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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 04:56 PM Apr 2012

More Vigilante Madness?...this time in Texas


It was just another Tuesday evening in a normally quiet neighborhood in Pearland, Texas, where kids are often found playing with one another and driving go-carts.A family had just returned from Galveston on a spring break excursion, when upon their return, all of a sudden the unthinkable happened.

“You don’t belong in this neighborhood!” These are the words that Jules Moor, a 13-year old black child, says that Deanna Johnson, a middle-aged white female, said to him after Johnson slammed her 2011 Jeep Wrangler into his go-cart on Tuesday, March 13, 2012. According to court documents obtained from Jules’ attorney, Sylvester Anderson, Jules went for a ride in his go-cart in his neighborhood with another 13-year old boy who had been spending spring break with the Moor family. A third minor boy, another friend of Jules’, rode a small bicycle behind the go-cart.

Jules saw two cars behind him while driving back home, so he decided to drive his go-cart completely off the road to his right onto the grassy edge of the neighborhood park to avoid being in the way of traffic.It is then that Jules states that Johnson swung her vehicle across the south-bound lane of the road, ran over the curb onto the grass and deliberately and intentionally rammed her vehicle head-on into the go-cart. According to Jules, Johnson got out of her vehicle and confronted the boys in a hostile and threatening manner yelling “Where do you live? Who are your parents?” while shaking her finger at the kids. Jules goes on to say, “With all due respect, Ma’am, I live down the street,” to which Johnson allegedly tells him that she didn’t care and that she was calling the police. Jules called his mother and told her that Johnson had hit his go-cart and didn’t know why. He thought he was going to die,” said Theresa Moor, mother of Jules. “All I could do was stop what I was doing, grab my keys and make my way to my child.”

As Theresa arrived, she saw that the go-cart had been damaged severely and learned from Jules that Johnson had accused the boys of not living in the neighborhood. As Theresa approached Johnson to find out what happened, Johnson put her palm up to her face in a dismissive manner, refused to talk, went back to her truck and rolled up the windows.
Frustrated at the way things were transpiring, Theresa contacted the police and several Brazoria County Sheriff’s deputies arrived. It is still unclear why Johnson decided to do what she did. Johnson never apologized for ramming her truck into the go-cart and jeopardizing the lives of the three children and according to witnesses, was seen laughing as she spoke with the Sheriff’s deputies. Johnson was not arrested or drug-tested upon the admission of her actions. The Sheriff’s department Captain that came on the scene decided not to arrest Johnson upon consulting with the District Attorney.

http://www.forwardtimesonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=789:vigilante-madness-in-pearlandnot-just-in-sanford-not-just-trayvon-martin&catid=69:local-and-state&Itemid=126

