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aquart

(69,014 posts)
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:54 AM Apr 2012

Irish babies should be served on toast. They're delicious!

God help Jonathan Swift with the DU crew! I just juried an OP which linked to a satire site. The post was voted HIDE IT because it was "insensitive" and "not funny."

(And spare me the unctuous concern for Jewish sensibilities. That post didn't come close to offending me.)


SATIRE IS NOT FUNNY!!!! A generation has been poorly taught that satire, farce, and parody are the same damn thing.

Okay, parody mocks using common genres and other instantly recognizable means. It's easy to do. Parody is the bunny slope of humor.

Farce is more complex. In farce the rules of society are very strict and the humor derives from the increasingly desperate attempt to avoid exposure for violating those rules. There's a lot of comfort in farce.

Satire is the opposite of farce. In satire the rules of society dissolve and the "humor" derives from the increasingly desperate attempts to pretend they haven't. Satire is the stuff of nightmares. There is no comfort in satire because there is nothing familiar to cling to that isn't false.

Satire is meant to make you feel bad. Sensitive? NO. Pass me the ketchup and a leg of Irish baby.

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Irish babies should be served on toast. They're delicious! (Original Post) aquart Apr 2012 OP
Some satire is instead ridiclue or abuse. slampoet Apr 2012 #1
All satire is ridicule and abuse. aquart Apr 2012 #3
I prefer my Irish baby barbecued but not burnt. Arctic Dave Apr 2012 #2
I like Irish coffee myself, petronius Apr 2012 #5
ooh, you are gonna get alerted! pansypoo53219 Apr 2012 #6
It's also tough... pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #7
"Satire," said Lenny Bruce, "is tragedy plus time." . . . Journeyman Apr 2012 #4
I prefer doing something else entirely to MY Irish baby... saras Apr 2012 #8
I'm of Irish ancestory, married to a Jew and I Fawke Em Apr 2012 #9
Baby toes are so adorable! aquart Apr 2012 #10

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
4. "Satire," said Lenny Bruce, "is tragedy plus time." . . .
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:18 AM
Apr 2012

It's when the artist compresses the time, or bends it to fit his sensibilities, that's when he most risks censure and ostracism for puncturing social mores and conventions. As well, it's when he gets closest to truth.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
8. I prefer doing something else entirely to MY Irish baby...
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 03:25 AM
Apr 2012

I had ignored politics (except for voting) since the eighties, and hadn't realized that the right-wing bogeyman, "PC", really DOES exist, even if it is a tiny minority most of the time. Maybe each post (or poster) should have a label, sensitive, average, or sarcastic. There's a challenge for DU4.

As far as dinner goes, you want the leg of baby, but the Irish...

When Irish hearts are happy,
All the world seems bright and gay,
And when Irish eyes are smiling,
Sure they steal your heart away.


And then they EAT it. Whereas the Scots will take it to the Middle East. Most folks are content to just break the damned thing. I don't know how, liquid nitrogen maybe.
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