Shocking! Barack Obama Reveals The American Values That He REALLY Believes In

[Playinghardball]

Next thing you know, he might be accused of being downright patriotic


Source: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/28/1069294/-Now-Listen-to-a-Real-Speech-about-Real-American-Values

[Scuba]

1. Thank you.

[MineralMan]

2. K & R nt

[RKP5637]

3. K&R !!! n/t

[lame54]

4. "...Now, let's bust some pot smokers."

[Go Vols]

13. +1

[SammyWinstonJack]

20. ...

[Ikonoklast]

5. Republican "values" are greed, selfishness, and hatred.

That's all they have left, they have no moral ground upon which to lead this nation.


KnR.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

25. and lying.

I hate *them*.

I love Obama.

[GeorgeGist]

6. Your framing could be better.

Putting 'REALLY' in all caps could make one wonder
what values Barack Obama REALLY doesn't believe in.

[Ron Obvious]

7. Those are human values

Those are human values, but as someone once said about politicians in general: "don't tell me what you're for; show me your budget."

[WheelWalker]

9. IIRC, that someone was

Joe Biden during the last presidential campaign.

[Ron Obvious]

24. Damn, you're right

I looked it up and dammit if you're not entirely right. Here I thought it was much much older than that, but I can't find anything older.

Of course, Biden's been known to pinch a line or two.

[woo me with science]

27. Love the quote.

Thanks.

[NYC_SKP]

8. Crazy Talk!

K/R

Baggers and Freepers have their fuckkin heads up their asses, and sadly far too many Americans' heads up there, too.

Ewww.

[barbtries]

29. and the only thing worse than having your head up your ass

is having your head up someone else's ass.

[JDPriestly]

10. K&R

I also have the values that we are all created equal and that each of us is entitled to our privacy. Unfortunately, the Obama administration seems to think that the government can deprive us of our privacy and grant some the right to trial and others not.

[WeekendWarrior]

11. Oh, I see.

We can't have a nice thread about Obama without a naysayer, can we? Somebody always has to jump in with the negativity. While what you say may be true, it doesn't and shouldn't take away from the OP's post.

[woo me with science]

12. Yes, how dare someone ruin the pretty, patriotic words

by referencing his actual policies.

[WeekendWarrior]

14. Yes, exactly

And ignoring the good that he has done and tried to do. I have my gripes about him, too, but playing the troll is never attractive. Let's take our cynicism to another thread where it's more appropriate and let the people here feel good for once.

[woo me with science]

15. Substance?

The poster above you mentioned policies. Actual policies. You are free to participate in this conversation, but a little substance would help.

[WeekendWarrior]

17. The poster above me,

like you, is merely trolling for attention when he knows full well that the OP was not about Obama's particular policies but about a philosophy. I believe, in spirit, that Obama tries to remain true to that philosophy, even if his policies sometimes don't reflect it.

But I'm smart enough to know that I'm never going to be 100% pleased by any president, and also smart enough not to troll a "feel good" thread with my cynicism, no matter how unhappy I may personally be or how negative I may feel.

Perhaps you should be, too.

[woo me with science]

26. No substance.

Just blind, "feel good" adulation and insults for those who question it.

Welcome to the new DU.

The lack of substance in this one, particular post wouldn't necessarily be a problem if there were substance behind the adulation in other places on this board... but I am having trouble finding evidence of that anywhere here. It's pretty striking that, during an election year, you can look down this entire board and not see a single post talking about recent achievements on behalf of the people, or plans for policies that will help reverse the movement of this country toward corporate authoritarianism. Not one.

By contrast, we have seen all kinds of news over the past month of policies on behalf of corporations, the MIC, and the police state. We have received a steady stream of news about settlements for corrupt banks, new spy centers to gather email and phone records of Americans, "reluctant" signing of legislation for detention indefinitely without trial, claiming of the right to assassinate American citizens, plans to speed pipeline construction, and exclamations from Obama's Secretary of Defense that the war budget must be spared.

It is not out of line, therefore, when we are given yet another "feel good" post with vague, pretty words, or bright flags, or gushing over the President's proficiency in sign language, to ask what he is offering, policy-wise, that is inspiring these soaring posts. If questions along those lines elicit hostility rather than an actual response, this board begins to look like any vapid Republican flag-waving event, and that should concern all of us.

Democrats want Democratic policies. We have lately had an overdose of the corporate and the neocon with regard to policy. Especially during an election year, it is fair to ask for substance behind the soaring words.

[WeekendWarrior]

31. The sky is falling

Look, I'm an old man. I've been through it all. I've seen decades of this shit come and go and it always goes in cycles. And there are always those who scream "Oh my god, the world is coming to an end!" at every single opportunity, without taking a moment to appreciate the fact that, despite all the shit, there are actually some GOOD things that happen and sometimes it's just nice to, you know, ENJOY the moment.

But no, people like you and your buddy above have to squat over anything that looks remotely upbeat and take a giant "woe is me" shit on it.

Go take your shit somewhere else. There's plenty of opportunity for your hand-wringing on DU.

[SomethingFishy]

21. Feel good... for once?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002508404
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=497090
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002507002
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002507011
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002505666
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002504724
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002495548
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002502404

Go ahead.. knock yourself out.

[hootinholler]

16. There's a group for that.

The sans naysayer part, that is.

[JDPriestly]

33. I strongly support President Obama, but I also want him

to do better and to know that I will support him even more if he stands stronger behind his best ideals.

[longship]

18. "Always with the negative waves, Moriarty!"

[treestar]

32. We are not being deprived of our privacy

Why the hyperbole?

And there is a limit to right to trial somewhere. If you include people plotting abroad, just what circumstances would draw the line for you?

[JDPriestly]

34. Actually, we fought our American revolution and War of 1812 in part

to make sure that Americans would be tried in American courts by American juries under the very specific rules set forth in our Constitution.

We fought, in part, to protect the rights of American citizens on the high seas. Americans have rights no matter where they are. They also have responsibilities. So, the solution to Alwalaki was to take him alive. We have the military power to do that. Why didn't we?

[Citizen Worker]

19. Wonderful rhetoric but do the deeds match? Just look at the record for the answer.

[ThomThom]

22. Look out repugs... Obama has gone into campaign mode

when the President speaks he gets coverage
TAKE IT TO THEM MR. PRESIDENT

[progressoid]

23. We're all in the together. And some are more in this than others.

It's doubleplusgood!

[deacon]

28. K/R

[spanone]

30. k&r...

[Autumn]

35. K&R

Those are values this man can campaign like no one else can.