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United Nations ?@UN 21mNews: 100% of declared chemical weapons materials destroyed or removed from Syria http://j.mp/1pai7md
23 June 2014 The Joint Mission welcomes the removal of the remaining 7.2 per cent of chemical weapons material from the Syrian Arab Republic. With this last movement, the total of declared chemical weapons materials destroyed or removed from Syria has reached 100%. The most operationally challenging task within the effort to eliminate the Syrian chemical weapons programme, has come to an end.
In addition to the completion of the removal operation, the Syrian Arab Republic has destroyed all declared production, mixing and filling equipment and munitions, as well as many buildings associated with its declared chemical weapons programme. With the exception of twelve production facilities that are awaiting a decision by the Executive Council of OPCW, all of the declared Syrian chemical weapons programme has been eliminated in an unprecedented timeframe and under uniquely challenging conditions.
read: http://opcw.unmissions.org/AboutOPCWUNJointMission/tabid/54/ctl/Details/mid/651/ItemID/325/Default.aspx
. . . yeah, I severely doubted this would happen.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Peacetrain
(22,878 posts)With the right person it can be done.. that is why letting the republicans and libertarians and tea party. etc.. anywhere near the White House is always always always a DISASTER.. that we have to go back in and clean up again and again and again..
cynzke
(1,254 posts)to clean up the next GOP DISASTER!
progressoid
(49,998 posts)Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons
Cha
(297,617 posts)progressoid
(49,998 posts)Cha
(297,617 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)but of course, credit will never be given to the Russians for anything good.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)interest on the part of the Russians. ONLY after the US threat of a limited strike and Kerry PUBLICLY (not behind closed doors) saying that that was what it would take to make the US NOT attack that the Russians were interested.
Russia had the leverage to demand it. Syria is their client state and they had no desire to do so. Do you really think it a coincidence that it happened after Kerry spoke of it?
It is not Russia who often gets no credit for anything good here. They get plenty especially since Snowden made his home there. It is rare that Kerry ever gets credit here -- but there is a long line to parse every sentence he says to "prove" he is doing something wrong. It is less rare, but still too rare that Obama gets the credit.
The fact is the entire right blames Kerry and Obama for NOT striking Syria.
William769
(55,147 posts)And no I am not going to be the one to count them (because it's to damn many to keep up with).
bigtree
(86,005 posts). . . NOTHING happens in government without pressure from the people.
Remember, in this case, Congress responded to the President first to his request for authorization to stage military strikes. President Obama insisted all along that he had the authority to strike Syria without pre-approval from Congress, and, there are more than a handful of Democrats in the congressional and Senate leadership who echoed the administration's insistence in their initial rush to war with Syria that they wouldn't wait indefinitely before launching their military response.
Thousands of Americans spoke out and called their legislators (and the White House) and urged them against military action.
Kudos to the president for following the will of the people that the U.S. refrain from military action in Syria and rely on international and diplomatic solutions; not unilateral military measures like the president originally pushed for.
William769
(55,147 posts)I should have worded it better.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Seriously, what would improve it?
William769
(55,147 posts)That the naysayers at least acknowledge it instead of going silent waiting for the next moment to pounce? Better?
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:43 PM - Edit history (1)
Hard to tell: did Obama have a strategy or win the lottery?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)bigtree
(86,005 posts). . . 'soft power', 'big stick', gunboat diplomacy lite.
Who knows what the President would have done, though, if Putin hadn't stepped in . . . or if Congress had acceded to his initial request for authority to strike?
Flaxbee
(13,661 posts)good friends; Russia didn't want its naval base in Tartus involved in any sort of US-initiated military skirmish (can you imagine the hell that would have been unleashed if something had happened there?), and Putin was able to put enormous pressure on Assad to cooperate.
I think Assad would have continued to give the US the finger if Putin hadn't stepped in... and we all know that the Republicans (McCain et al) can't NOT charge a waving flag...they are completely incapable of thought or restraint, they're all knee-jerk (emphasis on jerk) reactionaries.
