CNN just made a zimmerman defender dance....

[Pholus]

I was only half-paying attention at the beginning but would wished I had by the end of the segment. Please someone say they got this on tape!

The guy started out saying the video OBVIOUSLY showed zimmerman was injured. Yeah, whatever, my photoshop brings up bumps too.

But then he talked about all the breakins perpetrated by young black men over the last few weeks.

An anchor (not the interviewer) broke in to point out that zimmerman's family has specifically said that racial profiling was NOT an issue but was the guest saying that this had been discussed at neighborhood watch meetings?

The guy looked like he'd benn hit with an axe. He started by claiming there were technical difficulties and that he didn't hear the question. Then he denied it but then became REALLY incoherent -- his narrative had been shattered and he was in waters he hadn't anticipated.

Among the various circular denials that followed I heard some inane observation that "you plant corn, you get corn" I guess saying that they were profiling and that "it is what it is."

Anyway, I REALLY hope to see the whole interview again. It was worthwhile!

[vaberella]

1. Wahhh, I want to see that too. Mediatite might have it.

I can't watch YT vids but I would kill to see this.

[K Gardner]

54. http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/ (whole interview.. priceless)

[Ecumenist]

2. Wow, I hope they repreat that. I'm going to look for it Do you know which onw it was?

Oliver, the black guy, the white haired Taaffe or the borther he hasn't spoken to in 2 YEARS?

[Pholus]

5. After checking google images it was Taaffe -- I'd seen him before.

The segment was on soledad o'brien.

[Cooley Hurd]

10. Yep, it was Taaffe - he admitted again that they were racial-profiling in the neighborhood watch

He said repeatedly that there were 7 burgularies in the complex - "ALL perpetrated by black males". Soledad pressed him on it, but he could only confirm two cases that involved black males. That's when Will Cain (repug strategist) asked him specifically about racial profiling - all of a sudden, Taaffe couldn't hear the question.

[Ecumenist]

66. I bet he couldn't, convenient, intermittent deafness; yeah, that happens all the time.

[uponit7771]

3. I saw it, at the end he started to act like he couldn't hear. People who were watching started laugh

...laughing at the fact that he was answering just fine just before the last question.


ZMan defenders are fos

[rbrnmw]

4. good K&R n/t

[gratuitous]

6. A CNN interviewer actually prepared? With, like, facts?

That would be something to see. Well, I'm sure that after they apologize to their guest, the person who was so low down and dastardly as to use facts will be appropriately cashiered, and the guest will be welcome to come back on without having to deal with such inconveniences.

[Cooley Hurd]

8. It was Soledad - she's the best.

[vaberella]

9. Well if it's Soledad...not new. You get shit reporting from Cooper. n/t

[K Gardner]

63. ACooper had already let this idiot slide HORRIBLY about 10 days ago.. Soledad was ready..

she really made him look like the racist bigot he is.

[Whisp]

21. Yes she is.

in that parched land of news, CNN does have a couple that are actually professional and Soledad is one.

I wasn't fond of her when she had her regular daily on years ago but since she's gone into docs and town halls, I think she is doing very well.

[pipi_k]

27. I have to admit

That most of that interview I was pissed off that she was letting him get away with talking over her, etc.

But as it went on, I could see her strategy. He ran his big mouth and dug a hole RE: the racial profiling.

She did a masterful job of emulating "Columbo" and I loved her very faint smirk of satisfaction at the end.

Love me some Soledad today!

[Cooley Hurd]

7. Saw it. He claims he was misquoted by the NYT - the "Trayvon-like dudes" quote

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/02/us/trayvon-martin-shooting-prompts-a-review-of-ideals.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2&hp

<snip>
Adding to the uncertainty and flux was the sense among some residents that this secured community was no longer so secure. There had been burglaries; at least seven in 2011, according to police reports. Strangers had started showing up, said Frank Taaffe, 55, a marketing specialist, originally from the Bronx, who works out of his home in the Retreat. He made it clear that he was not talking about just any strangers.

“There were Trayvon-like dudes with their pants down,” Mr. Taaffe said.
</snip>

Yeah, a NYT reporter would just pull a quote of their ass for a story that has garnered national attention.

