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packman

(16,296 posts)
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 09:59 AM Jul 2014

The Death of Dollar Store, Dollar General, etc.

Not content with their regular stores, their Mega stores and their Super stores, Wal Mart is now going after all those little fish left in the water. Say good bye to the local 7-11, Tom Thumb, and small convience stores. The Wal-mart Shark is circling:

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The Death of Dollar Store, Dollar General, etc. (Original Post) packman Jul 2014 OP
I buy a LOT of my household needs at the Dollar Tree. djean111 Jul 2014 #1
I know they are killers of smaller companies like 7-11 yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #4
This makes me sad. Atman Jul 2014 #7
I was just referring to the architecture yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #11
Our 7-11's are nothing to get excited about Bonx Jul 2014 #15
I don't think 'smaller company' and 7-11 belong in the same sentence. Jenoch Jul 2014 #19
I do alot of my shopping at the local Family Dollar store. Kaleva Jul 2014 #6
My son used to work for Dollar Tree Freddie Jul 2014 #30
Have an article to link too? Agschmid Jul 2014 #2
Here's one TexasProgresive Jul 2014 #5
Thank you! Agschmid Jul 2014 #9
I have heard about the Wal-Mart Express and Wal-Mart Neighborhood Markets, but never seen one davidpdx Jul 2014 #3
face/palm Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #8
Look, Giant Mega Corp is duping you into thinking they're a local market! Atman Jul 2014 #10
at the risk of sounding stupid - Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #13
Cool! Atman Jul 2014 #18
me either but, they are all up in my house with disease. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #20
The US is in the express lane to total Idiocracy at an exponential rate. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #56
Sam's kids are just stupid rich people running Dad's business into the ground. greatlaurel Jul 2014 #12
Same thing here n/t betterdemsonly Jul 2014 #21
On a cold day in Hell will I shop at Walmart, large or small PADemD Jul 2014 #14
And even then, I won't Populist_Prole Jul 2014 #33
The only time I go to Walmart is when I have to drive by one. I really hate F'en Walmart and RKP5637 Jul 2014 #57
Our local paper ran a story a couple of days ago about two WalMart Express stores that will be Arkansas Granny Jul 2014 #16
Aexpress is going up in Russellville as well. Lancero Jul 2014 #35
Marginal workers here start at the food bank Warpy Jul 2014 #17
Those stores aren't local either gollygee Jul 2014 #22
My local 99 cent store shanti Jul 2014 #23
"reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated" hfojvt Jul 2014 #24
I'm starting a $1.37 Store...just to f**k with people. Atman Jul 2014 #25
Lol Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #27
I live in rural Utah... TeeYiYi Jul 2014 #26
Remember these? GeorgeGist Jul 2014 #28
yes, and I miss them desperately librechik Jul 2014 #29
I miss... TeeYiYi Jul 2014 #31
Yes thanks for the memories Freddie Jul 2014 #32
There's a Ben Franklin local to me... Wounded Bear Jul 2014 #34
Interesting ! An alternative to Hobby Lobby ? nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2014 #44
I suppose... Wounded Bear Jul 2014 #47
Sadly, there's no longer a BF in our town ... eppur_se_muova Jul 2014 #61
That's where I got my first real six-string! Nye Bevan Jul 2014 #37
Joey quit, onethatcares Jul 2014 #50
"Now, now, the Canadian Government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions!" [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2014 #54
My home town had Ben Franklin, SS Kress..Kresge..Woolworth, Duckwalls & Neisner SoCalDem Jul 2014 #39
Bethel, Ohio SamKnause Jul 2014 #40
There's still a Ben Franklin store in Lakeville, MN NickB79 Jul 2014 #41
Remember the 5 & 10 stores well. RebelOne Jul 2014 #43
Didn't even need the names. Atman Jul 2014 #46
Sprouse-Reitz was our only "department" store for years. bluesbassman Jul 2014 #49
Yes, they were great stores and seemed to have a bit of everything and not junk. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2014 #58
There are still a few Ben Franklin stores jmowreader Jul 2014 #62
the wallmart boycott is working, NM_Birder Jul 2014 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #38
Hmm, this will be interesting, don't know if it will work everywhere... Humanist_Activist Jul 2014 #42
Even their so-called logo is a rip-off. Atman Jul 2014 #45
Their asterisk logo always reminds me of Vonnegut's drawing of an asshole. TheMightyFavog Jul 2014 #48
The Walmart logo... yallerdawg Jul 2014 #52
My favorite avatar Trajan Jul 2014 #59
I hope I live long enough to see Walmart die a slow, painful death. City Lights Jul 2014 #51
I would not bet that Walmart's decision to play means they will win. CincyDem Jul 2014 #53
They advertised a lot down here in Florida, touting that they were cheaper than Publix. djean111 Jul 2014 #60
... but we don't allow monopolies in USA, Inc. Guess that flew out the RKP5637 Jul 2014 #55
I'm not so sure... sendero Jul 2014 #63
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. I buy a LOT of my household needs at the Dollar Tree.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:01 AM
Jul 2014

