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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy brother in law who is a right winger told me I was a loser who's sucking off tax payer money
By putting my son with autism in a group home.
My 92 year of Mother with dementia lives in her own home. I have a great network of caregivers who are Fijian who care for her. My mother also has a rental home she and my Dad brought in the 70's that we use to supplement her income. My older sister will be inheriting the home and I will inherit my Mother's main home she resides in. I do everything and have a conservatorship of my Mother's affairs. Today my Mothers sisters were visiting and asked to have a luncheon at my mothers home. I arranged with he caregiver and paid another person to make sure the house was clean and in order. My sister and hubby went to the rental house and complained it was run down and I needed to put money into it. I told my brother in law I needed to conserve the money for my Mother's care and the only money I would spend was to keep the main residence my Mother resided in and if they wanted to upgrade the rental they should pay As my sister is inheriting the house. My BIL inherited at least 5 million from his Mother and I told him my Mothers estate was small compared to his Mother's. He blew up at me and told me I was attacking his mother. It got ugly but I stood my ground and said if they wanted to put money into the rental they should pay. I would do reasonable repairs like cutting down a tree and repairing the sidewalk but I was not going to pay for paint etc. now I have asked my sister numerous times to help me manage this rental house which has fallen on deaf ears. I manage my Mother's bills, the hiring caregivers, care for my son's group home ,still am dealing with the closure of my late bosses business, and handle my own household expenses.
But today my right wing Everyday fox business rich asshole brother in law told me I was a loser who abandoned
My mongoloid idiot son to an institution burdening tax payers and I was the one who was wrong. Now I had apologized to my brother in law for the " supposed" insult to his mother. I never said anything disparaging about his mother but pointed out my mother's money is small compared to his mother's millions. And he lost it. There were a lot of witnesses there. My mother, her 2 sisters, my cousins wife, my sister ( who was horrified but scared at the same time ) and he unloaded with his accusing me I abandoning my son and warehousing him. My husband and I bring our son home every other weekend. It had become difficult to keep our son home. But the words out of my brother in law were so appalling.This man was there the day my son was born. It made me speechless,hearing the cruelty of his statement so inhumane. The rest of the party I did not engage him. He made sounds when I passed him and gave me dirty looks but I decided that that day with my 92 year old mother and her 3 remaining sibling was more important than dealing with a jerk. He and my sister left not long after and after that we all had a good time looking at old pictures. But I feel sadness my sister missed out on looking at the pictures of the woman G.
A pox on our society is extreme right wing media it makes people think about more hateful things than they normally would.
Gman
(24,780 posts)I shut up the wingers with that.
If he's rude enoughto talk that crap, the only thing he 'll understand back is even more rude.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)It seems the only thing they 'get' is when you are an asshole back (most of the time they are shocked, just SHOCKED that a wimpy treehugging liberal has the guts to do that) or if you laugh your ass off at them. I do that more just because it's more satisfying to make them feel like the small minded insignificant people they are. And it doesn't get my blood pressure overly high.
what I would've said to laugh at them would be something like, "you think *I* am wasting taxpayers dollars? hahahahahaha! Boy have they got YOU snowed! Do you know how much money corporations get from the government? They could put the whole population of the US in a group home! They've got you thinking *I'm* the one taking your money and you bought right into it, just like the corporations want you to believe. Hahaha, they're treating you like you're an idiot and you just lap it up like one. Maybe they aren't so wrong after all? hahaha, you are as dumb as they think you are!"
Of course I always say those things in a light hearted 'joking' manner so if they get all 'offended' I just say, "Oh, shucks, I was just joking! I didn't know you were so sensitive! I guess you do have a bleeding heart after all!"
Can I just say my right wing relatives don't talk politics with me anymore?
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)It really reflects a kind of maturity over GOPers that makes them look like children.
I often talk this way to my Right Wing Radio listening older brother. It gets the message across without starting a fight so they have to just sit there and take it.
I don't bother with equivocation of both sides. I treat it like a cult. I tell my brother straight out he's brainwashed but we're going to get him help and how lucky he is I'm around to stop him from donning a tri-cornered hat and a musket.
