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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 01:29 PM Jul 2014

Finally, Science Explains Why Rush Limbaugh Gets So Mad About Women Having Sex

By Amanda Marcotte

Even though 95 percent of Americans have premarital sex, as anyone who advocates for women's reproductive rights on Twitter can tell you, there is still a shocking amount of anger, and many colorful epithets, aimed directly at women who indulge. Why is there so much angst over women's sexual choices? Jesse Singal at Science of Us looks at a recent study that suggests that a lot of the desire to control and punish female sexuality is rooted in the belief that women are, or should be, financially dependent on men. Singal writes:

In the paper, which consisted of two studies and was published in Archives of Sexual Behavior, researchers from Brunel University asked a large group of Americans to rate their level of agreement with statements like “It is wrong for women to engage in promiscuous sex” and “It is fine for a woman to have sex with a man she has just met, if they both want to.” They also had them respond to statements gauging to what extent they viewed women as economically reliant on men — "Of the women I know who are in long-term heterosexual relationships, most do not depend very heavily on money contributed by their male partner," and so on.

Overall, the more likely a given respondent believed women were economically dependent on men, the more likely they were to view female promiscuity as immoral. These were modest to medium effects, but they were statistically significant, even controlling for factors like religiosity and political conservatism.


The researchers argue that this may stem from long-standing cultural concerns about "paternity certainty" that linger on in more conservative circles despite the advent of birth control. "Beliefs," they write, "may persist due to cultural evolutionary adaptive lag … that is, because the environment has changed faster than the moral system." This suggests, I'd argue, that the recent upswing in hostility to birth control is an attempt to preserve these cultural norms.

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Finally, Science Explains Why Rush Limbaugh Gets So Mad About Women Having Sex (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2014 OP
He gets mad because they don't want sex with him. louis-t Jul 2014 #1
Lifelong celibacy... 3catwoman3 Jul 2014 #7
The men I know who are the most hateful & misogynistic BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #11
I can get with much of what you have written ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #19
He pretends to get mad to rile up potential R voters. That's all. n/t Orsino Jul 2014 #14
^winner! LadyHawkAZ Jul 2014 #25
Excellent article ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #2
I think so too libodem Jul 2014 #4
In a related article 4Q2u2 Jul 2014 #3
Thus, if Rush was poor, no one would ever have sex with him. Octafish Jul 2014 #5
Gee and I always thought... abakan Jul 2014 #6
He has to pay them to be quiet, I bet. Ilsa Jul 2014 #8
According to his former college room mate, Rush is a closeted male. Fuddnik Jul 2014 #21
I had no idea...Thanks for the info...nt abakan Jul 2014 #27
Too bad the article has Rush in the title ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #9
Marcotte d_r Jul 2014 #10
But intriguing nonetheless ismnotwasm Jul 2014 #13
yeah that's fair enough d_r Jul 2014 #20
my take too. fear of the cuckhold is deep, and the evolutionary reasons are strong. mopinko Jul 2014 #12
Yes elleng Jul 2014 #18
My personal theory is that the men who are angry scored low on South Park's TMI index. Initech Jul 2014 #15
this is precisely why "beliefs" have no place in secular society noiretextatique Jul 2014 #16
'cultural evolutionary adaptive lag' elleng Jul 2014 #17
I think this extrapolates a little... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2014 #22
Rush and his wife fit that pretty accurately underpants Jul 2014 #23
Folks, you're reading too much into this IkeRepublican Jul 2014 #24
Well, science discusses and probes and studies gas giants, so why not? calimary Jul 2014 #26

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
11. The men I know who are the most hateful & misogynistic
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 02:26 PM
Jul 2014

Are the ones who have difficulty with starting or keeping a relationship. That sounds obvious, but if you never truly interact with women they seem like wholly different creatures. It leads to awkwardness, which then clashes with the marketing that every man should be showered with supermodels, which then leads to a twisted hatred of women. They often don't have sisters and so their first experience with a woman is the one who rejected them. MRA types most especially.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
19. I can get with much of what you have written ...
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jul 2014

However, I have to disagree with this:

They often don't have sisters and so their first experience with a woman is the one who rejected them.


These males might not have sisters; but I would suspect that their first experience with females was with their mother. But then, again, the Oedipus thing might factor in.
 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
3. In a related article
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 01:46 PM
Jul 2014

Rushie asks if anybody has seen his penis, because he has not in a long time. Some times pill popper sometime news man(Ha Ha Ha) is worried that it is not working or maybe gone all together.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. Thus, if Rush was poor, no one would ever have sex with him.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 01:53 PM
Jul 2014

Too bad. So sad. As it's going, his honeymoons are running about $100 million per.

abakan

(1,819 posts)
6. Gee and I always thought...
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 01:55 PM
Jul 2014

It was because he has to pay them to have sex with him! Personally there would never be enough money in the world and I'm sure I'm not alone.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
8. He has to pay them to be quiet, I bet.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 02:01 PM
Jul 2014

He pays them to stay married to him for 3-5 years. Then they get a nice settlement including hush money.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
21. According to his former college room mate, Rush is a closeted male.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jul 2014

He said they used to have sex together all the time, and he guarantees that none of Rush's marriages were ever consummated. It's all for show. A front.

Ad wasn't he fired from a Pittsburgh radio show, in his early days, for propositioning men outside a gay bar?

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
9. Too bad the article has Rush in the title
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jul 2014

It really is interesting and well written-- but the opportunity to make fun of Limbaugh is hard to resist

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
13. But intriguing nonetheless
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 02:45 PM
Jul 2014

I'm not sure I buy it, except possibly the 'catching up with the time' implication

d_r

(6,907 posts)
20. yeah that's fair enough
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 03:25 PM
Jul 2014

and I think there is good value in thinking and discussing these sorts of findings.

I just wish she'd framed her argument in a different way. but that's me.

mopinko

(70,127 posts)
12. my take too. fear of the cuckhold is deep, and the evolutionary reasons are strong.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 02:43 PM
Jul 2014

male involvement with a small number of offspring is a risky business. it requires a high level of trust.
some people arent smart enough to override their amygdala.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
16. this is precisely why "beliefs" have no place in secular society
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 03:03 PM
Jul 2014

In places like the supreme court, congress, and the white house. How about looking at the cold hard facts instead?

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
22. I think this extrapolates a little...
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:02 PM
Jul 2014

They saying it's the desire for paternal certainty that causes the change in attitudes.

Could it just as easily be the belief that if a woman is financially independent, the financial consequences of an unintended pregnancy are milder than they would be for a woman who is not financially independent. These people might just be subconsciously stating the belief that a financially independent woman can afford the consequences of her actions, while a financially dependent woman cannot.

Or to put it another way -- Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
24. Folks, you're reading too much into this
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:12 PM
Jul 2014

It's what you'd expect - he's catering to his old-broken-dick audience. That's why his ads are mostly about broken-dick pills, hoarding goods and the rest of that old fogie shit.

And it's not due to his "lost advertisers". His show has always had that string of sponsorship for over 20 years.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
26. Well, science discusses and probes and studies gas giants, so why not?
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 05:56 PM
Jul 2014

Why shouldn't science weigh in on this, then?

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