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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:12 PM Jul 2014

It's no secret that Democrats have a turnout problem. It's bad.

When conservatives don't get what they want, they tend to double down at the ballot box. When progressives don't get what they want, many of us tend to storm away and fantasize about engaging the system outside of electoral politics somehow. This is part of why conservatives have been successful in moving the country to right



The study, from the Center for the Study of the American Electorate, shows turnout in the 25 states that have held statewide primaries for both parties is down by nearly one-fifth from the last midterm, in 2010. While 18.3 percent of eligible voters cast ballots back then, it has been just 14.8 percent so far this year. Similarly, 15 of the 25 states that have held statewide primaries so far have recorded record-low turnout.

Ouch.

This is all the more depressing when you realize that, less than 50 years ago, primary turnout was twice as high.

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What's perhaps most notable, though, is the partisan difference. Republican primary turnout overtook Democratic turnout for the first time in 2010, and that difference is even bigger this primary season.


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Americans hate Congress. They will totally teach it a lesson by not voting.
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It's no secret that Democrats have a turnout problem. It's bad. (Original Post) kpete Jul 2014 OP
Idiots. onehandle Jul 2014 #1
That's one reason to be wary of polling data madville Jul 2014 #2
Why did voters stop turning out for primaries after 1970? herding cats Jul 2014 #3
It may have had something to do with the tumultuous 68 convention. progressoid Jul 2014 #6
I'll look that up. herding cats Jul 2014 #7
If I'm being generous BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #10
It may be less a matter of turnout decreasing than primaries increasing. TygrBright Jul 2014 #11
The Gop scares their base, gets them fired up to go vote. Why Dems cannot learn that is beyond me! jillan Jul 2014 #4
That's because the GOP base is motivated by fear. jeff47 Jul 2014 #17
The most endearing quality that the Democratic Party has is also its curse: DIVERSITY!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2014 #5
I call BS quakerboy Jul 2014 #8
Plus, they don't have as many minority voters... who are viciously denied their right to vote. nt conservaphobe Jul 2014 #9
The problem in a two party state is that the party nomination process, which is all a primary is, Fred Sanders Jul 2014 #12
No offense, but fifty years ago, primaries were like hen's teeth. MADem Jul 2014 #13
The graph is midterm primaries, not presidential. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2014 #19
Ah, thank you! That's a horse of a different color, entirely!!! nt MADem Jul 2014 #23
holy shit! GOTV! hopemountain Jul 2014 #14
GOTV!!!! kpete Jul 2014 #18
The Republicans have been ratfucking for a very long time. joshcryer Jul 2014 #15
oK, this was one of the two primaries I did not vote in, I voted all the others - but hollysmom Jul 2014 #16
Yes, Republicans have that treestar Jul 2014 #20
I know several people who quit voting because there was no clear choice. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #21
And yet in 2010, Oregon had record level midterm turnout. Why is that? Bluenorthwest Jul 2014 #22

madville

(7,412 posts)
2. That's one reason to be wary of polling data
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:51 PM
Jul 2014

Polls show Scott/Crist pretty much a draw which is bad news, Kentucky Senate race is a draw, the Georgia races favoring Democrats at the moment, etc. Turnout is our biggest hinderance and will probably cost us most all of those races in the end, could get one or two though of those type races, the Georgia governor does appear very vulnerable with the current scandals.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
3. Why did voters stop turning out for primaries after 1970?
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 10:59 PM
Jul 2014

Serious question, it's before my time and I don't know what changed everyone's attitude about the importance of our votes.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
10. If I'm being generous
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 01:00 AM
Jul 2014

It could be that many are so overworked or threatened with firing, they can't stand in line to vote. Many put up the stats for Oregon which has mail in ballots and excellent voter participation. We (most especially Republicans) make it far too difficult to vote. I was once threatened when I went to vote and I stood up to my boss, but too many are on the edge and can't afford to lose even a day's pay or even worse their job.

