Police Obtain Warrant to Take Pictures of Teenage Boy's Erect Penis

[xchrom]

http://www.alternet.org/police-obtain-warrant-take-pictures-teenage-boys-erect-penis



Police and prosecutors in the City of Manassas and Prince William County, Virginia have obtained a search warrant to photograph the erect penis of a teenage boy who is facing child pornography "sexting" charges. But attorneys for the 17-year-old boy — whose name is being withheld because he is underage — say that prosecutors are over-reaching their investigative authority.

The teenager faces charges stemming from an alleged instance of receiving sexting pictures from his then 15-year-old girlfriend. Prosecutors say that they have video of the boy's erect penis that was sent to the girl's cell phone. If convicted, the boy could see prison time and be forced to register as a sex offender, according to the Washington Post.

An attorney representing the 17-year-old, Jessica Harbeson Foster, claims she was told that the police would just take him "down to the hospital, give him a shot and then take the pictures that we need.”

“The prosecutor’s job is to seek justice,” Foster told the Post. “What is just about this? How does this advance the interest of the Commonwealth? This is a 17-year-old who goes to school every day, plays football, has never been in trouble with the law before. Now he’s saddled with two felonies and the implication that he’s a sexual predator. I don’t mind trying the case. My goal is to stop the search warrant. I don’t want him to go through that. Taking him down to the hospital so he can get an erection in front of all those cops, that’s traumatizing.”

[FreakinDJ]

1. Some sick people indeed

The girl wasn't sexting him back I take it

[LadyHawkAZ]

2. the article says she was n/t

[FreakinDJ]

5. Radical prosecutor Hell Bent On prosecuting Evil Male Child

He was probably 15 or 16 at the time it occured and she may have even initiated the exchange

But the Evil Male Child must pay the rest of his life

[Ken Burch]

50. Don't try to turn this into another MRA thread.

This is about police overreach...not demonizing males.

It's just as likely they'd have asked to photograph the girl's body if she'd been the older party in this.

[elehhhhna]

51. and public outcry if that was the case would be deafening

[Ken Burch]

59. This thread is PART of a public outcry, and it will grow.

This has nothing to do with the gender of the kid they want to photograph, and the OP is denouncing the cops for what they're trying to do here...so you're starting a fight you don't actually need to start here.

[elehhhhna]

78. I am not starting a fight. I'm pointing out that this would be clearly not oaky if he was a

young woman and is thus, not okay. At all.

[FreakinDJ]

70. So why is he being prosecuted then

Both are juveniles - Both are the same age now - 17 yrs of age

Why is 1 being charged with Felonies that would land him in prison and force him to register as a "Sex Offender" for the rest of his life

Is it a Black football player and a White girl or a simple case of gender bias

[Ken Burch]

84. (The post that was here was based on inaccurate information. That's why I removed it). n/t.

Last edited Fri Jul 11, 2014, 12:20 AM - Edit history (1)

[Hofbrau]

86. That's not MRA...

That's common sense and double standards.

[elehhhhna]

54. just a little dickvideo sendin' angel, he is

i' sure

[FreakinDJ]

72. The Girl sent pictures first

Foster said the boy sent the video after she sent him photos of herself; the content has not been described. The girl has not been charged.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/09/virginia-teen-sexting-cops-penis-photo/12434813/

But I'm sure you rather blame the male child first and ask questions later as you so amply demonstrated

[FreakinDJ]

75. Doesn't seem right - not even a little bit

[msongs]

3. "plays football..." there it is, the all-american excuse for any behavior nt

[LordGlenconner]

7. Or for people who don't know what they're talking about

To paint with a very broad brush.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

8. Yeah, he would be better off roaming the streets or hanging out in the park.

[Comrade Grumpy]

9. Do you think this kid should be hit with two felonies for sexting his girlfriend?

Football player or not.

[GoCubsGo]

4. Not sure who are the bigger creeps here.

The cops, the prosecutor, or the judge that issued the warrant. I'm not saying that what these kids were doing was acceptable behavior, but this is just sick and excessive.

