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eomer

(3,845 posts)
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:28 PM Apr 2012

Unobstructed Zimmerman after-shooting video (MSNBC) shows he had no wound on the back of his head.

Here is a version from MSNBC of the after-shooting video:

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10915887-police-video-shows-george-zimmerman-shortly-after-trayvon-martin-shooting

A small logo does not get in the way (for the most part), in contrast with ABC's ridiculously large and badly-placed logo that obstructs the view of most of the useful footage.

From this video it is clear that Zimmerman had no wound on the back of his head and that what the ABC "enhanced" version purports to show is really just a defect or video artifact.

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Unobstructed Zimmerman after-shooting video (MSNBC) shows he had no wound on the back of his head. (Original Post) eomer Apr 2012 OP
Trayvon Martin: Enhanced Zimmerman video shows possible head wound Lasher Apr 2012 #1
The officer does look at Zimmerman's head, but does not JDPriestly Apr 2012 #29
At 1:03 in the enhanced video I linked, it sure looks like wounds on the back of his head. Lasher Apr 2012 #36
Can we say Photoshop? n/t cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #2
Which video are you saying is shopped? HiPointDem Apr 2012 #16
The ABC Enhanced Video cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #24
I truely think is was a Photoshop filter and not a forensic filter. slampoet Apr 2012 #28
Good. I can't understand why some networks are trying to cover for Z ecstatic Apr 2012 #3
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #5
Trayvon wasn't in a gang... Cooley Hurd Apr 2012 #6
It's actually fairly common to go to prison for killing someone arcane1 Apr 2012 #7
Careful. Your agenda is showing... Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #9
Showing? It has been Hanging Out BigTime for days n/t HangOnKids Apr 2012 #21
That agenda got shitcanned! Rex Apr 2012 #33
Yes...Lived in LA for many years cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #13
that's the most ignorant fucking thing I've read to date CatWoman Apr 2012 #14
Well said Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #15
This Johnson Fella Is A Disgrace To The Forum, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2012 #18
agreed, Sir CatWoman Apr 2012 #19
Why that asshole is still here is beyond me. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2012 #20
Me Too HangOnKids Apr 2012 #22
Finally! Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2012 #25
Good Riddance To Filthy Trash HangOnKids Apr 2012 #38
Na na na na, na na na na Rex Apr 2012 #34
Have you had experiences with Freepers? trumad Apr 2012 #17
They keep talking about how grainy ohheckyeah Apr 2012 #4
Standard Practice: Rodney King Video was "Grainy" Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #8
Agreed. And then they took the worst part that has a lot of dark splotches coming and going eomer Apr 2012 #11
"It was taken about four hours after the deadly incident. " arcane1 Apr 2012 #10
This story is old so that detail is outdated and wrong. eomer Apr 2012 #12
It was Z's Attorney who said 4 hours cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #23
They meant 37 minutes pokerfan Apr 2012 #26
Four Hours??? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2012 #32
Not 4 hrs after incident brush Apr 2012 #35
Zimmerman prepares for his court hearing pokerfan Apr 2012 #27
Betcha he loses the buzzcut.... Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #37
The investigators will get the medical reports. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #30
I've been going to Wikipedia to refresh my memory. Lasher Apr 2012 #39
So that is what Zimmerman said he did. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #40
Yes I guess so, in the 'Zimmerman's account of events' section. Lasher Apr 2012 #41
The CCTV video will be irrelevant in the long run ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #31

Lasher

(27,605 posts)
1. Trayvon Martin: Enhanced Zimmerman video shows possible head wound
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:40 PM
Apr 2012
In the twisting and turning controversy surrounding the Trayvon Martin shooting, even evidence that appeared to support one side last week can tell a different story this week.

A newly enhanced version of surveillance video from the night the teenager was shot in Sanford more clearly shows a possible gash or injury on the back of shooter George Zimmerman's head.

ABC News on Monday debuted the new video in which an apparent wound of some kind can be seen on Zimmerman's head when he turns away from the camera.

The video is an enhanced version of surveillance tape released by the Sanford Police Department last week. It shows Zimmerman being taken into SPD headquarters after the shooting.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-os-trayvon-martin-video-zimmerman-20120402,0,498809.story

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
29. The officer does look at Zimmerman's head, but does not
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 02:37 PM
Apr 2012

appear to be at all impressed.

Further, note the speed and ease with which Zimmerman walks. If there was a scuffle, it wasn't much and did not last long.