According to Theresa, she overheard Johnson claim that she was trying to “detain” the boys because they looked like some kids that they had seen earlier riding bicycles onto the driveways of houses in the neighborhood.
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More Vigilante Madness?...this time in Texas (Original Post) HipChick Apr 2012 OP
wow Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #1
Meanwhile at Fox News.... Turbineguy Apr 2012 #2
+1,000 freshwest Apr 2012 #16
It's the new "Lynching" NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #3
Isnt this at least attempted manslaughter with ramming a kid with a car? HipChick Apr 2012 #4
You would think! Attempted manslaughter or aggravated assault with a deadly weapon? BeHereNow Apr 2012 #7
hatver you call it, it is certainly criminal! robinlynne Apr 2012 #30
Like I said before, America is not the same for everybody. Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #5
drug tested and charged???? I think not. onethatcares Apr 2012 #25
That is FUCKED up! BeHereNow Apr 2012 #6
This is why we need more guns out there. onehandle Apr 2012 #8
For the kids in the go-cart? You are kidding, right? Electric Monk Apr 2012 #33
If I were the type to construct conspiracy theories Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #9
I don't think there are more...things like this have always occured...but with internet and social HipChick Apr 2012 #10
Yes, but... Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #11
Here is a basic fact about news that every media study in the last 40 years demonstrates alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #15
This is a a very valid point.. HipChick Apr 2012 #18
That could explain a lot Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #19
Very True. NOLALady Apr 2012 #40
I'm impressed by the civility shown by the Black community. MD20 Apr 2012 #20
I happen to think you are right zeemike Apr 2012 #22
It's one thing for bigots to feel all emboldened and empowered Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #32
why wasn't this woman arrested? noiretextatique Apr 2012 #12
That is my question too! BeHereNow Apr 2012 #13
Texas noiretextatique Apr 2012 #42
Looks like the perp is going to be charged with something- BeHereNow Apr 2012 #14
Another Teabagger At Work. freshwest Apr 2012 #17
I hate to say it nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #21
So, I guess she was standing her ground, automotive edition right? Why the fuck wasn't Ecumenist Apr 2012 #23
now,if Moon had shot her dead under Texas' Stand Your Ground law, provis99 Apr 2012 #24
Yeah, well it's inevitable that that's coming........... socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #27
Riding bicycles onto driveways is a reason to try to kill kids? LaurenG Apr 2012 #26
she was detaining them??!? azurnoir Apr 2012 #28
it's lamentable marshall gaines Apr 2012 #31
The case goes before a grand jury next week. Lone_Star_Dem Apr 2012 #29
My how times have changed since I was a kid- BeHereNow Apr 2012 #34
The level of anger and hate are astonishing. Lone_Star_Dem Apr 2012 #35
As far as I can tell this did NOT happen toto053 Apr 2012 #36
It's a legit story tammywammy Apr 2012 #37
I'd never swear for all people..hateful racist live amongst us.. HipChick Apr 2012 #38
Welcome to America, My friend MrScorpio Apr 2012 #39
Apparently, the incident did happen toto053 Apr 2012 #41
I hope they sue her out of her house. Liberal_in_LA Apr 2012 #43

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
7. You would think! Attempted manslaughter or aggravated assault with a deadly weapon?
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 05:21 PM
Apr 2012

What in the HELL did the officers at the scene find so gunny about the situation?????

I hope the mother of the boy had the presence of mind to get the names
of the officers at the scene.

BHN

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
5. Like I said before, America is not the same for everybody.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 05:16 PM
Apr 2012

Not everybody is treated equally.

Notice how she was laughing with the Sheriffs deputies? No drug test, no arrest and no charges. Imagine if a black man rammed a 13-year old white girl while she was riding in a go cart. Would he be laughing and yucking it up with the police? No. Would he be drug tested and charged? Absolutely.

The color of your skin matters in America and it's something you have no control over.

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
25. drug tested and charged???? I think not.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:18 PM
Apr 2012

he'd a been splattered all over the pavement with at least 4 tazer shots and a few 45 rounds.

Yeah, this is getting out of hand.

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
6. That is FUCKED up!
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 05:17 PM
Apr 2012

I hope the mom presses charges.
Takes pictures of the go-cart and documents any statements by the children
or bystanders.

WHAT kind of person does such a thing?
She could have killed those kids!

BHN

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
9. If I were the type to construct conspiracy theories
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 05:24 PM
Apr 2012

I'd say this is part of an organized effort to push the envelope to the point that riots occur, giving ammunition to those who want to thwart our President's reelection. Sure are a lot of these instances lately.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
10. I don't think there are more...things like this have always occured...but with internet and social
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 05:28 PM
Apr 2012

media...getting harder to hide...for many it's an everyday reality

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
11. Yes, but...
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 05:35 PM
Apr 2012

The World Wide Web has been in everyday use for more than a decade, and I don't recall such a rash of incidents like we're currently seeing during that whole period.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. Here is a basic fact about news that every media study in the last 40 years demonstrates
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 06:15 PM
Apr 2012

If an incident makes the news in a big way, similar incidents will also make the news in the weeks that follow. The same incidents could happen all the time, but they suddenly become "newsworthy" when they can be linked to another big news story. I think the classic study on this had to do with mine accidents in Britain. It was shown definitively that the rate of these accidents never changed, nor had their severity. But after a single major mine accident made news, the next several weeks of newspaper coverage had stories on multiple minor accidents that would have been otherwise ignored. It was also shown that previous attempts to get coverage for mine accidents were also failures, and that the editorial decision-making was aware of the possibility of mine accident stories, but didn't accept these as legitimate news until after the major mine accident. Point being: what you're witnessing is a fairly predictable news effect: because of the Martin story, these other stories will be amplified, will come across your media radar. But this type of shit happens all the time, like the mine accidents. The increase is a media effect, not an objective increase. The rate of racist vigilanteism is likely constant over the past several years, if not decades.

