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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 11:47 PM Apr 2012

Scenario: SCOTUS strikes down the health care law

The Republicans celebrate their huge SCOTUS victory. While that's happening, Democrats portray the GOP as callous. Americans turn on Republicans.

President Obama wins re-election by a landslide. Democrats gain significant majorities in the House and Senate, allowing them to pass single payer.

Plausible?

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Scenario: SCOTUS strikes down the health care law (Original Post) ProSense Apr 2012 OP
From your lips to a higher power's ears Chantel Apr 2012 #1
According to James Carville "would be the best thing that ever happened to the democratic party"... PoliticAverse Apr 2012 #2
I can see ProSense Apr 2012 #3
Implausible. Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #4
Yes more plausible than if the mandate to prop up the for profit "health" insurance system passes. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #5
This is all I can offer. DocMac Apr 2012 #6
No, not plausible jeff47 Apr 2012 #7
Well, what percentage thinks it's Constitutional? Ter Apr 2012 #8

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. I can see
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 11:56 PM
Apr 2012

why Hot Air would latch onto that statement, but his point:

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“You know what the Democrats are going to say - and it is completely justified: ‘We tried, we did something, go see a 5-4 Supreme Court majority,’” Carville added. “The public has these guys figured out. Our polls show that half think this whole thing is political.”

“Just as a professional Democrat, there’s nothing better to me than overturning this thing 5-4 and then the Republican Party will own the health care system for the foreseeable future. And I really believe that. That is not spin,” Carville said.

<...>

“What would be great for Americans is if the justices uphold the Affordable Care Act so that we can make sure that the Republicans aren’t allowed to drag us backward to the days where insurance companies are making the decisions for what’s best in terms of your healthcare,” she said Tuesday night.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/74577.html#ixzz1qwj3grPw

Not exactly the OP point.

Uncle Joe

(58,372 posts)
5. Yes more plausible than if the mandate to prop up the for profit "health" insurance system passes.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:00 AM
Apr 2012

Because if the mandate passes, the good parts of the law will camouflage the fundamental structural problems giving that dysfunctional industry time and even more resources to obliquely wage Citizens United war against any political leader championing non-profit single payer of any kind along with eliminating or reducing the good parts of the law.

Thanks for the thread, ProSense.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
7. No, not plausible
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:04 AM
Apr 2012

The public option couldn't even get a hearing in the ACA, much less single-payer. Sanders reports there was only about 8-10 votes for single-payer in the Senate, and that can't change much in 2012 even if there's a massive progressive wave.

After getting handed such a big "loss", Democrats will run in terror of any sort of healthcare reform for at least a generation.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
8. Well, what percentage thinks it's Constitutional?
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:05 AM
Apr 2012

I'd imagine it's close to 50 50 so either way it won't change anything. Hell, even some supporters say the individual mandate might not be legal.

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