[RKP5637]

55. Agree!!! n/t

[trumad]

6. question is...

Who gets to fluff?

[stevenleser]

10. That is what the shot/injection is for. There are substances (i.e. viagra/cialis) that will cause

an erection.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

14. I hope any doctor who writes the script loses his licence to practice medicine.

I doubt the medicine is approved by the FDA for use on a healthy 17 year old.

Are they going to do a physical on him and lie he is suffering from erectile dysfunction?

[stevenleser]

19. I seem to remember this being done on other suspects before.

Just tried to do a quick search and didnt find any definitive hits. Will have to check later...

[Jackpine Radical]

28. See my post #26 below. You won't find a news story about it though.

Let's just say it was a well-known incident in some of my professional circles.

[MannyGoldstein]

30. Docs can prescribe for any use they see fit

Usage for something other than what the FDA approves it for is called "off label use", it's very common and not illegal (for better or worse).

[Jackpine Radical]

38. Nevertheless, they expose themselves (ahem.) to civil action and maybe professional discipline

if their actions do not fall within conventionally accepted standards of practice.

If the doc's action is clearly not for therapeutic purposes, I'd say he's sticking his--uh, neck--out.

[MannyGoldstein]

47. Good point. nt

[Agschmid]

89. +1

[HERVEPA]

44. So close, but wrong.

The drugs do not cause an erection. If a person is aroused, it helps maintain and stiffen the erection.

[stevenleser]

49. You are not correct.

https://www.cornellurology.com/clinical-conditions/erectile-dysfunction/drugs-for-erection-problems/

and

http://www.urologicalcare.com/other-ed-treatments/penile-injection-therapy/

Penile Injection Therapy

Highlights of Injection Therapy
First FDA-approved medication for the treatment of E.D.
80 percent of men in clinical trials achieved firm erections
Individualized dosage determined for each patient's needs
Works for men with a broad range of medical conditions
Produces a safe predictable erection
The only medication that will initiate an erection

[HERVEPA]

71. Well, actually I'm right.

You said "There are substances (i.e. viagra/cialis) that will cause an erection.

They are not injected and do not cause an erection. http://erectile-dysfunction.emedtv.com/cialis/how-does-cialis-work.html

The injected ones, which are neither of these two, do.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

11. Beulah Balbricker

[m-lekktor]

13. it is explained in the article

the cops will give him a "shot" then take pictures.

[FreakinDJ]

21. In all due respect - "You sick Fuckin Fuck"

Why its the Prosecutor of course

[bluesbassman]

12. "Give him a shot and take the pictures we need".

Wrong on so many levels. They are administrering drugs to in effect gain a confession which is a form of torture and is also a Fifth Ammendment violation, and by engaging in this activity they are in fact producing child pornography themselves.

If they gain a conviction using this tactic, I would hope that it will be thrown out on appeal.

[TheBlackAdder]

62. Unless he's a Pro-Grade hacker... the phone would imbed source metadata within the video. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. Oh, my God! Teenagers indulge in sex?!?!? In America?!!!?

Why, by gum, it ain't natural!

[TwilightGardener]

16. Is this for real? What is this sick invasive shit?

[RKP5637]

57. Exactly, it's bizarre and ridiculous! n/t

[cali]

17. fuck these prosecutors with rusty farm implements. asswipe douchebags

kids are sexual beings. shocker. they experiment with one another. and they fuck. big fucking deal.

[Pathwalker]

25. Seriously? You think the prosecutors should be RAPED?

With what - a cattle probe? Your sense of proportionality needs a gut check, IMO.

I vote they lose their law license - forever.

[Jackpine Radical]

31. Well, to be fair, she said nothing about rape.

Some of the prosecutors I have known would probably enjoy some of Cali's suggestions.

[Pathwalker]

33. You think they'd consent to being fucked with a rusty farm tool?

Sex without consent = rape.

