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Anyone else tempted to do this (Hobby Lobby) (Original Post) tabbycat31 Jul 2014 OP
You realize, of course....... WillowTree Jul 2014 #1
No they mercuryblues Jul 2014 #2
Stop spreading that misinformation. WillowTree Jul 2014 #4
Thank you. 840high Jul 2014 #7
the entire mandate mercuryblues Jul 2014 #5
Ridiculous Dayton L. Kitchens Jul 2014 #3
No. nt Llewlladdwr Jul 2014 #6

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
1. You realize, of course.......
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:32 PM
Jul 2014

.......that such juvenile actions would only serve to hassle Hobby Lobby's employees, not the people behind the birth control issue. The people in the stores have nothing to do with that. They're the ones who are getting coverage for 16 instead of all 20 forms of
BC mandated by ACA.

You do realize that, don't you?

mercuryblues

(14,548 posts)
2. No they
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 02:40 PM
Jul 2014

are not getting coverage for ANY contraception. NONE. that is an outright lie. The whole mandate was struck down.

All a company has to do is say contraception is against their religion and do not want to provide insurance coverage for it.

90% of companies are privately held.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
4. Stop spreading that misinformation.
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:00 PM
Jul 2014

The court ruling says that such religiously-motivated employers are not required to provide any form of birth control which is in conflict with their beliefs. Therefore, an employer may exclude any or all forms of contraception. It in no way prevents an employer from covering some, but not all forms of BC. Hobby Lobby never asked to be exempted from covering all forms, only the four that they consider to be "abortifacients", which are drugs that prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus wall and IUDs, which serve the same purpose.

But the ruling doesn't require any employer to take an "all or nothing" approach, it only allows them to. Those are two very different things.

Even if you were correct, however, what the OP is suggesting still only impacts the employees negatively, not the owners.

mercuryblues

(14,548 posts)
5. the entire mandate
Fri Jul 4, 2014, 03:32 PM
Jul 2014

Under RFRA, a Government action that imposes a substantial burden on religious exercise must serve a compelling government interest, and we assume that the HHS regulations satisfy this requirement. But in order for the HHS mandate to be sustained, it must also constitute the least restrictive means of serving that interest, and the mandate plainly fails that test. There are other ways in which Congress or HHS could equally ensure that every woman has cost-free access to the particular contraceptives at issue here and, indeed, to all FDA-approved contraceptives.

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