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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCancel womens' right to vote based on the Bible? re:Pittsburgh Post Gazette LTTE.
http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/letters/2014/07/08/If-the-Bible-says-women-should-be-silent-should-we-cancel-their-right-to-vote/stories/201407080073whatthehey
(3,660 posts)Warpy
(111,277 posts)If you try to strip of us the human rights we fought for and won, you will taste the poison in your dinner.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Warpy
(111,277 posts)It used to be "good luck to you and the Red Sox" because the Red Sox would be close to winning the playoffs and choke, year after year, proof of an orderly universe. Then they started to win things and Bostonians were torn between pride for the home team and the loss of predictability in their lives.
At least the Cubs are still predictable. Treasure it. You would feel the loss as keenly as I do.
WovenGems
(776 posts)This is a good argument for why religion has no place in public policy.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I guess you would have to have a town or a county pass a local law taking away the right of women to vote, and then get it challenged in the courts? But even then, if the Supreme Court heard it and if they approved the law it still wouldn't go to the federal right of women to vote.
Bryant
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)that should be so far from relying on jurisdictional niceties to avoid being seriously considered as to be invisible from sanity, along with pretty much any other biblical codswallop vomited gleefully up to take advantage of SCOTUS' incipient theocracy.
But it's ok as long as there are some legal obstacles clinging on by the fingernails eh?
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I do think that the Hobby Lobby Case was decided wrongly. I'm just interested in how such proposals (like this one or the one about burning witch's or the one about no longer hiring women) would actually proceed. What tactics would those who want to see more theocratic government use?
Bryant
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)70's, in one form or another. They demand the right to discriminate for decades, now recently they are upping the ante asking to be allowed to refuse service to LGBT people on 'religious grounds' and of course, refusing to follow the regulations about Federal Contractors not discriminating.
The entire basis of all discrimination against LGBT people is religious. That's the whole of it. The opposition is organized religion, much like organized crime, multigenerational and with tactics suited to those always in power and thus enabled to play the long game.
The same crowd has opposed the ERA ratification for decades. Long game, then endgame.
If you establish that 'The Bible Says It' is the foundation for law, then face it, the NT says women must be subservient to all men and submissive to her husband, silent in gatherings, modestly dressed and never must a woman have authority over a man. It's Biblical, like being anti gay or not killing babies. The US has freedom of religion, my religion says I can not promote a woman above a man, in fact is says I can not hire any woman. It's religious freedom. It's Biblical.
Warpy
(111,277 posts)and good luck to them getting 3/4 of the states to ratify that abomination, women still able to vote until and unless it passed.
derby378
(30,252 posts)My religious belief says that the Bible didn't say that, since it's a book. Paul might have said that, but hey, I didn't see him in the Gospels discoursing with Jesus on the Mount of Olives, did I?
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Some of them may have said ...fuck it ...were doing this anyway ...and that's what I think they did.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Which is why the decision is so confusingly written and argued. That is one of the many things wrong with this decision.
They clearly wanted to say "Yes Hobby Lobby gets what they want, but we don't want this to lead any place that would be embarrassing."
Bryant
Brigid
(17,621 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)at least I hope so.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)I know so many love to comment without actually reading the article and I guess some could read it and think it was sincere. If they were kind of slow or something.
Seems to me an obvious skewering of the SC's awful HL decision.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)AlinPA
(15,071 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)the Bible.