[yardwork]

11. I hope that Trayvon's family's attorney is taking notes - this is all evidence for a lawsuit.

The more Taafe talks, the more obvious it is that the HOA "hired" him and Zimmerman to patrol the neighborhood profiling young black men - "Trayvon-like dudes with their pants down." I'll bet that the HOA knew that Taafe and Zimmerman were armed, too.

Taafe, of course, was convicted of being a wife beater. Nice guy.

[leftynyc]

13. If they decline to prosecute

george using SYG, the family will be unable to sue. It's right there in the law.

[yardwork]

15. I'm sure there are lawyers who would disagree, and happily take the case.

The feds are investigating for civil rights violations. Even if there are no criminal charges, the feds can file civil rights violation charges.

And I don't believe that the criminal charges would have much bearing one way or the other on the liability faced by the HOA. That's also a civil matter.

[leftynyc]

18. Here's the law

776.032?Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—

(1)?A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.

(2)?A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.

(3)?The court shall award reasonable attorney’s fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection (1).


And according to subsection 3 - the court will order the plantiff to pay all lawyers fees if they use SYG as a defense (and it works).

But you're right about civil rights charges. Those are federal and therefore different. But I don't understand how the HOA is responsible if george was not an offiical watchperson.

[yardwork]

20. Just because the law says "immunity from civil action" doesn't make it so.

And as for the HOA, there is written evidence (the minutes of their meeting last fall) that they knew and approved of George Zimmerman patroling the neighborhood as a volunteer watchman. That exposes the HOA to liability. It doesn't matter that he wasn't a member of a national organization. It's not relevant. What is relevant is that the HOA knew that he was out there and did nothing - in fact, they encouraged him.

[leftynyc]

35. Then they should be liable

If it was written down in the minutes, they're screwed. But that doesn't hold true for george....if they find him not able to be prosecuted under SYG, he is not liable and a judge will throw out the case.

[yardwork]

36. That may be true. My post was about the HOA's liability, not George's. I don't know about his.

[Sancho]

12. he was identified as former neighborhood watch captain...

Zimmermann was a self-appointed "watcher" and was not following any organized watch standards. Who knows what this guy really was....he was obviously profiling blacks and stuck his foot in his mouth.

[Catherina]

25. He wasn't self-appointed. They voted him neighborhood watch captain

At the time the homeowners association decided to organize a neighborhood watch, Zimmerman was the only volunteer.(37) He was then chosen as the neighborhood watch coordinator by his neighbors, according to Wendy Dorival, who organizes Neighborhood Watch for the Sanford Police Department.(39) The February 2012 homeowner association newsletter requested that crime victims "call our captain, George Zimmerman" after calling the police.(9) “He (Zimmerman) once caught a thief and an arrest was made,” said Cynthia Wibker, secretary of the homeowners association.(37)

…

Zimmerman is licensed to carry a firearm.(37) Sanford police chief Bill Lee said that while neighborhood watch volunteers are not encouraged to carry a gun, they have a Constitutional right to do so,(37) stating, "Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred.&quot 46)

Sanford Police volunteer program coordinator Wendy Dorival, told the Miami Herald that she met Zimmerman in September, 2011 at a community neighborhood watch presentation. Dorival stated that she gave a warning with respect to vigilante behavior at that meeting: “I said, ‘If it’s someone you don’t recognize, call us. We’ll figure it out,’?” Dorival said. “‘Observe from a safe location.’ There’s even a slide about not being vigilante police. I don’t know how many more times I can repeat it.”(37)

…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

The Neighborhood Watch at Retreat at Twin Lakes, where Zimmerman lived and was chosen as coordinator by his neighbors, was formed in September, Dorival said. It is not registered with the national group, but there is no registration requirement. The Sanford Police Department provides training and community signs, and informs residents about crime trends and prevention.

Zimmerman raised no red flags during an organizational meeting Sept. 22, and no one had complained about him before the shooting, Dorival said.

...

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-24/news/os-trayvon-martin-neighborhood-watch-20120321_1_zimmerman-community-ties-neighborhood-watch

[librechik]

28. thx for these links, it's the first I've heard of it

I though he was just a flake, too

[Catherina]

32. He even had little cards that were handed out at the neighborhood meetings

and went door introducing himself and distributing them.

