NEW VIDEO:Chokehold victim lays limp on sidewalk. NYPD tells witnesses "he's breathing".

[ariesgem]

NO CPR, oxygen was administered from the paramedics or NYPD. I believe they let him died on the scene and played it off for the crowd....smh

WARNING: GRAPHIC

Witnesses at the scene remark that police aren't doing enough to save Garner's life in the video.

"Now they're trying to get him an ambulance, after they harassed and slammed him down," a woman taking the video says. "[The] NYPD harassing people for no reason, he didn't do anything at all."


In the new video, an emergency medical service worker can be seen taking Garner's pulse and attempting to talk to him.

"Why is no one doing CPR?" a witness at the scene asks.

"He's breathing," an officer responds back.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/19/eric-garner-chokehold-death_n_5602443.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000047&ir=Black+Voices

[get the red out]

1. So horrible

Thoughts for his family, I don't know how they make it watching him be killed like this. It is very upsetting to me, beyond words.

[napkinz]

2. #JusticeforEricGarner

http://act.colorofchange.org/sign/eric_garner/




Please take action and demand that NYC Police Commissioner Bill Bratton immediately start the process to fire all the officers involved in this devastating police killing. Furthermore, Mayor Bill de Blasio and District Attorney Donovan have the power and the responsibility to hold the police department completely accountable.

Here's the letter we'll send NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio, Police Commissioner Bill Bratton and Staten Island District Attorney Daniel Donovan on your behalf. You can add a personal comment using the box provided.

Dear District Attorney Donovan, Mayor de Blasio and Police Commissioner Bratton,

I am deeply troubled by the outrageous conduct of the officers who choked Eric Garner to death in Staten Island. Garner is the latest in a long history of Black and brown New Yorkers who have unjustly had their lives cut short by police officers over the past decades. But this time the entire brutal encounter was caught on tape.

The officers involved can be seen using a violent chokehold to subdue Eric – which runs counter to the NYPD's use of force policy. This brutal choking is yet another example of unnecessary police encounters resulting from policing policies and practices that target Black and brown communities, such as Stop and Frisk and now Commissioner Bratton's "broken windows" tactic. These discriminatory tactics subject Black and brown New Yorkers to constant harassment, violence and can can quickly escalate and turn fatal.

In order for these incidents to end, it is critical that a thorough and fair investigation be conducted, justice be served and all of the officers involved in the deadly altercation be held accountable.

We demand that these officers be held completely accountable for their outrageus conduct and excessive use of force.

Sincerely,

Your Name

[Ino]

4. The emergency personnel have been suspended now

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/20/nypd-arrest-death_n_5604208.html

They were all putting on a show for the bystanders, pretending he was OK. They couldn't administer CPR as everyone would know he'd been murdered. Disgraceful.

When are any of these thugs going to be held to account?!

[taught_me_patience]

5. He was dead when they put him on the stretcher

Nobody seemed to be checking his pulse or making any attempt at cpr. Completely negligent medical response captured on video.

[magical thyme]

10. the video I watched showed the EMT clearly taking his pulse

first at his wrist for the radial artery and then below his jaw, at the carotid artery. That's at 4 minutes and at 4 minutes 17 seconds. She talks to him and he mumbles back. She says something about them getting something (sounds like she's waiting for another tech to bring something over). She then kneels down and you can't see her, except for a couple seconds she is doing something at his lower back. A few seconds later she placed her hand on his abdomen just below the rib cage, which is where she determined he is breathing. That's at about 4 minutes and 30 seconds.

Only then did they put him on the stretcher to take him to the ambulance. The video stops before he reaches the ambulance, which is where they would have the equipment to provide further assistance.

Edited to add time frames.

[IronGate]

11. Just plain wrong.

Only then did they put him on the stretcher to take him to the ambulance. The video stops before he reaches the ambulance, which is where they would have the equipment to provide further assistance.

We carry all of our necessary equipment to the victim, IE: O2, defibrillator, drugs, IV's and saline, etc, we don't have to get them in the Ambulance to administer live saving assistance.
The bottom line is these Para's were negligent, possibly criminally negligent.

[magical thyme]

12. Well, I'll put it this way...we can't see what is behind her

due to the narrow focus of the film.

She clearly said something about somebody bringing something -- couldn't hear what.

She clearly took his pulse in 2 places, clearly spoke to him, got a mumbled response. Clearly rested her hand on his abdomen.

So the poster to whom I was replying who claimed they didn't even bother to take his pulse or check is breathing is flat out wrong.

What other aid they should have administered at that moment, prior to carrying him to the ambulance, versus at a later moment, will be determined presumably by the investigation. Maybe they were criminally negligent. Maybe not.

Personally, I find it hard to believe that 4 medics and emts would deliberately refrain from giving aid, knowing that it would be investigated. But maybe that's just me...

[IronGate]

13. They should have immediately put him on O2, attached the defib to check his heart rate,

started an IV with a minimum of a 14ga. needle, hooked a bag of normal saline, checked his O2 sats, all of which they didn't do, that is normal protocols for Paramedics for a person in distress.
From what I saw, as a FF/Paramedic with more than 20 years in, it was negligence and broke every medical protocol I've ever been taught.

[magical thyme]

14. do you attach the defib even if you find a good pulse and

regular breathing?

Or do you check for pulse and breathing first, and then determine whether to attach the defib based on your findings?

Other than that, if immediately administering saline is their protocol, then yes, they should have immediately administered saline.

I still find it amazing that out of 4 medics and emts, not one followed protocol. If only out of self-preservation...

[IronGate]

15. We do both at the same time,

one Para checking vitals, while the other is doing the mechanical, O2, IV, defib, O2 Sats.
The ONLY time we don't do that is if the injuries are incompatible with life or rigor has set in, and in the case of rigor, we'll still hook up the defib to get a strip for our report.

[magical thyme]

16. it looks in the video like only 1 emt was there initially

The others don't turn up until the stretcher shows up.

And the ambulance seems to be a distance away. You don't hear a siren ever on the video.

It surprised me that the ambulance wasn't brought closer, but maybe it couldn't get through for some reason?

[redqueen]

6. back up to the top

[cpwm17]

7. They couldn't be bothered to save his life

In the other video the victim said he couldn't breathe while he was being choked.

[IcyPeas]

8. a pack of animals

I just watched this new video. I went back and watched the first video because the article says Garner "took a fighting stance" and that's when they took him down. I didn't notice him taking any fighting stance. They were like a pack of wild animals, surrounding him and just waiting to attack. We all witnessed a murder.

[napkinz]

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