[cali]

48. it's a turn of phrase, my dear. colorful, I admit. Have you, my saintly friend

never ever in your life said or thought "fuck you"? Did you intend or wish that the object of your ire be raped?

grow a something.

[nomorenomore08]

64. A bit of foul language isn't much compared to what we're talking about. So I'm with you.

[Pathwalker]

69. No, cali, I've never wished for ANYONE to be fucked with

rusty farm implements. I try not to spread vulgarities around like manure on on a farm field, so that when I do use profanity, people know it's something I mean, not just my laziness of speech. I grow many things: trees, shrubs, flowers, vegetables, fruit, three sons, many cats. If the "something" you want me to grow is a pair of ovaries(not where courage/decency is located, btw) mine were surgically removed over 20 years ago - if they grow back, I'm suing the surgeon.

[cali]

83. nice bit of squirreling away from my question, dear.

and when I said grow something, I was thinking above the neck, not below the waist. I like vulgarities and clearly it's not because my vocabulary is wanting or because I can't express myself well without using them. I like 'em. and it's utter bullshit to fucking claim that I'm advocating rape by using salty language.

lol. laziness of speech. hardly. feel free to check out my writing in the writing forum and then dare to make that foolish claim. oh never mind. you seem fond of doing that.

[jberryhill]

85. Not even sideways?

[Babel_17]

18. Sounds like another (bad) Porky's sequel

but with, you know, the whole destroying a (what seems to be a non-evil kid's) life.

A juvenile, and crass, movie but the comparison is all the stronger for that, imo.

[Politicalboi]

23. That was the best part of the movie

Even Ike liked it.

[herding cats]

20. So they can force an injection on this young man to cause an erection?

Unless I'm mistaken injections of this type are given directly into the penis. So what they've a warrant for is to take the boy into a medical center, force him to bare his penis in front of strangers who will then administer a painful injection of a medication into his penis to cause it to become erect without his consent. They will then take pictures of his penis to be used to prosecute him for having been engaged in sexting with his girlfriend. How is that in anyway justice?

They already have pictures of his flaccid penis. If those and whatever other evidence they have isn't enough for them to prosecute the case so be it.

[Ilsa]

34. who said they'd inject his penis?

More likely would be given viagra orally to promote it. I have doubts a dr would agree to this.

[herding cats]

37. The article said it would be an injection.

The only erectile dysfunction injections I know of go directly into the penis.

[conservaphobe]

29. Authoritarianism allows plenty of room for contradictions.

Get with the program, dude!

[LeftyMom]

24. It sounds like they're trying to be intentionally awful to scare these kids into a plea.

I don't see what the difference is between two teenagers dropping trou in the same room and sexting each other. In a sane world their parents would take their phones away (or give them old/cheap phones that just make phone calls, the horror!) and that would be the end of it.

edit: And I agree with the above posters that the crime here is being committed by the police.

[XemaSab]

32. Here's the difference:

You're not going to get AIDS and/or a baby from dick pix.

[LeftyMom]

46. TRUE.

[Hippo_Tron]

56. Cheap/Old phones still have cameras on them

Dan Savage had a very good bit about this issue, that it's not the phone it's the camera that allows everyone to literally have a porn production studio at their fingertips. He says they simply need to start making phones that do everything BUT take pictures and video that we can give to teens.

[LeftyMom]

73. It looks like there are a few models for kids that don't have one, but they're hardly fully featured

I don't think that's a problem, personally. Then again my teenager has no cell phone at all, so clearly I'm the worst, meanest parent ever.

There are also smartphone apps to disable features/ limit features to certain hours for kids. I can't vouch for their effectiveness or teen-proofness.

[Jackpine Radical]

26. Somewhat OT (but not really)--I know of a case in which

a State prosecutor wanted to force Viagra on an impotent old sex offender so they could conduct a penile plethysmograph on him in order to show deviant arousal to kids so that the could establish a "mental abnormality" and thereby commit him to a secure treatment facility for life after he finished his lengthy prison sentence.