I don't have a link but I remember it from a video with a neighbor who was interviewed and said the first time they saw Zimmerman was when he came to the door to introduce himself and hand them his card.

I just found this from an NPR article about

ALLEN: In community newsletters, George Zimmerman was identified as the Neighborhood Watch captain, and residents were encouraged to contact him if they were victimized by crime. He was a volunteer, but attorney Donna DiMaggio Berger says that doesn't protect the homeowners association from liability.

She says some key issues in a lawsuit would be: Did the homeowners association help set up the neighborhood watch program, and how much diligence did it show in training and overseeing the volunteers.

DONNA DIMAGGIO BERGER: I have been told in this case is that they did reach out to the local sheriff's office to set up that neighborhood watch. And if that's the case, that's going to go a long way towards creating a safety net for that association.

...

http://www.npr.org/2012/04/02/149866203/martins-parents-plan-to-sue-homeowners-association

...

The homeowners association acknowledged Zimmerman and the neighborhood crime watch in a February newsletter, according to the Associated Press. The newsletter encouraged residents to contact Zimmerman in case of an incident, it said.

“If you’ve been the victim of a crime within the community, after calling the police, please contact our captain, George Zimmerman … so we can be aware and help address the issue with other residents,” the newsletter said.

That relationship is likely to come into play, said Donna DiMaggio Berger, a founding partner at the law firm Katzman Garfinkel & Berger, which represents community associations in Florida.

“It’s not as if the association can say we had no idea … that Zimmerman held himself out as a neighborhood watch captain,” she said.

Efforts to reach board members for Retreat at Twin Lakes Homeowners’ Association were unsuccessful.

...

http://www.klugerkaplan.com/blog/

Oh goodie, this is from the September 2012 Homeowners Association newsletter itself

Neighborhood Watch & Crime in the Community

We have recently experienced an increased incidence of crime within the community including three break-ins in the past month, which is why having residents committed to being members of the Neighborhood Watch and reporting suspicious activities is so important. We must send a message that we will not tolerate this in our community! If you have any information on these crimes or witness suspicious activity, please contact the Sanford PD at 407-688-5199. Your call can be anonymous. Having an active Neighborhood Watch can reduce crime by 80%. To receive Neighborhood Watch updates, safety tips and be notified of any suspicious activity within your community Call George Zimmerman at (I, Catherina, redacted the phone number) or email RTL [e-mail] to get involved. You can also call Sanford PD to schedule free “vacation checks” when you go out of town as well as free home security inspections to help you burglar-proof your home. Go to www.crimemapping.com and click on Sanford PD for more crime reports from this community.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/69888406/RTL-Newsletter-September-2011-FINAL

The same newsletter confirms that Wendy Dorival who confirmed Zimmerman as the watch captain was the SPD Community Volunteer Coordinator. This is a little lower down under "Community News"

Neighborhood Watch —

We just held a meeting with the Sanford PD on 9.22.11 and learned many great tips for preventing crime in our community. In attendance on behalf of Sanford Police Department were: Community Volunteer Coordinator, Wendy Dorival, Sergant Herx and Ofcer Buchannon. Sergeant Herx and Officer Buchannonare both assigned to our neighborhood and announced increased patrol within our neighborhood. In addition to the extra marked patrols, Sanford PD has initiated random bike patrols of both the front and back yards of our community and random unmarked vehicle patrols with increased patrolling during peak crimehours. Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee has pledged his support to our neighborhood and asked to attend thenext Neighborhood Watch community meeting! The Neighborhood Watch is looking for additional members to participate and become a block captains. We are open to all residents. Meetings are held the third Tuesday of each month at 6:30PM in the clubhouse, 30 minutes prior to the scheduled HOA Board meetings. Please keep your eyes open. If you see something suspicious or out of place, report it! You can make an anonymous call to the Sanford PD Non-emergency # 407-688-5199 or 911 and help keep our community safe. Email us at: [e-mail] for more information or call George Zimmerman at (number redacted)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/69888406/RTL-Newsletter-September-2011-FINAL

Then we have this too where the police downplayed it to *member* instead of *captain*. I don't know how intentional that was but since they're in full defensive cover-up mode, it wouldn't surprise me.



The HOA's February newsletter doesn't mention either Zimmerman or the tragedy.

