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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 02:47 PM Jul 2014

The GOP-Controlled South Is Essentially A Solid, Grim Block Of Poverty

The South Is Essentially A Solid, Grim Block Of Poverty
By Mark Gongloff


The Great Recession and Not-So-Great Recovery have been bad news for most Americans, but some people have suffered more than others. We call those people "Southerners."

North Carolina and a handful of other Southern U.S. states saw the biggest increases in the number of people living in what are known as "poverty areas" between 2000 and 2010, according to a new Census Bureau report. Poverty areas are places where more than 20 percent of the people live below the federal poverty line, which varies by family size. For a family of four, the poverty line in most states is an annual income of $23,850.

Today, 25.7 percent of all Americans live in such areas, up from 18.1 percent in 2000, according to the report. Having a quarter of the nation living this way is a problem: Poverty areas are typically marked by "higher crime rates, poor housing conditions, and fewer job opportunities," the report points out.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/02/poverty-increase-map_n_5548577.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics
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The GOP-Controlled South Is Essentially A Solid, Grim Block Of Poverty (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 OP
It's weird how people vote against themselves Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2014 #1
I think it is more a lack of voting more than it is voting against their own interests. Bandit Jul 2014 #16
Is it low turnout? Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2014 #18
Another "Mission Accomplished" by the GOP. Viva_Daddy Jul 2014 #2
The Rural South, maybe n2doc Jul 2014 #3
Averaged by overall state population. nt onehandle Jul 2014 #5
I'm not sure I agree with that n2doc. I live in Jacksonville, FL and the poverty rate is 16.1% Lochloosa Jul 2014 #7
Jax is a strange place n2doc Jul 2014 #8
Why then do they keep voting for the one group that keeps them poor? liberal N proud Jul 2014 #4
Because the Repubs appeal to their prejudices and fears n2doc Jul 2014 #6
Yes ALBliberal Jul 2014 #10
Kentucky suffers from abysmal education Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #13
... napkinz Jul 2014 #17
Progressive* California is in the second tier KamaAina Jul 2014 #9
yeah, but we can't south bash them Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #11
My OP is not South Bashing Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #14
I know that Puzzledtraveller Jul 2014 #15
But there's no socialism or gays, so yeah, take that, you dirty libs. ck4829 Jul 2014 #12
Maybe, but cost of living matters cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #19

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
16. I think it is more a lack of voting more than it is voting against their own interests.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 04:24 PM
Jul 2014

I would think the rest of America should realize though that states controlled completely by Republicans have the largest portion of poor and unemployed. That alone should tell people about Republican economics..

Lochloosa

(16,064 posts)
7. I'm not sure I agree with that n2doc. I live in Jacksonville, FL and the poverty rate is 16.1%
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 03:11 PM
Jul 2014

Pushing the 20% mark.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
8. Jax is a strange place
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 03:15 PM
Jul 2014

It has one of the largest footprints of any city I know (San Antonio is another). Maybe it gets a lot of rural poor?

Urban poor tend to vote D. That's one reason why Atlanta proper (and Savannah) is a big D stronghold. But I see a lot of prosperity in the cities, mostly, and rural areas that still look like they did 50 years ago, except more stores are closed. Maybe that's just me.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
4. Why then do they keep voting for the one group that keeps them poor?
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 02:51 PM
Jul 2014

I have been for a long, long time trying to figure out why people vote against their own best interest.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
6. Because the Repubs appeal to their prejudices and fears
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 02:55 PM
Jul 2014

Keep people stupid, fearful and angry, and you can manipulate them into anything. In the south, that mean making sure all problems are blamed on 'lazy blacks' and 'immigrants'. Since those two groups are always present, the lack of progress is always blamed on them. And on Obama, which for t-baggers means the same thing.

ALBliberal

(2,342 posts)
10. Yes
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 03:18 PM
Jul 2014

It's in uneducated people's nature to strive to be better than at least some other group. This will never change unless people are educated. Sociology 101 really.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
13. Kentucky suffers from abysmal education
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 03:23 PM
Jul 2014

the Appalachia areas are some of the poorest in the nation, a major factor also is a declining coal industry. Many large job creators pass up states like mine, education is a very big part of these decisions. I do casework for the state.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
14. My OP is not South Bashing
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 03:25 PM
Jul 2014

It's GOP bashing.

Big difference.

Also, if you look at the 'Poverty On The Rise' graph at the link, you will see that poverty is increasing at a MUCH slower rate in New York and California while poverty is increasing at a very fast pace in much of the GOP-controlled the South.

Just the facts.

cerveza_gratis

(281 posts)
19. Maybe, but cost of living matters
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:24 PM
Jul 2014

I would much rather be just below the poverty cutoff in one of the blue Southern states than just above it in a green Northeast state, financially speaking anyway.

Edited to add: On second thought, even though income goes farther in the South, a lot of those states don't have the same healthcare etc. So, maybe not.

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