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bigtree

(85,998 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 12:52 AM Jul 2014

Warren speech a shot directly across the bow of the putative Democratic frontrunner (video)

from Charles Pierce:


DETROIT -- If you ignored the signs, and the buttons, and the plastic straw hats, and the people in every corner of the ballroom bleeding from the teeth at the simple possibility of it, there was no indication that anyone at the Netroots Nation hootenanny was entertaining the notion that Senator Elizabeth might be running for president of anything. In contrast to Ramblin' Joe Biden's sprawling address yesterday -- which, admittedly, had its own peculiar charms -- the Senator Professor was brisk and brief and bristling. The speech ran as though it were a class at Harvard Law, bounded at either end by bells. But its pith did not undermine its passion. The Senator Professor has been sharpening her message again. The game is rigged, and, as she says, "We can whimper. We can whine. Or we can fight back."

Most significantly, the speech now contains a pointed passage on international trade, in which deals like NAFTA and the upcoming TPP deal are framed as yet another way the dice are loaded, and another example of there not being any pea under any of the shells. "These trade deals," she said, "are done in secret so big corporations can do their dirty work behind closed doors, so they can have their insider access while worker's rights and environmental regulations are gutted. You know, I've actually had people who support these trade deals come up to me and say that they have to be done in secret because, if they weren't, the people would be opposed. To me, if people would be opposed, then we shouldn't do the trade deals."

Even if she doesn't run, and I still think the chances she will are almost nil, this is a shot directly across the bow of the putative Democratic frontrunner. There is nothing more central to the history of the last President Clinton than the Eisenhower-lite economics with which he triangulated himself, whether that's repealing Glass-Steagall, signing the Commodities Futures Modernization Act as he went out the door, or shepherding NAFTA through Congress and fast-shuffling it past the general population. There is no way for Hillary Clinton to detach herself from that legacy even if she wanted to, and it's not clear at all that she wants to. If Warren doesn't run, she nonetheless has an obvious constituency that is growing, and to which whoever the Democratic nominee is must respond . . .




read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Senator_Professor_Warren_Has_A_Class

related:

Elizabeth Warren at Netroots Nation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025256749

watch speech:


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Warren speech a shot directly across the bow of the putative Democratic frontrunner (video) (Original Post) bigtree Jul 2014 OP
Now here's a theory RobertEarl Jul 2014 #1
update: video of speech in op bigtree Jul 2014 #2
Kick! thanks bigtree Cha Jul 2014 #3
you're very welcome, Cha bigtree Jul 2014 #7
Thank you. nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #4
you are very welcome, littlemissmartypants bigtree Jul 2014 #5
Clearly I took some heat for my stance in your other thread. littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #6
K! Cha Jul 2014 #8
great speech vadermike Jul 2014 #9
K&R'd. snot Jul 2014 #10
I don't think Hil would fair well in a debate with Liz n/t tom_kelly Jul 2014 #11
kick bigtree Jul 2014 #12
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
1. Now here's a theory
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 01:05 AM
Jul 2014

If the Democrats can't find a rich white guy to run for president and have Warren as VP, the republicans might. Of course Warren would have to like the dude.

She has switched before, and former pubbie, Crist, in Florida is running as a Dem, so there is some precedent. (Little, I know, but still)

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
5. you are very welcome, littlemissmartypants
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 02:09 AM
Jul 2014

. . .unhappily, I didn't hear more specifics about women's rights (as you so correctly expect) in her address which was more economic-oriented. Sen. Warren's 'platform' of beliefs could use some broadening in several areas. Still, it was a refreshing address and an important one, I think, for the party to hear.

littlemissmartypants

(22,695 posts)
6. Clearly I took some heat for my stance in your other thread.
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 02:11 AM
Jul 2014

But I am a big girl. Thanks for joining the conversation. You know that I love you.

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
9. great speech
Sat Jul 19, 2014, 02:35 AM
Jul 2014

I support Hillary but I love Warren and think she would make an excellent President.. i think she will do better at this time to stay in the Senate.. IMO ... I am not sure she could win a National Race at this juncture.... but i think she has got alot going for her and if she does decide to mount a primary campaign it should be healthy for the Party (even though Lichtentstein says otherwise lol)

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