Now, I do give Obama MAJOR props for working with Russia and not acceding to the crazies' demands here in the US for military action. Major backbone, there.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)nothing...I detest the American media for the full scale propaganda war they have launched.
bonniebgood
(943 posts)former9thward
(32,074 posts)That could be the reason...
Hekate
(90,787 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The message is that "those people" shouldn't have it because they aren't "civilized" like white people.
This appeals to this type:
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)This pic cracks me up.
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groundloop
(11,522 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I guess you mean a group of people who like to get together and have fun on the weekends. Their smiles hurt me.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)It BELONGS in the mud.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I see how that works. Same tactic has been used against leftist protests forever.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
JI7
(89,264 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)JI7
(89,264 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)JI7
(89,264 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Don't you know that?
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)mwrguy
(3,245 posts)lark
(23,155 posts)Wonder why this isn't at the top of the msm news? I listened for a few min. yesterday and this am and didn't hear a thing about it.
Never mind, silly me. Of course this wouldn't be important to them, no profit to be made for the 1% so nothing to say on the news front.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)I think he has done an excellent job in the area of FP. I truly don't understand what the GOPers are whining about in this regard.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
bigtree
(86,005 posts). . . but there is a new, undefined doctrine of restraint, and a impetus from the administration to robust diplomacy which has characterized this second term. I think that balancing act by the President, at least, deserves notice.
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LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)On this thread moving the goalposts around some. Typical from that lot.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Syria is a 100% failure for the Neocons trying to further enrich the MIC.
Deal with it, warmongers.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)mcar
(42,372 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)The Joint Chiefs, Congress, the American people, some ambiguous intelligence reports, and Putin deserve more praise than Obama for the "not firing a shot" part.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)look absolutely foolish.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)They were absolutely positive that our lame, puppet of a President, would invade Syria.
They were very, very, upset about it.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)they've PROVEN themselves to be foolish
Alex P Notkeaton
(309 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Syria has been under attack by the united states, britain and others for over three years...
RainDog
(28,784 posts)riseabove
(70 posts)You can actually get shit done WITHOUT KILLING PEOPLE?!?!?
Woah, you don't say?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Skittles
(153,185 posts)see how that is done?
Response to Skittles (Reply #67)
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Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Nooowww I getcha
Cha
(297,617 posts)snip//
"The Obama administration was also cautious to make sure that their praise for the removal process completion didnt read as praise for the Syrian government. The world will never forget the loss of the more than 1,400 innocent Syrians senselessly killed with chemical weapons on August 21, 2013, Secretary of State John Kerry said in a statement. The worst of the weapons are gone, but the despicable regime and the crisis it has created remain and require our collective focus.
thinkprogress
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)You could say that progressives went all out to fight Obama on air strikes - they did that. However, there was NO progressive plan to get rid of chemical weapons. Obama had spoken to Putin and Kerry to Lavrov earlier in the year, but Russia had no interest.
Even when Kerry suggested it as an obvious alternative, most here called it a gaffe - which it wasn't. The far left was so angry at Kerry and Obama, that rather than give them any share of the credit, praised only Putin.
Saying no air strikes does not lead to a careful negotiation and plan to get the CW out. Credit should go to Obama, Kerry, Putin, Lavrov, the Un , the group that actually did the removals and even Syria.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)I believe that the American people share the presidents concerns about chemical weapons in Syria and the brutal Assad dictatorship. But, in overwhelming numbers, Vermonters are telling me they want those issues addressed diplomatically by the UN and the international community not by unilateral military action on the part of the U.S."
- Senator Sanders
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)K&R Mr. President.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)tclambert
(11,087 posts)SunSeeker
(51,678 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)when he does something right. I think anybody here would.
I reserve the right to complain about him if I wish, but it's always good to see him doing something I like.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)K&r
Arkana
(24,347 posts)of defeat on this one.
I'm surprised myself, but very pleased.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I love that by voting I was part of getting this man in the White House. Hell Yeah I say