Putin is a Demagogue and a liar..Not to be trusted

[Peacetrain]

to take the dog out.

For those who do not know exactly what a Demagogue is.. it is someone who obtains power by appealing to prejudice and emotion.

He uses the state run media to try and push the truth aside..

He is trying to restore the old Soviet Union by any means possible.

He will use anything and anyone to get his goals.

The rebel leader ran back to Moscow for a reason.. That is where he gets his marching orders.

[Jamaal510]

1. This sounds like...

"For those who do not know exactly what a Demagogue is.. it is someone who obtains power by appealing to prejudice and emotion."

...the traits of a typical modern Republican, doesn't it?

[freshwest]

13. Yes, and it's been working fine for them!

[shraby]

2. First and foremost, Putin was KGB. Nuff said.

[roamer65]

10. Bingo. Once KGB, always KGB.

[Tetris_Iguana]

28. Yup

[Golden Raisin]

19. Exactly.

Also coupled with the Russian people's apparent, historic wish or agreeability to have a strongman, czar-like, authoritarian figure running their government with an iron fist. With Putin, they've got it.

[SidDithers]

3. But the State-run media is watched in 700 billion households...

and they're anti-West. How can they not be trusted?

DURec.

Sid

[Peacetrain]

4. Just read a post where they are editing wikipedia

and the ip address was tracked by to the Russian state run media.. scary

[NuclearDem]

14. Down with the corporate media!

Pay no attention to the Gazprom and UAC behind the curtain, though.

[Jenoch]

24. "...700 billion..." ?

[roguevalley]

29. given that the pugs touted his "manliness" over mr. obama should tellnyou the whole story of

Russia's dubya

[Thinkingabout]

5. Oh, no, Putin can't be lying when he says he doesn't spy on his citizens.

Surely Russia has never spied on anyone.

I thought it was funny when the story went out they were trying to shoot down Putin's plane. And when you look into his eyes and see his soul, yep continue to believe Putin.

[BainsBane]

6. To restore the power of the Soviet Union

without the communist ideology of from each according to his ability and to each according to his need.

[awoke_in_2003]

7. A thug in a cheap suit. K&R. nt

[TheKentuckian]

8. No shit he isn't to be trusted. Who does?

[geek tragedy]

9. Everyone who cites rt.com for one.

Also those who repeat the talking points from Moscow on Ukraine--Russia is doing nothing wrong, the separatists are trying to win their freedom from a Nazi regime, the Crimean referendum was perfectly legitimate, everything in Ukraine is the fault of Neocons and the US government, etc etcetera.

Some are just more subtle than others.

[TheKentuckian]

36. One does not have to trust (weird word to fit the situation anyway) to feel US clandestine

forces are stirring muck and influencing the situation, the track record of such is long as can be all over the globe, typically in advancing business interests.

Does this mean that the situation has developed to where it is exclusively or even mostly because of such efforts? No, but it is a real factor and shouldn't be blown off.

Nor does believing a NAZI influence in the Ukrainian government that some rebel against mean someone trusts Putin.

Hell, posting an article from RT doesn't even mean someone trusts Putin, it could but I don't see the direct line requirement. There are probably kernels of truth or different perspectives to be gleaned that can be placed in a wider framework to do what we always have to do, make the best guess of the truth from combing through propaganda, partial truths, and lies.

I also think that even giving the most open ended definition possible "Putinistas" are an extremely overstated group and more narrowly and sensibly defined would come dawn close to non-existence, a boogeyman to flog and to discredit any and every question about what we are actually doing to create this problem and why we are so focused on it and it ain't about democracy or stopping a neo Stalin from taking over Europe or any mercy mission in any shape for or fashion.

If that is trusting Putin then somebody needs to reevaluate what the word means and how easily their own is bought and sold.

[etherealtruth]

11. No shit!

I see no reason to idealize our own country ... but, jeeze idealizing the Putin regime is beyond ignorance

[Gothmog]

12. The fact that W vouched for Putin's character is all I need

W was wrong in all of his decisions and opinions and W was and is clearly wrong about Putin

[Zambero]

27. Yes, W gazed into his eyes, saw his soul, a great chap

Have Putin's wonderful characteristics been captured on canvas by the "artist" yet?

[muriel_volestrangler]

30. They have:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/09/george-bushs-paintings-bear-uncanny-resemblance-to-google-images

[former9thward]

33. Well, there was that "reset" with Russia Obama announced five years ago.

[Roy Serohz]

15. Uh, yeah, that's true

Not exactly stunning news, though.

[C Moon]

16. And they have the black box, too.

[Cryptoad]

17. comrade snowden seems to like him

[Fred Sanders]

18. Putin gave Snowden sanctuary....was it a bad thing?

[Cha]

20. Good for Putin and Eddie.. symbiotic.

[Spazito]

21. Sanctuary, lol

Snowden is in prison, not an American prison but a prison none the less. He is a useful tool for the moment, when he is no longer useful his 'sanctuary' will disappear faster than you can shake your head.

[conservaphobe]

23. Putin is not a humanitarian.

He saw the perfect new pawn in his grand chessboard... and ran with it.

[cali]

32. what does that have to with trusting him? Is that a reason to trust him?

the op is right. He's a demagogue. Crappy people may do things I agree with- whatever their motivations- that doesn't make them any more trustworthy.

[Fred Sanders]

34. You need to calm down, all these hair on fire posts are burning up your credibility.

[Cali_Democrat]

25. And Greenwald

I don't think Greenwald has even mentioned MH17.

[joshcryer]

26. I think Snowden is trapped.

I think ultimately he does not like his position but he got conned into going there.

[Cha]

22. One would think that on a Democratic board.. that would be understood but,

nooooo.

Mahalo Peacetrain~

[parkia00]

31. But...but...

He rides horses bare chested! He wrestle bears! He dives (bare chested!) and finds treasures in the water! He chops wood (bare chested!). He is the manly man of manly man doing things a manly man has to do that non manly man like Obama can only dream of! He is ... the man.

[Warren Stupidity]

35. OK. So what should we do about Ukraine?