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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNietszche's words have been echoing in my ears for the past week or so.
"Wer mit Ungeheuern kämpft, mag zusehn, dass er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird. Und wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein."--Nietszche
One who battles monsters must take care that he does not himself thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes back into you.
H2O Man
(73,590 posts)While few feel chipper after reading a chapter by this author, his insights are of very real value.
Thank you for this.
malaise
(269,157 posts)Rec
LuvNewcastle
(16,850 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)ErikJ
(6,335 posts)By one of my favorite bands.
2banon
(7,321 posts)I do want the "No God" sticker thingy,, love to have a couple of those for my instrument cases and car fender... yeah. that's one I want.. thanks for sharin'...
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Because it is so damn true.
The Wizard
(12,547 posts)Thus spaketh Fred N.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Sognefjord
(229 posts)Now there's a dark but true saying!
Scuba
(53,475 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)pretty depressing. Now that I've lived longer, it feels like stand-up comedy.
albino65
(484 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)(and there's always another hand) there's less war going on in the world now that at any time in the 20th century. And the internet is cool.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)& Rec !!!
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)But that's our lives. I guess he's right that we define ourselves by our actions.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I guess that's possible. Absence of choice does have its benefits, I guess, or the life of a nun or monk would be unbearable.
Uncle Joe
(58,402 posts)Thanks for the thread, Jackpine Radical.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)A small boy is listening to his grandfather who says, "A fight is going on inside me. It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil. He is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. The other is good. He is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. This same fight is going on inside you and inside every other person, too."
The boy asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"
His grandfather replied, "The one that is fed."
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)progressoid
(49,996 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)malthaussen
(17,216 posts)Or do you mean "echoing more than usual" recently?
This whole century so far has been a realtime demonstration of the aptness of that warning.
-- Mal
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)But especially loudly lately.
malthaussen
(17,216 posts)... I thought the irony was especially piercing. But the Patriot Act really nailed it for me even earlier. Up to that point, I nurtured an outside hope that cooler heads would prevail. It wasn't so much the Act itself, either, but rather the unanimity with which it was supported. I keep having that reaction more and more these days, when legislatures vote with virtually no dissenters to take another step towards destroying the foundations on which this country was believed to have been built.
-- Mal
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)"gets rid of the pain of being a man" - Dr. Johnson
blackspade
(10,056 posts)K&R.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)It hasn't worked out too well.
ymetca
(1,182 posts)...unto the Darkly-Splendid World; wherein continually lieth a faithless Depth, and Hades wrapped in clouds, delighting in unintelligible images, precipitous, winding, a black ever-rolling Abyss; ever espousing a Body unluminous, formless and void."
--The Chaldaean Oracles of Zoroaster
hue
(4,949 posts)Thanks Jackpine!!
nolabear
(41,990 posts)Sometimes particularly we who assume our own goodness. All slopes are slippery if conditions are right.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)Stellar quote. thanx for posting
Demeter
(85,373 posts)Instead, modify the environment to destroy its habitat. It's subtle, but more effective.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)That's the only way to effectively change the situation. And that's why Occupy was, and remains, such a threat to the oligarchic system.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)ashling
(25,771 posts)a book I read in political theory
De Anslaag (The Assault) by Dutch author Harry Mulisch about WWII. I recommend it.+
NoRWNJ
(33 posts)"Das was mich nicht umbringt, macht mich stärker"
"That which does not kill me, strengthens me."