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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 06:40 AM Jul 2014

I knew it, I knew it, I knew it! Seniors moments vindicated

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/27/1309936/-I-knew-it-I-knew-it-I-knew-it-Seniors-moments-vindicated

New.Ever walk into a room, stop halfway in, and wonder why you were there..in that room?

Sure you have.

Or forgotten a word for a few minutes? Even a whole phrase?!

These times are laughingly called "seniors moments" or "brain farts" and they happen to most older people. They are, however, damned annoying and embarrassing when they happen... especially in the middle of a conversation and there you are saying" ohh, you know that thing where..."

You can't remember where your keys are more times than you care to count, nor what you had for supper two nights ago. Sometimes you forget your dog's name ..or worse..your wife's!

A recent study by Dr Michael Ramscar and a team of linguistic researchers from the University of Tubingen, Germany have found that the older brain has accumulated so much information during the course of a lifetime, that it's simply slower because the brain has to sift through all that info to find the answer

Think that's funny youngsters? The news isn't good for you either. Memory begins to slip at age 25...and keeps on slipping. At 25 you've reached your prime. It's all downhill from there.

Now comes a new kind of challenge to the evidence of a cognitive decline, from a decidedly digital quarter: data mining, based on theories of information processing. In a paper published in Topics in Cognitive Science, a team of linguistic researchers from the University of Tübingen in Germany used advanced learning models to search enormous databases of words and phrases.

Since educated older people generally know more words than younger people, simply by virtue of having been around longer, the experiment simulates what an older brain has to do to retrieve a word. And when the researchers incorporated that difference into the models, the aging “deficits” largely disappeared
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I knew it, I knew it, I knew it! Seniors moments vindicated (Original Post) eridani Jul 2014 OP
Hey! that's what I have been telling my children OKNancy Jul 2014 #1
This is so true. I have to forget something old every time I want to learn something new! Scuba Jul 2014 #2
Gee. Thanks for the earworm. Arkansas Granny Jul 2014 #4
Could be worse ... Scuba Jul 2014 #5
Seriously one of my favorite shower songs of all time. trumad Jul 2014 #7
... Enthusiast Jul 2014 #15
I totally agree. Here's another fab-fab-fab song. valerief Jul 2014 #23
Gee..... I had that 45 when I was a kid! Jazzgirl Jul 2014 #34
Arrrgh!! Now you've done it. Arkansas Granny Jul 2014 #16
Yeah, that was kind of mean. Here, maybe this will help .... Scuba Jul 2014 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author valerief Jul 2014 #24
I've never been able to shake "knock on any Norge" (bud-duh, bum-bum!). AAO Jul 2014 #18
Boy I hear ya! MindPilot Jul 2014 #36
Oh yeah! AAO Jul 2014 #38
CRS is normal, it's when CRAFT starts you have a problem. hobbit709 Jul 2014 #3
Thank you Urban Dictionary. Scuba Jul 2014 #8
Ah, I knew CRS. CRAFT is new to me--but quite obvious now that I looked up the meaning. nt valerief Jul 2014 #12
I once knew my2sense Jul 2014 #14
I'm cognizant of this and say so. But processing speed is an issue few understand. And prioritizing. freshwest Jul 2014 #6
What is it we're talking about?? Oh yeah, sorry....n/t monmouth3 Jul 2014 #9
Fragmented hard drive. Gman Jul 2014 #10
Doesn't help if you're running Vista. progressoid Jul 2014 #22
Sometimes I feel like windows 3.1 Gman Jul 2014 #28
I'm running DOS Gormy Cuss Jul 2014 #29
OMG, I've said that for years! As you get older, retrieving info is like trying to navigate a valerief Jul 2014 #11
Seems, then, that the trick would be to get busy forgetting stuff... Squinch Jul 2014 #13
I have always been a big fan of doing just that. ieoeja Jul 2014 #27
Republican voters don't seem to have much of a problem forgetting stuff. Elwood P Dowd Jul 2014 #32
My problem seems to be senior moments compounded by blonde moments. Arkansas Granny Jul 2014 #17
Like I was sayin' Fuddnik Jul 2014 #19
I was going to make a comment... Javaman Jul 2014 #21
Seniors, hell - began for me a long time ago packman Jul 2014 #25
I've always said it was because my discs were full The Blue Flower Jul 2014 #26
It began for me LWolf Jul 2014 #30
Thanks for this-- at 60 I'm juggling 7 book projects and can't remember what day it is carolinayellowdog Jul 2014 #31
You'll wonder where the yellow went when you brush your teeth with Pepsodent n/t eridani Jul 2014 #33
What a relief!! MindPilot Jul 2014 #35
So I guess I shouldn't be proud of having a good memory... Rhiannon12866 Jul 2014 #37
You should feel blessed. If you are not religious, you should just feel thankful. AAO Jul 2014 #39
I feel both! Thank you! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2014 #40
Now that I'm older, I know that I'm much more interesting. Ilsa Jul 2014 #41