Gman
(24,780 posts)He was singing the praises of Ayn Rand. He had annoyed the crap out of me a year ago so when I saw him I just lit into him. He was taken aback at first and then just kept going. The other people being oblivious about Ayn Rand where a bit put out with me but I don't care.
Squinch
(51,058 posts)another second.
Onlooker
(5,636 posts)This is how so many right wingers are. Everything is about money. Your mother's care is taking their money. Your son's care is taking their money. You're inability do more on the rental home is taking away their money. They don't understand what human decency is. He doesn't understand that your priorities are human -- caring for your mom and son, doing what you can, not only with money, but with time and compassion too. Your brother in law has no other measure of fairness than money; he doesn't realize how shallow a person he is. It's really rather pathetic. Your mother and son are so lucky to have you.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)..5 million just doesn't go as far as it used to. Seriously though, I'm a bit confused, who unloaded on you today? Was it just your brother or all of them? Or did your brother unload while they all listened shellshocked?
Tell the prick if he's so concerned about his hard earned (sarcasm) tax dollars helping out your son then perhaps it would be best if you just sold that extra house your sister is going to get to help pay for his bills. That way it wouldn't cause a burden to the taxpayer, and that's just what he wants, right? I would so looooooove to see his reaction.
And by the way, your efforts are admirable, I just hope at least someone in your family realizes this.
madaboutharry
(40,236 posts)He is the loser. He is full of venom and hate. He is dead and miserable inside. He is a fucking piece of shit asshole. And he is a bully.
Man, I don't even know him but it sure feels good talking about him like this.
As for you, you seem like a kind and loving person. The best thing to do if you can't cut a person completely out of your life is to ignore their existence as much as possible.
Bigmack
(8,020 posts)This person is not a blood relative.... and IS an asshole.
Why waste valuable time even thinking about him?
He's told you what he thinks of you, but since he's an asshole, his opinion doesn't count for much.
I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire, myself.
kimbutgar
(21,226 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)they normally would be. I have two former HS friends who were really good people with great families. Somehow over the years they got addicted to the RW noise machine that is by design geared to inspire all of the negative emotions. They are no longer close to the same people I knew and respected. One I was especially close to now posts several times a day on FB. One out of ten posts are positive, usually about his kids or his 5th grade students, the rest are so NEGATIVE AND ANGRY it makes me sick! It is no longer about individual issues with him, he swallows ALL of their talking points and is so angry he cannot listen to reason or have much of a civil discourse. You certainly cannot have a debate about something, and he was always great at debating.
They have designed a psy-ops program to reprogram Americans! I almost cannot believe something so bizarre if I didn't know them so well before. They have been psychologically reprogrammed!
Sick man, sick!
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,156 posts)Then shake your head, laugh, and walk away.
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)difference. Ask the parents of the dead Sandy Hook children if we made a difference with the background checks for assault weapons that 91% of Americans said they wanted. That alone should tell you that the corrupting influence of campaign cash has affected both parties! Ask Bernie Sanders what is wrong with our parties. I for one will not be deluded by Hope & Change again! Washington is a cesspool that coats almost every politician that goes there with dirty money.
I respect the hard work that many who support the DNC do, I have done it myself. But I have watched, learned and seen what goes on behind the curtain and we are being played. I hope enough are fed up with the open corruption to decide to do something about it. I hope you change your mind about it as well, but I have no quarrel with you. Peace.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,156 posts)I'm advising not to let brainwashed people be taken seriously. Debate doesn't work. Facts don't work. Maybe laughing in their face will catch them off guard. And laughter is great medicine to boot. Lowers blood pressure and adds years to your life.
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)I am having back surgery Monday and feel miserable. I was up late and really disgusted with the state of things. Now I have wonderful coffee a some sleep and feel better. Thought you were attacking me for these views which I do stick by, even in the light of day. Happy 4th!
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,156 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)the abyss of a dark government and dark, hateful society.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)possesses only feelings of hatred and blame, Id explain to my sister that as much as I cared for her..Humanity comes first and that her husbands horrible non-caring, couldnt give a shit about people who are less fortunate, is just too much for me to handle.. He hurts so many in our universe..