[nomorenomore08]

66. Now that is just bizarre... n/t

[Jackpine Radical]

76. Much of what is done in these realms is bizarre.

I know of a recent case of a 68 year-old guy with no sex drive, confined to a wheelchair, whom the State insisted was in the highest-risk category & needed to have his commitment continued.

I know of another case in which the "patient" passed a lie detector test about his victims, but the treatment staff were sure he had more victims & forced him to "admit" to additional victims. His polygraphs started going into the Deceptive range & they used this as evidence that he wasn't disclosing everything & went to court to continue his commitment.

Lewis Carroll could never have made this shit up.

[LadyHawkAZ]

79. I'm curious what the outcome was there? n/t

[Jackpine Radical]

81. Both unsettled afaik.

[conservaphobe]

27. This criminalization of sex has to stop.

Technology is changing.

Teenagers are going to get sexual in new ways.

And the laws should be rewritten to lighten up on sexting.

Futures are being ruined because of it.

[RKP5637]

63. Agree so much! n/t

[nomorenomore08]

67. +1

[lpbk2713]

35. "Alright ... hold that pose."

Someone is hard up for evidence.


Pun intended.

[AngryAmish]

36. I bet the boy is black

And the girl is white.

[FreakinDJ]

42. DING DING DING - We have a WINNER Folks

[arcane1]

39. Potentially stupid question: why aren't they also charging the girl?

[xchrom]

40. She's underage - he's legal but just. Nt

[arcane1]

41. How can he be sending child porn if he's of legal age?

Are they trying to have it both ways?

[xchrom]

45. Who knows? They're obviously reaching -

I just don't what they're reaching for.

[winter is coming]

61. I think that's probably about his receiving sexted pictures from the 15 year old girlfriend.

This "case" is seriously messed up.

[LadyHawkAZ]

80. Article says he's only 17 and also underage n/t

[Jacoby365]

43. Because the perverted cop

likes teenage boys?

[elehhhhna]

53. there's something very molest-y about inducing a hardon for law enforcement purposes

but otoh since the gov is all up in our vaginas I guess it's only fair

[RKP5637]

65. This society is sooo fucked up in so many ways. This, is incredible. n/t

[Hippo_Tron]

58. Cultural double standard

And to pre-empt the #notallmen crowd, that double standard comes from our patriarchal culture.

[bluestateguy]

52. Okay

So the state now has special permission to produce more child pornography to investigate child pornography.

Got it.

[TwilightGardener]

60. C'mere, kid, we're gonna give you a boner, and watch, and take pictures!!

I mean...I can't be more flabbergasted over the perversion of this. It's fucking crazy.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

68. I'm sorry, but the first thing that jumps to mind

is the Chapelle Show skit about identifying Michael Jackson's penis in court.

[Jackpine Radical]

77. Somehow it reminds me of when the police said they had a good witness ID on a flasher.

She said he was about 1.5 inches in diameter & 6 inches long.

[Vattel]

82. I hate the executive branch of government

[FourScore]

87. Do the authorities not see the irony of their actions?

Unbelievable!

These are teenagers in a sexually-provacative society having relationships through social media.

This whole case is disgusting. The boy's probably so scared by now he'll never do anything like it again. If they don't have the case, they need to give him a stern talking to and drop it, for God's sakes!

[WinkyDink]

88. Jerry Sandusky approves of this.

[Warren Stupidity]

90. The police should then immediately arrest themselves for child porn and sexual abuse of

a minor.

What the flying fuck is wrong with us?

[Dr. Strange]

91. UPDATE: Police Drop Demand To Take Explicit Photos Of Minor Defendant In Sexting Case

Because too many people were finding out what pervs the police were.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/virginia-police-drop-demand-to-take-explicit-photos-of-minor-defendant-in-sexting-case/

[bluedigger]

92. "however the charges against Sims remain"

Given that the age of consent in VA is 15, and that the relationship was consensual, this remains a racially biased travesty of justice.

[Dr. Strange]

93. Truth.