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
19. That could explain a lot
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:04 PM
Apr 2012

Still, I wonder if the furor started over the slaying of Trayvon Martin has emboldened some racists to act out what they've wanted to do for a long time, and they're taking their cues from the fact that Zimmerman is still walking around free.

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
40. Very True.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:32 AM
Apr 2012

These incidents have been going on for as long as I can remember. We hear of at least one of these types of incidents at every family gathering.

 

MD20

(123 posts)
20. I'm impressed by the civility shown by the Black community.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:04 PM
Apr 2012

In the wake of such blatant injustice(s), the whole world is judging. These episodes, relatively rare considering the vast population of 300 millions, are uncovering pockets of frustrated white folks who just don't like Blacks and are willing to act upon their prejudices in a violent manner. But what impressions are being formed in countries where people of color reign? What global consequences are we risking when policemen are ignoring pleas from minorities for the fundamental rights guaranteed by "equal protection under the law?"

I would hope that the majority of mainstream America does not endorse the actions of bigots bent on creating chaos and civil disruptions by murdering or injuring innocent people. I truly believe that the majority of us will join hands in combating such hatred by rooting out and prosecuting those who may be conspiring to inflame it. The states where CCW laws are promulgated with such alarming dissonance are suspect for harboring bastions of "conservative" killers driven by fear and hatred. Neither Democrats or Republicans are immune. George Zimmerman is a registered Democrat but his social world view concerning Blacks seems to be right down in the gutter with that of Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh!

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
32. It's one thing for bigots to feel all emboldened and empowered
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:52 PM
Apr 2012

quite another for widely-scattered police departments to deliberately skip doing their fucking jobs - seemingly in unison.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
12. why wasn't this woman arrested?
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 05:51 PM
Apr 2012

please, all you concern trolls who are here defending zimmerman, what's the excuse for this racist lunatic? thanks.

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
13. That is my question too!
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 06:03 PM
Apr 2012

Destruction of property, using a vehicle as a weapon, hell the list goes on!
Am I correct in understanding this woman just walked away from her action and
the situation???
How can that be possible?
BHN

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
42. Texas
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 05:35 PM
Apr 2012

Florida, Arizona, and all the other places where lawlessness seems to be legal might explain this. SYG, open carry, etc...these laws do nothing but encourage this type of extreme vigilantism, of the kind that took Trayvon Martin's life.

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
14. Looks like the perp is going to be charged with something-
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 06:11 PM
Apr 2012

The question remains though, why was she not arrested at the scene of
her crime against these children????

BHN

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
23. So, I guess she was standing her ground, automotive edition right? Why the fuck wasn't
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:13 PM
Apr 2012

she arrested for attempted murder, assault and God knows what ever else she's done? And she wanted to detain them because the RESEMBLED some kinds that RODE BIKE IN THE DRIVEWAYS OF HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD??!! WTF??!!

 

provis99

(13,062 posts)
24. now,if Moon had shot her dead under Texas' Stand Your Ground law,
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:16 PM
Apr 2012

what would the cops have done then?

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
27. Yeah, well it's inevitable that that's coming...........
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:29 PM
Apr 2012

We'll see about the legitimacy of the SYG laws then. Of course, even if they're being "fairly" administered, that just means that we've devolved into a shoot first, wild West mentality. None of these laws are good for society. PERIOD.

However I think that if a couple of black people get away with killing unarmed white people under the SYG law, those laws would QUICKLY be amended or repealed.

Or maybe they would just go ahead and write the law so that it just applies to white on black vigilantism. Why not just make the racist nature blatant. It doesn't seem to matter how blatant it is now in other areas. Why not the law too?

