that a (how the hell, are they going to do this?) fair trial can be had for Mr. Zimmerman, someone, not me, but someone is going to kill this guy. I prefer the "justice" system to vigilantes. If, as it looks, Zimmerman was playing vigilante then he'd best hope he gets a trial before he reaps what he sowed.

[obxhead]

24. My bet is it will go the other way.

They arrest Zimmerman and suddenly there will be a rash of "stand your ground" murders in Sanford.

[Gore1FL]

29. I don't follow your logic.

It seems like that would be more likely if they could actually get away with it.

[obxhead]

30. I simply think that the Treyvon supporters are mostly non violent.

The people that will be brought to violence over this will likely be extremest white people. Just look at the "Neo Nazi's" already patrolling the streets down there for an example.

The people that support Treyvon and his family are doing so only wishing for justice, not vengeance at this point.

[JDPriestly]

39. All we can wish for is justice because we don't really know

what happened.

Zimmerman's version cannot be trusted because he could not even admit to himself if he killed wrongly.

While we can't know what the outcome of a trial might be or what all of the evidence would show, we do know that Zimmerman forever silenced Trayvon Martin.

We need a trial so that the evidence can be presented publicly, and a jury can determine whether Zimmerman should be convicted or not.

[tavalon]

41. Been to Sanford

I'm not going to disagree.

[obxhead]

48. It's not a Sanford thing.

It's a US thing.

White privilege is still alive and well country wide.

One day it will change, but I don't expect it in my lifetime.

[vaberella]

54. He might last a week. I give him a week.

Most of the police in the facilities will protect him for a short period of time. Then he's sent to the wolves---and they will NEVER find his murderer.

[K Gardner]

4. I'm just now seeing this in rerun on CNN. Sheesh. n/t

[CatWoman]

5. this is devastating to the defense

[indepat]

8. May DOJ have a field day rounding up and skewering all those who have obstructed justice in this

travesty.

[Spazito]

6. The witness comes across as very credible, imo...

She does not speculate even when prompted to by some questions. She sticks to what she saw and heard that night, both the shooting and the police visit to her home.

With the investigator correcting her as to who was shouting for help, saying it was Zimmerman shouting for help, it certainly seems there was already a lack of neutrality in their minds as to what happened, that they had already decided to accept Zimmerman's account at that time at least.

I certainly hope the Federal agents who are now on scene investigating this have or will be speaking with this witness very soon.

[pacalo]

33. With the investigator *correcting* the eye/ear witness about what she heard, that sounds

like witness tampering. The investigator wasn't there; he's taking Zimmerman's word for it.

[Zax2me]

7. What a crock. The crime scene was taped off.

BTW, when did all these new eye witnesses surface?!
Ridiculous.
And pathetic, knowing that someone was murdered.

[pinboy3niner]

9. She's not a "new" witness--she was one of the original 911 callers

She had been interviewed by CNN before (this was her second interview).

[LisaL]

11. In the 911 calls released, I don't recall a single witness claiming a "larger man was

attacking the boy."

[Spazito]

13. Only the words "larger man" and the words "the boy" are in quotes, the word attacking are not...

the witness did not say "the larger man was attacking the boy" at all.

The video is well worth watching, it's on the mediate link.

[vaberella]

55. Not in those words.

But one of them clearly said I saw one guy on top of the other person. I think she went out of her house when the cops came to explain and made the clarification to them. Actually 2 witnesses said something similar but one said the lighting was bad and didn't see to clearly---but did see one on top of the other.

[Spazito]

10. You didn't watch the video I gather...

what a crock is right, your post that is.

[EFerrari]

16. Keep digging. There must be gold down there somewhere. nt

[cr8tvlde]

18. The police report had information on SIX witnesses

... information redacted, to be sure, but other than the names and addresses and personal data, they were filed in the report at the time.

Six witnesses...it should take at least an iota of intelligence to think that rushing to the media...remember they are all neighbors...they would be considered "looking for their 15 minutes of fame" at best, and harassed, at worst. News network interviews are not required of witnesses to a crime, Duh.

Of course the father and attorney interviews ... non witnesses, hearsay, and clearly prejudiced ... have gone on and on and on.

Now all mostly the news just report the drama about NBC doing what news organizations due...slant the news. What a shock.

This is cold-blooded murder...plain and simple. It was the State Attorney, another non-witness and through hearsay and probable personal relationship with the Judge father, who refused the police report and determined that a crime had NOT been committed.

Pathetic, knowing that someone was murdered.

[yardwork]

21. How do you know that the crime scene was taped off. Do you have a photo?

I've read about this witness's story from the very beginning. It's been very consistent. They said that they saw Zimmerman on top and the boy screaming for help, and the police "corrected" their statement.

This is old news. Maybe you're just hearing it for the first time.

[CatWoman]

34. Zimmerman Groupie that one

[DevonRex]

28. IMO it extends from his car, where he began to stalk

his prey, Trayvon.

[Rex]

12. Just more evidence that the PD needs a review of the entire

staff. From the ground up. I cannot believe the cops were so blatant, makes me wonder what other murders they have covered up over the years and what other PDs do this for their 'friends'.

The only good things coming out of this hopefully are jail time and some unemployed former cops. Maybe jail time for them too.

CONGRATULATIONS Sanford PD! Covering up a murder is being an accomplice to said murder. WAY TO GO!

[dtom67]

14. " Prick Us, do we not bleed ? Wrong Us,.......