[K Gardner]

45. Excellent Work ! Bookmarked ! So, from what I read.. since he was the ONLY volunteer..

he kind of got the responsibility "by default". Interesting.

[Catherina]

52. I'm as angry about it and determined as you are

and many other DUers and outraged Americans. Zimmerman and the SPD aren't getting away with their lies. Not on my watch.

What I really want one of us to to get our hands on is one of his cards.

Your work is excellent too. I'm following you and a few other people like a friendly bloodhound.

[Catherina]

64. Here's more, from a video K Gardner was talking about in another thread

Towards the end of this video, they reveal how Zimmerman set up the meetings for the HOA's neighborhood watch.

They even got the powerpoint presentation they presented that night in the September HOA meeting.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/hardball/46945486#46945486

[Ecumenist]

67. Oh, that's even worse...IF they VOTED him into an UNREGISTERED and NONCOMPLIANT NHW

Program .."OOOH, this ain't gone be prettay atall""

[abelenkpe]

14. Zimmerman was not neighborhood watch

He was a self appointed racial profiling judge jury and executioner of Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman was not a part of neighborhood watch. He was just going shopping at target with a concealed loaded gun. What kind a fucking lunatic is packing at Target?!

[butterfly77]

16. Yes,it was good..

I began laughing as I saw him getting caught in his own trap. I wonder who they will be trotting out their next and what will the fairy tale be this time..

[Gurgen4]

17. This is a great strategy.

I wish they would bring more Zimmerman supporters on. We need to bring out their bigotry for all to see and also show what liars they are.

[rbixby]

19. The specific words "you plant corn, you get corn" stuck with me

What an odd thing to say, it almost sounds to me like some kind of dog whistle that only certain people would understand. Maybe I'm just a little too conspiracy minded, but that's what it seemed like.

[Lucy Goosey]

26. It's not just you.

I totally heard that as, "Corn is corn; young Black males are burglars."

[MoonRiver]

22. Soledad O'Brien nailed that guy's ass!

Called him on what he said was clearly racial profiling by Zimmerman both when he said it and after he denied it!

[ecstatic]

23. Kick! Any video yet? nt

[Catherina]

29. I want to see it too! Transcript here

...

O’BRIEN: So it sounds to me it made sense to you that George Zimmerman would be fearful of young black men.

TAAFFE: No. It would be consistent that the perpetrators were all of the young black male I.D.

O’BRIEN: Say that one more time?

TAAFFE: That's a fact.

O’BRIEN: What do you mean? I don't understand what you're saying.

TAAFFE: All of the perpetrators of the burglaries, the prior burglaries, were young black males.

O’BRIEN: And so when he saw Trayvon Martin, in your mind it would make perfect sense to say he's a young black male. It’s probably robbery -- is that what you're saying?

TAAFFE: There's an old saying if you plant corn, you get corn.

...

http://www.allyourtv.com/index.php/2011-07-25-15-56-50/575-zimmerman-neighbor-talks-tals-to-cnn-prior-burglaries-were-by-young-black-males

[K Gardner]

38. OMG.. so he didn't do enough damage on his first round of TV

appearances and is back for more.

I despise this guy as much as I do Zimmerman.

[Catherina]

40. So do I. And just when you think it can't get any more disgusting (brace yourself, this is gross)

I'm keeping an eye on what the Zimmerman camp is up to.

This is the latest and they're spreading it today. It's a Zimmerman's family member letter to the NAACP.

The relative reports having sent the letter and the flyer's text to the Baltimore and Washington, DC offices of the NAACP, black churches that have been calling for George Zimmerman’s head, Sherman Ware’s sister, Tonetta Foster, who has been denouncing Zimmerman from megaphones at the hate rallies targeting him, and many media organizations and journalists. The package went out to Pastor Holmes at the Bethel Missionary Baptist Church in Tallahassee, the Allen Chapel AME Church, Eric Degganf, of CNN’s Reliable Sources and the Tampa Bay News, media critic Howard Kurtz at both the Washington Post and the Daily Beast, Megan Kelly at Fox News, The Smoking Gun, Rachel Delinsky of the Sanford Herald, columnist Michelle Malkin, and many other people and organizations. (The family member was away from a computer, and the mailing list.)

...