That's just one of many reasons, but it should be addressed.

TygrBright

(20,762 posts)
11. It may be less a matter of turnout decreasing than primaries increasing.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 01:04 AM
Jul 2014

Prior to 1970, more state Democratic party organizations used the caucus/convention model.

Might have had something to do with it, maybe not.

speculatively,
Bright

jillan

(39,451 posts)
4. The Gop scares their base, gets them fired up to go vote. Why Dems cannot learn that is beyond me!
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 11:04 PM
Jul 2014

The Dems should be screaming about Hobby Lobby and minimum wage every single day from now until the midterms.

They never learn. The majority of people don't pay attention to politics and don't have a clue why this election is so important.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
17. That's because the GOP base is motivated by fear.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 11:02 AM
Jul 2014

Democratic base is not motivated by fear.

You can't use the same techniques on both parties. At least, not successfully.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
5. The most endearing quality that the Democratic Party has is also its curse: DIVERSITY!!
Tue Jul 22, 2014, 11:10 PM
Jul 2014

There's too much diversity of opinions; too many issues of import; the party is too heterogeneous. That's why it's like "herding cats," as the famous saying goes.

With the Republicans, it's either "black or white," no in-between. The party does not embrace diversity of thought or degree. It is a homogeneous party and therefore much easier to get people in line.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
8. I call BS
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 12:49 AM
Jul 2014

Everything I have seen indicates "progressives" keep showing up. Its the so called moderates who dont tend to show up when theres no controversy to draw them and no obvious policy to excite them.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
12. The problem in a two party state is that the party nomination process, which is all a primary is,
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 01:06 AM
Jul 2014

despite all the dressing up by the parties and the media, the problem is with turning the nomination into a circus by mimicking a real election.

Now massive amounts of money are required, the one with the most money wins because an under 10% turnout can be bought.

Better a party nomination meeting of delegates chosen in local districts who are elected to go to that nomination convention/meeting. The pretend delegation at the final party convention is more a coronation.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. No offense, but fifty years ago, primaries were like hen's teeth.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 01:14 AM
Jul 2014

We didn't always HAVE fifty state primaries--we just had a few, and the "party leaders" decided which states would be "allowed" to vote in a primary.

The fact that there were so few primaries meant that the candidates came to your state and spent some time there, and it was a big deal to go hear the candidates and maybe even get a handshake.

Nowadays, EVERYONE gets a primary. Except of course, for the "caucus" people.

Primaries. They aren't special anymore.

1968--these few states "got" the excitement (and woe) of a Democratic primary:



Gold denotes a state won by Lyndon B. Johnson. Purple denotes a state won by Robert Kennedy Green denotes a state won by Eugene McCarthy. Blue denotes a state won by George Smathers. Orange denotes a state won by Stephen M. Young. Grey denotes a state that did not hold a primary.


See how most states are GREY?

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
16. oK, this was one of the two primaries I did not vote in, I voted all the others - but
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 01:52 AM
Jul 2014

I had a wisdom tooth out, the day before, and it was horrible. I was in terrible pain and the dentist did not give me anything for the pain. It was the first tooth pulled since I had the other 3 wisdom teeth pulled in my 20's 40 + years ago. Most seats were uncontested and the others were favored heavily by the people I would have voted for and they romped. Sorry.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. Yes, Republicans have that
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 11:05 AM
Jul 2014

they are motivated and don't give up. It explains why they get more of what they want.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
21. I know several people who quit voting because there was no clear choice.
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 11:07 AM
Jul 2014

"I'm not as bad as the other guy" is not much of distinction.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. And yet in 2010, Oregon had record level midterm turnout. Why is that?
Wed Jul 23, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jul 2014

We have Democrats who are recognizably different from Republicans, that helps. We tend to have issues people care about on our ballots and that helps. We also vote by mail, which makes voting very easy and user friendly.
Compare those elements to States with low turnout then take appropriate action.

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