If it is legal to shoot and kill a child because a man feels threatened, does it not follow that the child's friends and family could feel threatened by the Man? Does this not mean that Vengeance is now the prerogative of the individual and not the State? If the child's father Kicks the living shit outta Zimm, is he guilty of a crime? The way to stop this " Law" is to force people to see that this law can go both ways. From here on out, it seems that it will be legal for black youths who feel threatened to shoot white people. The law would change in an instant if the roles were reversed.

[dtom67]

15. to clairify.....

BTW, I am a white middle-class gun owner.However, I have no desire to shoot anyone. I would, if I had to, but I don't want to. And,yes, I believe this scumbag should go to prison for murder.

[Cooley Hurd]

17. Welcome to DU - very good post!

[mainstreetonce]

19. Very well put

What if everyone who felt threatened simply shot to kill?

That law has to be amended.

[Bette Noir]

22. I feel threatened by the LAPD.

'Nuff said.

[saras]

25. I'm 1500 miles away and I feel threatened by the LAPD. I want unmanned drones.

[DocMac]

26. Welcome to DU! nt

[Lochloosa]

31. Well Put...

Welcome to DU

[CAPHAVOC]

23. She must have seen the shot fired if this is correct.

[cr8tvlde]

37. Seems she heard it but could only describe the struggle based on size...

as she described the screams which she thought were from the boy, and who was on bottom and who was on top and the struggle. She could not see faces for positive identification. She held up her phone to the window for the 911 dispatcher in case they could hear. Then she heard a pop...had never heard gunfire but supposed it to be a shot, and the big guy on top got up and wandered around a bit. So she witnessed the final struggle, the noises, Mr. Martin alive, then dead, but did not see a gun as it was too dark. But apparently he was holding Mr. Martin down on the ground prior to the shooting.

[CAPHAVOC]

40. Eyewitness testimony

is unreliable. Very unreliable. Many times eyewitnesses contradict themselves. Two people see the same thing totally differently.

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. Well that cinches it.

SPD is not incompetent, they just do not care to solve inconvenient crimes.

As I said from the begining, they are defending a power structure, a white power structure.

[Junkdrawer]

32. Do we know who the resident with the flashlight is?

Seems important, but I don't remember it being in the police report.

[Cali_Democrat]

35. So the SPD corrected this witness and claimed it was Zimmerman crying for help

Assholes. Why are police correcting witnesses? This is so ridiculous.

The FBI needs to investigate.

[ZombieHorde]

36. Very interesting. nt

[sendero]

42. This whole case..

... turns on who was screaming for help. As soon as that is established, and I fully believe that it can scientifically be determined from the 911 recording, then we are getting somewhere.

[rucky]

45. It's established.

The same voice experts who determined Zimmerman said "punk" (not "coon&quot also determined the screams were from Trayvon.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/04/02/149833051/trayvon-martin-case-voice-calling-for-help-isnt-zimmermans-experts-say

[sendero]

47. ZM's story.

.... is therefore discredited as complete bullshit.

[90-percent]

43. My sketchy observations

Zimmerman's daddy is a former or current Judge.

I think he's well connected, perhaps to the BFEE? (Via a possible relationship with Jeb back when he was Gov?)

Therefore, the impression I get is those mysterious POWERS-THAT-BE are pulling all the strings and calling in all the favors they got to make sure the authorities don't do anything to prosecute Zimmerman for any serious crime.

Is this not simply RUNNING OUT THE CLOCK, so as to take advantage of laws in Florida that say that if you aren't charged with a crime within six months, then, you can never be charged for that crime?

If no police or Justice Department or FBI action takes place, eventually this guy will enjoy his magnificent BFEE supplied get out of jail free for murder card?

Hey, if our President enjoys a License to kill, as he currently does, why shouldn't a low level BFEE minion enjoy the same perks from being a member of the elite?

This is two tiered American Justice at it's finest!

-90% Jimmy

[freshwest]

44. They can't testify to what they didn't want to see, can they? The know-nothings strike again.

[spicegal]

46. The Sanford PD screwed this up so royally from the beginning, they haven't done

Zimmerman any big favors. He's being tried in the media and turned into a villain. The whole thing snow balled out of control. Anyone with half a brain can see that justice was NOT done or proper protocols followed. This is another Emmet Till moment. What worries me is that Zimmerman will get off on a technicality or by claiming he can't get a fair trial. The Sanford PD should be under investigation, if it's not already. Why is this taking so long?

[GP6971]

49. Something I have not heard discussed

Was Zimmerman a resident of the gated community????

[NOLALady]

50. Yes.

It seems they lived on opposite ends of the complex.

[GP6971]

51. Thanks !!! n/t

[Gregorian]

52. Dear America, how many are in your jails who do not belong there? And vice versa?

Politics in justice is not blind justice. Which is no justice at all.

I thought you were better than this. Are we not better than Pinochet? Than Pol Pot?

Now I reflect on Mumia. Leonard Peltier. And how many many more who languish and suffer, and very well may be innocent. Not to mention those who are running around free in lieu of those who pay their price.

[ecstatic]

53. I think the police department gave zimmerman the idea

to claim the screaming voice as his own.

Something along the lines of, "we heard your screams on the 911 call.."

Z: "screams? Oh.. yeah... the screams... yeah, that was me!"

Of course, that lie has been exposed to everyone who is not racist or has common sense.