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
1. Hey! that's what I have been telling my children
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 06:45 AM
Jul 2014

My main irritation is recalling names. Not names of people I know, but usually movie or tv people.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. This is so true. I have to forget something old every time I want to learn something new!
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 06:46 AM
Jul 2014

Why can't I just erase all those old TV commercial jingles from the 1950's? Do I really need to know "Mr. Clean will clean your whole house and everything that's in it!"?

valerief

(53,235 posts)
23. I totally agree. Here's another fab-fab-fab song.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:05 AM
Jul 2014


On edit:
I just realized that the lyrics to this song could be construed as 'stalkerish'. Ha!

Response to Scuba (Reply #20)

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
36. Boy I hear ya!
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 07:56 PM
Jul 2014

"Suddenly it's Springtime!"

"see the USA..."

"Winston tastes good..."


But I'm not real sure where I left my car.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
38. Oh yeah!
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 04:04 PM
Jul 2014

Nice to know someone from my generation still has a memory! My Dad has Alzheimer's but still remembers details of his childhood, which I will admit is more than I've got! Thanks MindPilot. Keep keepin' on!

my2sense

(2,645 posts)
14. I once knew
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:13 AM
Jul 2014

what CRS was although today I had to look it up. . CRAFT is a new one. I'll be using it quite often.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
11. OMG, I've said that for years! As you get older, retrieving info is like trying to navigate a
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 08:02 AM
Jul 2014

hoarder's house.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
27. I have always been a big fan of doing just that.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 11:51 AM
Jul 2014

I do not remember nearly as much about my childhood as do my siblings. A lot of the things they remember are incredibly inane. I often wonder why they bothered retaining it.

Of course, they did pretty much remain "down home" while I moved off to Chicago. I have probably accumulated a lot more experiences and need to make room for more. Reminiscing is a major hobby of theirs. "Remember when...", they ask to which I respond, "no, why would I".

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
32. Republican voters don't seem to have much of a problem forgetting stuff.
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 05:35 PM
Jul 2014

Their favorite politicians have been fucking them over for years, but its totally forgotten by the time the polls open every election cycle.

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
26. I've always said it was because my discs were full
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 09:59 AM
Jul 2014

Funny that the research now agrees with me. I'm 65, btw.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
30. It began for me
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jul 2014

at about age 40, when a skull fracture and severe frontal lobe concussion interfered with memory. I had to learn new paths to where information, including words, were stored. My son described it well to someone: "It's like you dumped out everything in her filing cabinet and threw it all around the room. It's still there, it's just harder to find.

When I first got home from the hospital, I would get frustrated because I couldn't remember a word, and have to find a circular way to say what I needed to. I looked at the many walls of books and didn't remember reading any of them. So I went through them all one at a time again. At some point, sometimes early, sometimes late, I'd "find" the memory of that story. I also found my vocabulary. It took about a year to feel fully "recovered," but I've had those frustrating "can't find it" moments ever since.

Not quite the same as aging, but a similar process to find the information.

These days I've got both, lol.

carolinayellowdog

(3,247 posts)
31. Thanks for this-- at 60 I'm juggling 7 book projects and can't remember what day it is
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 04:04 PM
Jul 2014

I looked forward to feeling less overwhelmed and distracted in retirement. Might have worked if I could say no to "would you contribute a chapter to this collection... co-edit this project... serve as an officer on this board..." etc. But at least I won't worry that it's driving me into early senility-- just slowing down my processing along with all those useless old memories!

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
41. Now that I'm older, I know that I'm much more interesting.
Thu Jul 3, 2014, 04:32 PM
Jul 2014

But I don't remember how that fits in with the OP.

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