The relative reports having sent the letter and the flyer's text to the Baltimore and Washington, DC offices of the NAACP, black churches that have been calling for George Zimmerman’s head, Sherman Ware’s sister, Tonetta Foster, who has been denouncing Zimmerman from megaphones at the hate rallies targeting him, and many media organizations and journalists. The package went out to Pastor Holmes at the Bethel Missionary Baptist Church in Tallahassee, the Allen Chapel AME Church, Eric Degganf, of CNN’s Reliable Sources and the Tampa Bay News, media critic Howard Kurtz at both the Washington Post and the Daily Beast, Megan Kelly at Fox News, The Smoking Gun, Rachel Delinsky of the Sanford Herald, columnist Michelle Malkin, and many other people and organizations. (The family member was away from a computer, and the mailing list.)

(I'm removing the link for DU's sake, you can find it on google)

here is the letter. There's more about it on the site. I have a very difficult time believing that Mr "F*cking C**ns" and his fixation with Black kids as thugs did any such thing. In my mind, the family's creativity defies belief.

That site is also a hate site. Little graphics like this one gave them away



In fact, google only returned the full letter on Scribds and two hate sites.

I expect the Orlando Sentinel to cover this latest glowingly later today.

How is it that these non-racist angels of humanitarianism are going to known racists like Michelle Malkin? I find it kind of odd.

March 26, 2012

Turner Clayton
NAACP
4805 Mount Hope Drive
Baltimore, MD 21215

Mr. Clayton,

Subject: George Zimmerman

Dear Mr Clayton

The events of February 26, 2012 are tragic and the details of which will not be disclosed until the police
report is made public. Regardless of this fact, George Zimmerman has been hiding for his life because of
the death threats made against him by the black community. He has been found guilty (in the public
eye) until proven innocent. He has been called a racist and a bigot and there have been very few that
have stood up for him. There has been an unprecedented rush to judge George regardless of the facts.
The black community as a whole has turned their backs and blindly followed the furor stirred up by selfproclaimed
leaders of your community. These leaders have rallies and chant horrible things of a person
they know nothing about. If justice is what the community wants don’t you think you should wait for the
investigators to do their jobs first? Isn’t that justice?

The purpose of this letter of the remind you that things are not always what they seem. Sometimes
tragic things happen and there are ALWAYS two sides to every story. As African‐Americans you can
surely identify with that. While I am not prepared to get into the details of the investigation because I do
not want to make a rush to judgment like the rest of society, I would like to point out some things that
many of your followers already know. These people that I refer to have, to date, lacked the moral
character and principle to do the right thing even though it may be unpopular.

You will recall the incident of the beating of the black homeless man Sherman Ware on December 4,
2010 by the son of a Sanford police officer. The beating sparked an outrage in the community but there
were very few that stepped up to do anything about it. I would presume the inaction was because of the
fact that he was homeless not because he was black. Do you know the individual that stepped up when
no one else in the black community would? Do you know who spent tireless hours putting flyers on the
cars of persons parked in the churches of the black community? Do you know who waited for the
church‐goers to get out of church so that he could hand them fliers in an attempt to organize the black
community against this horrible miscarriage of justice? Do you know who helped organize the City Hall
meeting on January 8th , 2011 at Sanford City Hall?? That person was GEORGE ZIMMERMAN. Ironic isn’t
it?

The main point for this letter is to explain to you that the black community has labeled George a racist
without any investigation at all. Regardless of the fact that George personally spoke to many of your
constituents, not one has stepped forward and said, Hey I know that face. That is the Hispanic guy that
was standing up for Sherman Ware. That was the only non‐black face in the meetings for justice in this
case. You know as well as I do that there are many NAACP followers that recognize George from the
Ware case as well as many other good things that he’s done for the black community. It’s time for you to
end the race issue in this matter and call for cooler heads to prevail. If something happens to George as
a result of the race furor stirred up by this mischaracterization of George there will be blood on your
hands as well as the rest of the racists that have rushed to judgment. You need to call off the dogs.
Period. Publicly and swiftly.

You will not be the only recipient of this letter. I am going to scream as loud about this as the NAACP has
against “racist” George. There will be a press release with a copy of this letter mailed to the media but I
am going to give you a head‐start in doing the right thing. The actions of the NAACP on this will help the
world decide whether your organization is in fact racist or if it is for the greater good of society.

