Noam Chomsky: A Surveillance State Beyond Imagination Is Being Created in One of the World's Freest Countries

[Jesus Malverde]

In the past several months, we have been provided with instructive lessons on the nature of state power and the forces that drive state policy. And on a closely related matter: the subtle, differentiated concept of transparency.

The source of the instruction, of course, is the trove of documents about the National Security Agency surveillance system released by the courageous fighter for freedom Edward J. Snowden, expertly summarized and analyzed by his collaborator Glenn Greenwald in his new book, " No Place to Hide."

The documents unveil a remarkable project to expose to state scrutiny vital information about every person who falls within the grasp of the colossus - in principle, every person linked to the modern electronic society.

Nothing so ambitious was imagined by the dystopian prophets of grim totalitarian worlds ahead.

Read More: http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/noam-chomsky-surveillance-state-beyond-imagination-being-created-one-freest

[blkmusclmachine]

1. 9/11 was just the appetizer

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[Live and Learn]

2. K&R nt

[sabrina 1]

3. The only hope now is to sign on to the new movement that is growing by the day

to protect the people's privacy from government spying.

It was inevitable that after the shock wore off after learning of these violations of people's rights, that people would recover and begin to fight back.

We KNOW that the very government that has approved of these egregious crimes against the people will not end them, they will pretend to put 'reforms' in place, but I think most people know that they will not.

So a movement has started where people can protect their phones and computers from the Government.

I will post a link when I find it again. The movement is growing. I don't know how effective the protections will be, but it's a start.

If there were intruders in our physical homes, we would take action to stop them from entering our homes. This is no different and I believe many people are taking action on their own to block the Government spies from their personal lives.

South America eg, is planning to develop its own internet and to bypass the US so that it can protect its own citizens from US spies.

[Dragonfli]

4. Are you talking about "Reset the Net"? The current movement to hamper the NSA

and help people to learn what software and other methods can be used to be more secure from mass spying.

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[sabrina 1]

26. Yes, that is what I was referring to, thanks for the link Dragonfli!

It's a start, at least it shows people are now THINKING about how to defend themselves from the government spying on them. Hopefully those who understand the technology will develop effective defenses for the people so they can keep their privacy intact. But this is a good sign, imo.

[mopinko]

5. did anyone think that total information awareness was just going to slink away?

just because we sniffed it out?

bwaaahahahaha

[Puzzledtraveller]

6. Chomsky must be a racist.

[Dragonfli]

8. DU taught me the other day that he is an "America Hater"

Not only was I taught that, but the teacher claimed to be from "the reality based community" ,
so I knew he must be unusually wise in the ways of such things.

[frylock]

13. my experience has been that if someone feels a need to advertise their status..

they most likely have no affiliation with what it is the pretend to belong to.

[laundry_queen]

25. LOL exactly

Just like when someone says, "trust me" you absolutely should NOT trust them.

[Puzzledtraveller]

16. That must be someone from the same contingent

that has been parroting such Bush era favorites like "un-american" and "anti-american" as of late. I never knew DU was so unabashedly patriotic!

[Dragonfli]

20. Let the Eagle Soar!

On DU like she's never soared before....

[awoke_in_2003]

22. unreal. nt

[sabrina 1]

27. I learned that people like Chomsky are also Republicans posing as liberals to try to hide

their bigotry. And if they are old White Men, watch out.

Wait, Biden is an old white man, isn't he? Bernie Sanders? Clinton? And do not ever again criticize people like Condi or Thomas, I learned that also on DU.

[Dragonfli]

29. Well Chomsky IS white, he IS old, so you do the math...

He is therefor obviously a villain - this is a proven fact because statistics or racism or both, I forget the details.

[mwrguy]

7. What are his thoughts on gold-fringed flags.

[ucrdem]

9. "One of the World's Freest Countries"

That would be Russia according to "courageous fighter for freedom Edward J. Snowden" and "collaborator Glenn Greenwald."

Thanks professor, that will be all.

[Dragonfli]

11. That is a deliberate falsehood and you know it

Neither Snowden nor Greenwald has claimed any such thing.

Do you have anything to add that is true?

[Comrade Grumpy]

14. I hear the sound of axes grinding.

[ucrdem]

15. I keep hearing cuckoo clocks.

I think I like your noise better!

[whatchamacallit]

23. Pathetic

Some folks will do and say anything to obscure the issue. When I think of the enemies of my freedoms, I don't think of the Edward Snowdens, I think of the authoritarian tools who are wiling to give it all up for political expedience.

[sabrina 1]

28. No, it wouldn't. Do you generally just toss out opinions without checking whether they are based on

facts or not? Snowden has spoken for himself on Russia and freedom. Assuming you did not know that, which I will do for argument's sake, now that you know what you just said was incorrect, I'm sure you won't perpetuate it.

[ucrdem]

32. Actually I do check.

You should too.

[Uncle Joe]

10. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Jesus Malverde.

[Enthusiast]

12. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!

[ucrdem]

17. "a remarkable project to expose to state scrutiny vital information about every person . . ."

I think it was called the Bell System back before Reagan broke it up.

[blkmusclmachine]

18. There's Nowhere You Can Go, That We Won't Know

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[ucrdem]

19. Red-light cameras being stopped across Southern California, country

By Steve Scauzillo, San Gabriel Valley Tribune
POSTED: 01/21/14, 7:33 PM PST | UPDATED: ON 01/21/2014 1 COMMENT

Red-light cameras — controversial traffic enforcement devices that can ding an unsuspecting motorist for $500 a pop for minor infractions like illegally turning right on red — are slowly fading to black.

For the first time since they were introduced in the 1980s, statistics show a large drop in the number of cities and counties using the photo enforcement systems. . . .

According to a not-yet-released report on red-light cameras from the Reason Foundation, the number of communities with red-light cameras in the United States has dropped from about 700 in 2011 to 500 at the end of 2013.

http://www.sgvtribune.com/general-news/20140121/red-light-cameras-being-stopped-across-southern-california-country

call it the Obama dividend

[woo me with science]

21. No excuse for it.

[Octafish]

24. Vampires

The principle was lucidly explained by the policy intellectual Samuel P. Huntington, who instructed us that "Power remains strong when it remains in the dark; exposed to the sunlight it begins to evaporate."

[woo me with science]

30. CORRUPTION.

Journalism under assault. Whistleblowers persecuted. Media owned. Propaganda machine in place.

CORRUPTION.

[woo me with science]

31. kick

[ucrdem]

33. Kick for the good times.

Laissez les bons temps rouler!

[woo me with science]

34. kick