Walmart, even if I didn't mind their policies, is no cheaper than any other store except for the Dollar Tree.
By the way, some of those "Dollar" stores are giant rip-offs.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
4. I know they are killers of smaller companies like 7-11
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:18 AM
Jul 2014

but I like the way they have built the stores. That Walmart Neighborhood Market looks really neat. Will I go into one? I don't know.....I have never seen one. They can't be that popular.

Bonx

(2,065 posts)
15. Our 7-11's are nothing to get excited about
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jul 2014

They recently took over four spots of a former local chain & tore out the kitchens & replaced the freshly made food with metal rollers of hot dogs and a glass box full of old pizza under heat lamps. All the local specialty items replaced with bland national brand crap.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
19. I don't think 'smaller company' and 7-11 belong in the same sentence.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:35 AM
Jul 2014

There are more than 50,000 7-11 locations worldwide and their headquarters is in Tokyo.

Kaleva

(36,327 posts)
6. I do alot of my shopping at the local Family Dollar store.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:31 AM
Jul 2014

Dollar Tree is very good but the nearest one is some 40 miles away so it's rare I get the chance to shop there.

Freddie

(9,273 posts)
30. My son used to work for Dollar Tree
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jul 2014

PT in HS/college. They seem to treat their employees pretty well compared to other retail.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
2. Have an article to link too?
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:01 AM
Jul 2014

I saw this other day but the article I read said walmart has a loooooong way to go before they conquer 7-11.

I'll find my source...

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
3. I have heard about the Wal-Mart Express and Wal-Mart Neighborhood Markets, but never seen one
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:14 AM
Jul 2014

Wal-mart pulled out of South Korea in 2006 after failing miserably. Tesco South Korean subsiderary Homeplus has the same type of hypermarts. There are two in our neighborhood in addition to a full Homeplus store.

They look similar:

Atman

(31,464 posts)
10. Look, Giant Mega Corp is duping you into thinking they're a local market!
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:36 AM
Jul 2014

How did this country get so stupid?

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
13. at the risk of sounding stupid -
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:47 AM
Jul 2014

fuck I know.

I just happen to live here.

maybe Kardashians and Football and ...

I'm not saying it was Aliens but, dude it was Aliens with "actual film footage"



greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
12. Sam's kids are just stupid rich people running Dad's business into the ground.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 10:46 AM
Jul 2014

The local stores in Ohio are poorly staffed and very poorly stocked. The parking lots are often empty except in a very few places.
Their prices are not cheap either.

They fail to stock common items like peanuts and graham crackers. No way to run a business.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
33. And even then, I won't
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:52 PM
Jul 2014

Unfortunately my refusal to patronize that evil empire is overshadowed by so many people I know who are so damned loyal to that shite hole. To hear some of them talk, they can't live without it.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
57. The only time I go to Walmart is when I have to drive by one. I really hate F'en Walmart and
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 06:02 PM
Jul 2014

everything they stand for. On occasion I have to drive through their parking lot, always treacherous, at least here, because there are so many damn fools in the parking lot that can't drive worth a damn.

