The conspiratorial nature of Russian Television News

[sufrommich]

Did you know Malaysia Air Flight 17 was full of corpses when it took off from Amsterdam? Did you know that, for some darkly inexplicable reason, on July 17, MH17 moved off the standard flight path that it had taken every time before, and moved north, toward rebel-held areas outside Donetsk? Or that the dispatchers summoned the plane lower just before the crash? Or that the plane had been recently re-insured? Or that the Ukrainian army has air defense systems in the area? Or that it was the result of the Ukrainian military mistaking MH 17 for Putin’s presidential plane, which looks strangely similar?

Did you know that the crash of MH17 was all part of an American conspiracy to provoke a big war with Russia?

Well, it’s all true—at least if you live in Russia, because this is the Malaysia Airlines crash story that you’d be seeing.

As the crisis surrounding the plane crash deepens and as calls for Vladimir Putin to act grow louder, it’s worth noting that they’re not really getting through to Putin’s subjects. The picture of the catastrophe that the Russian people are seeing on their television screens is very different from that on screens in much of the rest of the world, and the importance of this discrepancy does not bode well for a sane resolution to this stand-off...

http://www.newrepublic.com/node/118782

[RobertEarl]

1. They have learned well from US corporate news

Like the WMD in Iraq lies which got one hell of a war on.

As for me, i will await the wikileaks report before concluding what happened.

[sufrommich]

3. You do that. nt

[RobertEarl]

7. No reason to jump to conclusions

Given that nearly all the press has completely ignored the truths about Iraq, Israel, Venezuela, Afghanistan, and etc. only a freaking idiot would be claiming to know what is going down in Ukraine.

What is sad is that many on DU are ready to go to war in Ukraine.

[malaise]

18. +1,000

Given that nearly all the press has completely ignored the truths about Iraq, Israel, Venezuela, Afghanistan, and etc. only a freaking idiot would be claiming to know what is going down in Ukraine.

Trust none. Read all. Truth will out.

[Cha]

2. Sara Firth, the former RT reporter didn't say the Malaysian Tragedy was the straw

that broke the camel's back for Nothin'!

Another RT reporter quits in protest

"Yesterday when the story broke you get the kick in your stomach when you’re going to get the facts and it’s this huge story,” Firth told Press Gazette. “And I walked into the newsroom and they were running an eye-witness account of God-knows who the person was blaming the Ukrainian government, and it is such a volatile situation.”

"RT style guide Rule 1: It is ALWAYS *Ukraine's fault (*add name as applicable)," Firth tweeted

more..
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/07/another-rt-reporter-quits-in-protest-192399.html

Thank you for this, sufrommich.

[sufrommich]

4. The whole article was very interesting. Fox News on

steroids.

[RobertEarl]

8. I forget

Last edited Sun Jul 20, 2014, 11:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Why did Dan Rather resign from CBS?

[sufrommich]

9. What does that have to do with this article?

I don't get the connection.

[NuclearDem]

20. Because he made a mistake and a bunch of RW shitheads demanded his head for it.

[Cha]

10. "Did you know that the crash of MH17 was all part of an American conspiracy to provoke a big war

with Russia?"

"Well, it’s all true—at least if you live in Russia, because this is the Malaysia Airlines crash story that you’d be seeing."

another snip from your link..

"But in Russia, television—most of it owned or controlled by the Kremlin—is trying to muddy the water with various experts who insist that there is no way that an SA-11 missile system could possibly have downed a plane flying that high. And, mind you, this is not part of a larger debate of could they, or couldn’t they; this is all of Russian television and state-friendly papers pushing one line: the pro-Russian separatists we’ve been supporting all these months couldn’t have done this. Watching some of these Russian newscasts, one comes away with the impression of a desperate defense attorney scrounging for experts and angles, or a bad kid caught red-handed by the principal, trying to twist his way out of a situation in which he has no chance."

I've seen bits of this on Rachel's show Friday night.. it's good TNR got it all down on paper. smh Thank you, again, sfm!

[sufrommich]

11. Thanks,I was limited by the 4 paragraph rule. nt

[Cha]

12. Denial Denial Denial. RT and fox "news".. two peas in a pod. We don't let fox "news" talking points

on here.. why should RT get anymore respect?

.. one comes away with the impression of a desperate defense attorney scrounging for experts and angles, or a bad kid caught red-handed by the principal, trying to twist his way out of a situation in which he has no chance

[malaise]

19. Meanwhile back in America

Rather and Donahue were pushed out for attempting to present the truth.

[Cha]

24. So? US corporate media is Koch manufactured "news".. Fucking RT is State Run Putin

Controlled. Everyone on this board is aware of the US mediawhore crisis.

[Codeine]

5. Russian news? That's just DU news!

Seriously, 90% of that nonsense has been espoused right here.

[sufrommich]

6. Alex Jones is eating it up too. nt

[Township75]

21. And if Romney were president a lot of posters would be supporting rt for the truth

We are lucky Obama is in charge otherwise it be overwhelming.

[Cha]

13. Kick!

[Cha]

14. Good this got on the greatest. Now for me to Kick it again.

[freshwest]

15. Wowsers. I don't watch RT except for Hartmann and Sanders. That's worse than FNN, really it is.

More like Infowars territory, which is on RT, or it used to be. I really wasn't getting the hostility, since I wasn't watching it unless referred here at DU or stumbling on it on youtube.

[sufrommich]

16. RT is geared toward an international audience,this

article is about what Russians see on their regular nightly news.And yeah,it's a lot of CT/Infowars crazy.

[MattSh]

17. OK, let me get this straight...

To prove that Russian TV is conspiratorial, she quotes the following...

moved off the standard flight path - a page on Facebook from a guy with 254 friends - https://www.facebook.com/severskij/posts/689723631081301

recently reinsured - a website from Kazakhstan - http://tengrinews.kz/world_news/upavshiy-ukraine-Boeing-Malaysia-Airlines-perestrahovan-tri-milliona-dollarov-rk-258842/

REALLY?

Well, I guess when you have a screed to write and a deadline looming, any source will do...

[Bluenorthwest]

22. Have you seen much Russian TV news MattSh?

Or are you just riffing and assuming with the best and the rest of them?

[William769]

23. Kick & recommended.

[Cha]

25. K!