Contrary1
(12,629 posts)didn't bring in quite enough money, so you skipped Plan B and went directly on to Plan C.
Plan B, of course is the other Repub option...you know, the one where the family members with more take care of the fellow family members with less. (Or some similar bullshit)
alp227
(32,065 posts)If so ask him: How can you deny compassion and care for autistic people at the same time?
pansypoo53219
(21,004 posts)typical.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)for your BIL being an asshole. That's letting him off the hook. He's an asshole because he's an asshole. Do the bare minimum for the rental house. Leave the cosmetic stuff alone.
mountain grammy
(26,659 posts)Your brother in law has no soul. I have a brother in law like that too, but he prays for us while he hates us for being liberal.
conservaphobe
(1,284 posts)padfun
(1,790 posts)people like that can be dangerous in certain situations, especially where alcohol is served.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)You take care of so much. You give of yourself and you do love in the real sense. I celebrate you.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The brother-in-law's haste to take offense about his inheritance makes me think the brother-in-law has some issues of his own about his departed mother, the wad of money he came into, and his perception about the security of his position. Easy come, easy go, as is sometimes said. Brother-in-law may also not be managing his inheritance very well. Maybe he invested heavily in Goldline because Glenn Beck told him to.
I think this issue is a lot bigger than a run-down rental.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)savalez
(3,517 posts)Cut him off but don't make a big deal about it. Just limit your communication with him to just absolutely necessary stuff. That way you can still see your sister. Trust me, that's the best way to go on this.
But he does owe you an apology and if by some miracle he offers one (don't hold your breathe, right wingers rarely do) accept it and move on. In the meantime don't waste time worrying about something an "in law" says.
mia
(8,363 posts)I'm sorry you have the additional burden of a sociopathic brother-in-law.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
bemildred
(90,061 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)For some sick reason, Conservatives have lost their humanity. For a group that hold up the Christian bible as something they base there lives on, they don't show any proof that they do.
Dorian Gray
(13,514 posts)that you love her but how he spoke to you was unacceptable and you won't speak with him anymore.
IronLionZion
(45,574 posts)Try to limit communication with the dude and avoid engaging if he starts some shit. "I got mine, F other people" is the foundation of GOP values.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)This sounds and looks like verbal abuse. This guy needs to be taken down a few notches. I like laundry-queen's tactics but I'd also confront your brother-in-law about his melt down and tell him it was unacceptable and that the other family members can react as they wish but, as far as you're concerned, his presence is no longer welcomed in this family. Say it explicitly: I do not welcome you in this family. I am against your presence in our family and I will not attend any functions in which you are allowed, unless I'm offered to attend divorce proceedings or as a witness against you in court.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)I'm sorry your family has been infected.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)Were it me, sister or no, I would cut him out of my life as much as possible.
People who refuse to show me basic respect are not allowed in my life. Period.
It isn't the media's fault - he is the one who listens to it and swallows it and embraces the hate.
rug
(82,333 posts)Fortunately, you're not me.
Bigmack
(8,020 posts)Upon reflection.. and reading the other posts....
What about mental illness?
That wouldn't change the situation, but it may explain it. Maybe it's not the RW noise machine that made him this way... maybe it's just that the RW noise machine better fits his mental status at this point.
If he's angry, maybe the anger comes from within, and hearing the angry RW screamers makes him feel more secure and validates his mental state.
NOT a shrink, but ....
I would definitely not confront him, tho.
Jazzgirl
(3,744 posts)I would've slapped the shit out of him!
hatrack
(59,594 posts)Anybody who is so blatantly hateful, ignorant and cruel to someone in his own freaking family isn't worth your time.
Life is short enough without devoting irreplaceable minutes of your life to dealing with spiteful, vengeful ass-feathers like this guy.
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n2doc
(47,953 posts)"I wonder how many of your tax dollars I am scamming this week?" and walk away, laughing .
Drew Richards
(1,558 posts)Give him a wake up call on his behavior...i would ask EVERYONE that was present to request restraining orders and or tell him or you sister he is no longer welcome in there presence or on their property.
It doesnt matter if he might never go to their homes its the uniform exclusion and voiced repugnance of his actions that might make him take stock of his disgusting behavior.