Lasher

(27,605 posts)
36. At 1:03 in the enhanced video I linked, it sure looks like wounds on the back of his head.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 03:54 PM
Apr 2012

But it could be lipstick for all I know. There are plenty here who know for a fact that Zimmerman had no wounds at all.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
24. The ABC Enhanced Video
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:31 PM
Apr 2012

In the enhanced version, it's appears as a scar approximately 3 inches square that appears to have been shaved around it and is shinier than the rest of his head. In the original video, there is no such large shaved area...and it's not too grainy to see the continuity of his buzz cut hair. There is no break/shaved area in his hair...period.

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
28. I truely think is was a Photoshop filter and not a forensic filter.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 02:32 PM
Apr 2012

NOTICE how even the articles don't say this has gone through a forensic filter instead they split their words by saying it is simply enhanced.

ecstatic

(32,717 posts)
3. Good. I can't understand why some networks are trying to cover for Z
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:44 PM
Apr 2012

He killed a minor. Wounds or not, he deserves prison time, at the very least!

Response to ecstatic (Reply #3)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
33. That agenda got shitcanned!
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 03:30 PM
Apr 2012

I am surprised that certain troll made it as far as they did.

All they get is an Honorable Mention.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
13. Yes...Lived in LA for many years
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:11 PM
Apr 2012

and they come in all sizes, shapes, colors, languages and cultures. But in the high end, gated suburbs walking home with iced tea and Skittles, not so much. (and some of them looked a lot like George Zimmerman, too, now that you asked)



 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
34. Na na na na, na na na na
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 03:32 PM
Apr 2012

Let us all sing to the troll as they pack their shit and move back under the bridge!

Na na na na, na na na na na, hey hey...goodbye.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
8. Standard Practice: Rodney King Video was "Grainy"
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:07 PM
Apr 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/14/weekinreview/march-7-13-rodney-king-testifies-from-grainy-video-image-to-flesh-and-blood.html

Wasn't there a comedian at the time who did an "enhanced" Rodney King video where the police are seen calmly reading King his rights and carefully helping him into a squad car?

eomer

(3,845 posts)
11. Agreed. And then they took the worst part that has a lot of dark splotches coming and going
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:10 PM
Apr 2012

so they are clearly just artifacts of the video rather than anything real. From that worst video they "enhanced" just one frame. I bet if they applied the same exact filters to various different frames they would get completely different results. Which is why they didn't do it, of course.


 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
10. "It was taken about four hours after the deadly incident. "
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:10 PM
Apr 2012

That's news to me, I thought it was less time than that

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
23. It was Z's Attorney who said 4 hours
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:20 PM
Apr 2012

What do you do with an uninjured murder suspect for all that time, as we know they didn't take him to a hospital. Perhaps they took him home and let him clean up? Wait for ex-Magistrate Daddy Zimmerman's instructions? They all know each other well.

Earlier news reports said 35-40 minutes, which would seem more likely.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
32. Four Hours???
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 03:27 PM
Apr 2012

But in the video commentary they say 45 minutes. (which seems about right)

Just shows how "accurate" these news shows are about anything.

brush

(53,794 posts)
35. Not 4 hrs after incident
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 03:44 PM
Apr 2012

There are a lot of trolls that are trying to spin the time of the video. it was recorded 30 minutes after the incident, not 4 hrs. And that one frame 'enhancement' is not fooling those of us who use and are familiar with Photoshop. That can be easily done in 5 minutes to a still shot.

Now if they show an enhanced rolling video with the alleged scars showing in ALL of the frames and not some one-frame still, then they might have an argument. And that 'enhanced' video is not any sharper than the original. What up with that?

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
37. Betcha he loses the buzzcut....
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 04:03 PM
Apr 2012

And shows up with a 'do that hides the obvious wrinkles in his scalp.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
30. The investigators will get the medical reports.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 02:42 PM
Apr 2012

Clearly there was something happening because you hear witnesses say they were on the ground, and then you hear the screams for help.

So there is no doubt that they were on the ground, but as I recall, one of the callers described the red jacket as on top. Am I wrong about this? Does anyone recall this differently?

Lasher

(27,605 posts)
41. Yes I guess so, in the 'Zimmerman's account of events' section.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:05 PM
Apr 2012

I thought you were more interested in the 'Witness accounts' section but there is useful information throughout the Wikipedia article IMO.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
31. The CCTV video will be irrelevant in the long run
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 03:04 PM
Apr 2012

The EMS report, photos etc will be much more definitive. It may not be formally entered in to evidence at trial.

Right now it is all that is out there, so the media circus is all over it drawing any number of conjectures and conclusions

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