I will not be providing my name because all of our family is in hiding and frankly scared by the threats
from the black community. If you feel the need to respond I will see this in the media (if you do the right
thing) and I will be happy to provide more details showing how wrong you really are. I will not remain
anonymous after the outcome of this case is determined. There are going to be a lot of people that need
to be held accountable for their rush to judgment.

BTW, I have attached herewith a copy of the flyer that was placed on your constituents cars last year
that might jog the memory of your amnesia‐laden supporters.

A Concerned Zimmerman Family Member

[K Gardner]

44. OMG ! This is horrible !! Have you done an OP on this? Sheesh.. how terrible ! I'll

be waiting to hear this on the news, at least from Sharpton !

[Catherina]

49. I'm conflicted about doing an OP about it

and giving these lowlifes more exposure.

Aside from scribd, I only found it on two racist websites and I didn't want to link to them. What do you think?

There's also a big campaign to get Sharpton fired by the same people.

[K Gardner]

59. I do see your point. I'd be conflicted about it, too. Surely the FBI has this piece of

garbage. I'd wait and see if I hear anything about it on mainstream media. If Sharpton covers it, then I'd think its fair game.

[Ecumenist]

68. This letter reads like a threat! So,what this person is saying is back down or else?

[Catherina]

69. That's how I read it too n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

46. WOW. He ceretainly did Zimmerman no favors

Props to Soledad O'brien and Will Cain

[Catherina]

51. I can't wait for an open trial

None of this grand jury behind closed doors. I want to watch them lie and trip and squirm.

Props to the media for not dropping this one.

Read this whole article, not just my excerpt

...

For about 10 days, the story remained obscure. Television news from nearby Orlando aired a few segments. The Orlando Sentinel published two brief articles, and the twice-weekly Sanford Herald ran 213 words. Otherwise, there was media silence. This is an account of what happened before everyone knew Trayvon Martin's name.

...

It was drizzling, and he asked Martin if they could go inside. When they were seated he pulled out a photo. It was Trayvon, dead at the scene - his eyes rolled back, a tear on his cheek, saliva coming from his mouth. "From that point, our nightmare," Martin said.

...

On Wednesday, the day after receiving the news, Martin went to the Sanford Police Department looking for answers - and his son's body. Police took him to a room and played some of the 911 recordings of neighbors who called to report a disturbance followed by a gunshot.

...

Sanford police have stopped talking to reporters about the case, and Serino has never spoken publicly about his role in it, but here is how Martin recalls what Serino said: "He told me Zimmerman's story was that Zimmerman was of course following him and that Trayvon approached his vehicle, walked up to the car and asked Zimmerman, ‘Why are your following me?' Zimmerman then rolls his car windows down, tells Trayvon ‘I'm not following you.' He rolls his car windows up.

...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/03/us-usa-florida-shooting-trayvon-idUSBRE8320UK20120403

[Catherina]

30. Video

Last edited Tue Apr 3, 2012, 08:45 PM - Edit history (1)

CNN has it up http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/03/zimmerman-neighbor-fmr-neighborhood-watch-captain-prior-burglaries-were-by-young-black-males-if-you-plant-corn-you-get-corn/


or you can download the .wmv file from crooks and liars http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/zimmerman-defender-rants-about-young-black-m

I just started watching. Yuck.


Edit to add to see Pacalo's post about which video to watch http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=513660

[ecstatic]

31. thanks! nt

[Catherina]

33. Wow. "If you plant corn, you get corn. It is what it is."

I can't believe he said that.

[pacalo]

43. The extended Crooks & Liars video is the one to see.

Taaffe can try to take back what he said about "young black males", but his implication couldn't have been clearer: The previous burglaries were committed by young black males & that is why Zimmerman went after Trayvon. As for the when you plant corn, you get corn analogy, I'm taking his meaning as, when young black males have burglarized our neighborhood, we have the right to target young black males. That's also what he meant by the Perfect Storm.

And this man makes me realize that one consolation for Trayvon's family in Zimmerman's not having been arrested yet is that Zimmerman's witnesses seem to have a false sense of security that Zimmerman was in the right & are too happy to step out on their own to defend him to the media. They're doing more harm than any good to Zimmerman's case. That's a plus for Trayvon's family.

