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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:20 AM Apr 2012

Romney: Obama Hopes To Establish ‘Secularism’ As An Official Religion

Romney: Obama Hopes To Establish ‘Secularism’ As An Official Religion

By Igor Volsky

Likely GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney doubled down on his attack against President Obama for allegedly waging a “war on religion” during a town hall in Milwaukee, Wisconsin Monday night, insisting that the Affordable Care Act’s new rule requiring employers to provide preventive health care services like contraception constituted an effort to establish “secularism” as an official religion.

“They decided to say that in this country, that a church, in this case the Catholic Church would be required to violate its principles and its conscience and be required to provide contraceptives, sterilization and morning after pills to the employees of the Church,” Romney said. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI), who has endorsed Romney and has campaigned throughout Wisconsin with the former governor, went even further, suggesting that “if that’s what this president is willing to do in a tough election year, imagine what he will do after the election if he ever has to face the voters ever again in fulfilling the rest of Obamacare.” Watch it:

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But both men should know better, particularly since they’re in a state that has a far more aggressive contraceptive equity law than Obama’s national model and have yet to witness any grand sweep of secularism across the Badger State.

For instance, under Obama’s rule the Catholic Church — and all houses of worship — are specifically exempt from providing contraception to their employees, while religiously affiliated nonprofits can also opt out of offering birth control if they so choose. The same is not true in Wisconsin, however, where a 2010 law requires all employers — including the Catholic Church — to offer contraceptive benefits. But rather than declare war against “secularism,” religious organizations seem amiable towards the change. Some had been providing the benefit prior to the requirement and other characterize the use of contraception as a matter of personal conscience.

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http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/04/03/457068/romney-obama-hopes-to-establish-secularism-as-an-official-religion/

Someone should really unzip Mitt so that everyone can see that he's a limp...

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JHB

(37,161 posts)
2. Too late! Some guys named Madison, Adams, Jefferson, etc. beat him to it.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:22 AM
Apr 2012

Buncha frikkin radicals. No respect for Divine Right of authority.

 

Gurgen4

(39 posts)
3. Well I hope Obama does establish Secularism
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:27 AM
Apr 2012

That is the way our country was founded. Anybody who says otherwise is a traitor to this country, its citizens, and the Constitution. Pure and simple. Anyone who advocates joining church and state is guilty of treason.

orwell

(7,775 posts)
6. But when asked if he agreed with Mormon teachings...
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:06 AM
Apr 2012

...about African Americans just yesterday he said he didn't want to talk about religion.

Flip...flop...flippity...flop...its a flip flip flippity flop...

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
7. a mormon bishop lecturing on religion?
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:07 AM
Apr 2012

check your history books mittens..the christian right strongly dislikes mormons. good luck with the southern baptists

Evasporque

(2,133 posts)
8. Romney brings out the stupid for Wisconsin Republicans....
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:08 AM
Apr 2012

Wisconsin conservatives are good at "teh stoopid".....

agentS

(1,325 posts)
11. And people said he would be a tough guy to beat!
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:25 AM
Apr 2012

A while back, I posted that I wanted the Repubs to field their best candidate in the general election. I wanted Obama to beat their best guy.

And this is their best guy, a guy who still continues the culture war arguments while down 20 points in polls to Obama in the Women demographic.

Yes, this is their best guy....

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
12. So he doesn't want to talk....
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:35 AM
Apr 2012

about his religion, but thinks it's ok to take religious pot shots at the president. He's such an asshole.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. "Secularism" is not a religion.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:51 AM
Apr 2012

As Andrew Sullivan recently noted, secularism means that the church minds its business in church and politics is the place for rational discourse; he also argues that the reichwing has redefined "secularism" as atheism, which it is not.

Mittens has been, remains, and always will be, a sniveling .01% shitheel.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
15. UH??? The Constitution separates church and state.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 02:08 PM
Apr 2012

The government may neither establish nor interfere in religion. Religion is completely separated therefore from government.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am1

The government's hands are tied when it comes to religion. Can't even make a law regarding the establishment of it. Can't prohibit the free exercise either.

But -- Scalia in his famous Smith decision ruled that we have to follow the law and cannot follow our religion if it conflicts with the law.

Here is the link to the Smith decision.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0494_0872_ZO.html

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