Arkansas Granny

(31,525 posts)
16. Our local paper ran a story a couple of days ago about two WalMart Express stores that will be
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:02 AM
Jul 2014

built in our area. They are both to be in small towns in rural areas that are at least 20 - 30 minutes from a town large enough to have supermarkets. One of these towns has not had a grocery store at all in over 4 years. They will definitely be welcomed there.

Lancero

(3,011 posts)
35. Aexpress is going up in Russellville as well.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jul 2014

And it already has a Supercenter, 10-15 minutes away from where they are building it.

And it's going inbetween a Krogers, Dollar General, Freds and Walgreens.

Pretty sure the Walgreens will be closing up shop as a result, proably the Dollar General as well.

Warpy

(111,319 posts)
17. Marginal workers here start at the food bank
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:04 AM
Jul 2014

then they head to the dollar stores and Big Lots for their near expiration food and if they have big gaps to fill, they go to the high priced store--Wal Mart, where a lot of them work.

This is no longer a recession. It's a depression. It's just been hidden from view because our corrupt and utterly useless infotainment news media won't report on it.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
22. Those stores aren't local either
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:41 AM
Jul 2014

There are local stores that will be affected, but Dollar Tree or whatever isn't local.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
23. My local 99 cent store
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 11:49 AM
Jul 2014

is not even strictly 99 cents per item anymore. They also sell wine (I'm in Cali) and it's $2.99 a bottle. They changed much of their produce to 99 PER POUND rather than 99 cents per package, which is a rip off, because their produce isn't really top quality and not worth even that. I'd rather spend my money at the local saturday farmer's market and get better quality produce, than pay out to the 99 cent store. their produce is mostly from mexico anyway. i bought a bag of small avocados recently from 99 cent, and all four of them were spoiled on the inside, even though they looked ok from the outside.

but to the subject, there won't be an express here, as the local walmart is across the street from the 99 cent store.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
24. "reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated"
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:00 PM
Jul 2014

But we are supposed to mourn Dollar General? I shop at the local DG, because it is cheap and very close to where I live, but how are they supposed to be better than Wal-mart. One employee there told me he would make more money if he worked at Wal-mart. It's not like their pay and benefits are better than Wally's. They are certainly smaller, but it's not like they are a mom and pop, or locally owned. (although I am surprised the Montgomery Ward business model has not been more successful - they were locally owned, and by being locally owned you get a local owner who will bust their butt trying to make the franchise work. I said from my own business experience that you will work longer, and harder and for less pay for yourself than you would for any other employer.)

Atman

(31,464 posts)
25. I'm starting a $1.37 Store...just to f**k with people.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:02 PM
Jul 2014

I'm going to market it as an "Upscale" dollar store.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
26. I live in rural Utah...
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:05 PM
Jul 2014

...where the closest town just watched its Family Dollar store go out of business last week.



Meanwhile, the Dollar Tree in the same town does more business than it has a right to and is a direct competitor to Walmart.



The local Walmart is the biggest game within a 50 mile radius. They are the largest local retailer and employer for miles.

Lately, the local Walmart has been revamping their business model; higher prices, less inventory. The town is changing and I recently found out that Target will soon have a new store there.

Meanwhile, the storefronts on main street struggle to stay open; quietly shuttering themselves one after another...

What does it all mean? I don't know. It's sad. It's another small town whose main street business owners are losing the battle to stay competitive with large corporations.

A sign of the times. Growing pains in a small town that is rapidly losing its middle class and catering to the frugality of the majority of its citizens who subsist on food stamps and social security checks.

TYY

Photos are random google images and not the actual stores from the town I'm talking about.

Wounded Bear

(58,690 posts)
34. There's a Ben Franklin local to me...
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:58 PM
Jul 2014

It's no longer 5 and Dime, of course. It's more of a hobby store, arts and crafts and stuff.