-- Taafee now denies it, but I believe his quote to the NYT, "There were Trayvon-like dudes with their pants down", was accurate. I don't believe a NYT reporter would fabricate that.

-- Taaffe said America wants to see a bloody t-shirt; they want to see gore. No, we want to see proof that Zimmerman's head was pounded into the cement for one minute (an eternity when your head is being pounded) as he claimed.

[K Gardner]

50. http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/ This one definitely better ! eom

[Catherina]

53. Thanks. I believe the quote too

What lowlifes.

[jsmirman]

24. Where's the broken nose

enhanced footage, my ass. Few things occasion more visible damage vs. actual injury than a broken nose.

When your nose breaks, that is bleeding that will not stop without significant amounts of effort and time. Anything you are wearing will be *covered* in blood. And the visual evidence will not be limited to just your nose.

A broken nose means you will look as though a 2 x 4 caught you square across your entire face.

No "enhancement" or tap dancing at this point will make the obviousness of that lie go away.

[Myrina]

34. It was a gated neighborhood ...

... with over 180 calls to cops over the past couple years about 'unsavory characters' and break ins.

To me that sounds like either they were consciously harassing the 'un-white' folks in their hood, or they have an internal criminal element that may be someone else in the hood's kids doing the breaking/entering thing for shits n' giggles.

[K Gardner]

37. Was it this guy? Because I've been updating a diary about him...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002455364 - Frank Taaffe

He's full of it.

[HangOnKids]

39. Quite the dirt bag that guy is

His house. his house blah blah blah. The little quip about HOOD when Soledad said neighborhood was quite telling. To me it means two things (as Taffe was chuckling when he said it) he was giggling about Trayvon being killed in a hoodie, and as the HOOD normally pertains to a black neighborhood, Taffe thought he was being clever alluding to HIS neighborhood being overrun with young black HOOD inhabitants.

What a scorchingly stupid piece of shit. He likes his mug on TV doesn't he? The corn thing was beyond the pale. Essentially he was saying young black men will all grow up to be criminals. Hey Frank "If you plant ignorant racist stupid you get ignorant racist stupid." Frank is a fucking moron.

[K Gardner]

48. Neighbor-HOOD. He said it twice. Absolutely disgusting. eom

[Catherina]

41. Yuck! That was him?

There's no misinterpreting that comment about planting corn now.

I'm reading your excellent work now and bookmarked it. I hope you added it to your journal.

[K Gardner]

47. Yup... he must've taken a week off to "upgrade his image" or something. Doesn't he

realize he's just making it worse?~

[csziggy]

57. I think he and Oliver are tag teaming it

Joe Oliver hasn't been seen since the day after Lawrence O'Donnell cleaned his clock. Frank Taaffe hid for a few days after Nancy Grace cut his mike off in mid-rant (not sure if it was his rant or hers, LOL).

[K Gardner]

60. LOL ! I hadn't heard about Nancy. I"ll have to look for that video ! eom

[Catherina]

42. Two excellent threads about the racist dirtball Zimmerman defender Frank Taaffe

KGardner's: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002464806 (mentioned above)

and

HipChick's: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002455364

[Quixote1818]

55. Why doesn't the media ask him what fucking evidence he has that all 8 robberies were blacks?

How on earth could he know that unless they were all caught?

[pacalo]

58. Yes, that's what I'm wondering. How does he know?!

[K Gardner]

61. He doesn't know. He only knows about two. At least, that's what I"ve gathered

from his various appearances. Soledad tried to pin him down and got "when you plant corn you get corn, it is what it is."

[pacalo]

65. Either Zimmerman doesn't have a good lawyer or Zimmerman's incompetent father

is taking it upon himself to call the shots for his son's case. It seems to me that whoever is in charge of Zimmerman's case should contact all potential character witnesses & tell them to zip it.

[csziggy]

56. Video from CNN

http://startingpoint.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/03/george-zimmermans-neighbor-frank-taaffe-tells-soledad-trayvon-shooting-was-perfect-storm-said-prior-burglaries-in-area-by-black-males-meant-everyone-was-suspicious/

[fascisthunter]

62. but the right wing says the media is "liberal"

oooops... another lie.