Wounded Bear

(58,690 posts)
47. I suppose...
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jul 2014

I don't know of a HL in my immediate area, and since I don't frequent such stores, I haven't researched. I guess there is one in Eastern WA, but I don't know of any in the Seattle area.

I compare the BF with stores like JoAnn's and/or Michaels as far as merchandise and activities. They do classes on crafts and such and sell a lot of supplies for home crafts and holiday decorations and the like.

eppur_se_muova

(36,281 posts)
61. Sadly, there's no longer a BF in our town ...
Sat Jul 12, 2014, 12:17 AM
Jul 2014

used to be one, back when they were a 5&10. Apparently there's only about nine in the whole US.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
39. My home town had Ben Franklin, SS Kress..Kresge..Woolworth, Duckwalls & Neisner
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 02:08 PM
Jul 2014

AND a whole downtown full of locally owned family businesses & restaurants.. Everything was closed on Sundays, and nothing stayed open (except for a few restaurants) past 5:30 PM Mon-Sat.

We had Sears, Wards, Western Auto, Penneys and several shoe stores, as well as many other independent stores.

Malls & suburbans sprawl killed our downtown..

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
41. There's still a Ben Franklin store in Lakeville, MN
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 02:55 PM
Jul 2014

I remember going to one in Little Falls, MN as a kid in the 80's.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
43. Remember the 5 & 10 stores well.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 03:27 PM
Jul 2014

When I was a kid, I used to shop at them for Christmas in downtown Miami. It was really a treat and go downtown to shop at Woolworth.

bluesbassman

(19,378 posts)
49. Sprouse-Reitz was our only "department" store for years.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 05:26 PM
Jul 2014

I think that's even my mom's old Rambler station wagon parked out front!

Response to packman (Original post)

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
42. Hmm, this will be interesting, don't know if it will work everywhere...
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jul 2014

The problem is, as always, location, location, location. While 7-11s in our area seem to be downsizing, it looks like its because of bad locations and changing economic conditions. They seem to do best in more urban environments.

Wal-Mart seems to have a similar issue, both for the big box supercenters and their regular stores. There are several in my area, but practically anywhere I lived, they were never the closer to me than someplace more convenience and cheaper. For example, the 2 closest walmarts are two supercenters, but both are about 5-6 miles from me...driving either east or west. But, literally on the way to one of these stores, there's a Target that's less than 3 miles away, and a full fledged Mall. If you are talking groceries, there are 3 local grocery store chains closer than Walmart, being about 2 miles away from home(2 Schnucks, one Shop n' Save), and 2 of them are 24 hour stores. Not to mention the 2 Walgreens we are just as close two, or the convenience store that is right across the street from me.

Oh, forgot to mention all the Family Dollar, Dollar General and Dollar Tree stores near me, there are at least half a dozen that are closer than the nearest Walmart.

Unless Walmart is going to buy out existing chains of stores, it will be an uphill battle for them to compete.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
45. Even their so-called logo is a rip-off.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 03:40 PM
Jul 2014

First they used the non-trademarked smiley face. Then they use "Shift 8" for their new logo. Anything to avoid paying working people for their jobs.

CincyDem

(6,379 posts)
53. I would not bet that Walmart's decision to play means they will win.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 05:49 PM
Jul 2014

Lots of noise when Walmart decided to go after fresh foods and take on the grocery channel. Kroger seems to be doing quite well thank you very much.

7-11 is Southland out of Dallas. They're no "small company". Lots of smart folks that know their consumers really really well. It's not like their taking on the local mom and pop grocery or five-and-dime on this one.

Shoppers at convenience stores come through the door with a mindset and buying patterns different that the traditional Walmart consumer. There's a little more to selling to those folks than just putting a little store on the corner.



 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
60. They advertised a lot down here in Florida, touting that they were cheaper than Publix.
Fri Jul 11, 2014, 08:54 PM
Jul 2014

Nope. Not working.

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