LaurenG

(24,841 posts)
26. Riding bicycles onto driveways is a reason to try to kill kids?
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:24 PM
Apr 2012

There are some terrible and hateful human beings in the world. Too bad there is no such thing as equality.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
28. she was detaining them??!?
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:29 PM
Apr 2012

what is so disturbing about these incidents is the casual, entitled manner in which these acts are committed

 

marshall gaines

(347 posts)
31. it's lamentable
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:47 PM
Apr 2012

I can't say my immediate reaction to this detainer but I can say that she felt she has the right to try to kill and detain black children. It is called the perceived loss of entitlement because the President is of a different race than has ever been seen in this bastion of democracy. Some americans cannot get to that.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
29. The case goes before a grand jury next week.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:34 PM
Apr 2012

Which does nothing to explain why she wasn't arrested at the time. The children were taken to a hospital and treated, not to mention traumatized due to this woman.

At least the mother is suing her. Maybe that will make her think twice next time she decides to ram two kids in a gocart.

Here's a link about her being sued and the grand jury.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/Parents-sue-neighbor-accusing-woman-of-ramming-into-teens-go-kart/-/1735978/9810630/-/ol1hkb/-/index.html

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
34. My how times have changed since I was a kid-
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 08:03 PM
Apr 2012

"They say the neighbor was mad because earlier in the day she witnessed some young boys riding their bikes up and down people's driveways. They believe she mistook those boys for their son and his friend."

When I was a kid, we ran from yard to yard playing until our mom's called us home for dinner,
then we went out after dinner and resumed what ever game we were playing...
Nobody cared- nobody tried to run us down for riding our bikes or skating in their driveways...
What the hell is wrong with people???

Thanks for posting the link LSD.

BHN

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
35. The level of anger and hate are astonishing.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 08:45 PM
Apr 2012

It wasn't like this when I was a kid either. The only place we had to stay away from was Colonel Sucias. He was our local, "get off my law" personality. To be fair he did have one heck of an immaculate lawn.

Now days most people don't even know their neighbors, let alone the neighborhood kids. Many people view their neighborhoods as homogenous gated sanctuaries. A first layer of security to keep the undesirables at a safe distance. Problem with that is "homogenous" and "undesirable" have different meanings to different people. When these ideals clash you end up with disgusting situations like what this woman did.

toto053

(2 posts)
36. As far as I can tell this did NOT happen
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 10:43 PM
Apr 2012

Did anyone think to look at the April fools day date on this post?

While I think if it did happen, it is appalling, I think it is even more appalling that someone would cast aspersions on people in Pearland for an incident which as far as I can find out never happened.

I have searched the BCSO records and find nothing about this at all.

Also, there is no neighborhood given, but I searched the names of the people supposedly involved and they do not live in the same neighborhood though they do live within a few miles of each other. I suspect that an accident happened with a go-cart and a car (which is very probable given the number of go-carts we see in our neighborhoods) and that someone made up a story about it based on the Trayvon Martin case.

Note that in our neighborhoods here, people of all races live in harmony and the kids play together quite peacefully. My grandchildren are half-Indian and half-Caucasian. They play with African American friends in the neighborhood as well as with other Asian and White kids.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
38. I'd never swear for all people..hateful racist live amongst us..
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:54 AM
Apr 2012

and come in all shapes and sizes...

an Indian co-worker once told me, that he never lets his kids play with black or Hispanic kids..when I pressed him on the issue, he turned and walked away...Zimmerman neighborhood was minority majority too...

toto053

(2 posts)
41. Apparently, the incident did happen
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:47 AM
Apr 2012

Unfortunately, I have found out a little more about this and the go-cart accident did happen. The mom of the 13 year old boy is suing the woman who rammed his go-cart with her jeep. There will be a grand jury convening, so the Brazoria County Police did there duty.

I am so horrified to be living in such a racist time and area.

We never experienced racism as asians in the Chicago area when we lived there, but my dil did experience some in Lousiana when we lived there. I knew Texas was bad, but as I said, we live in a very diverse subdivision and people get along with each other in this area. This incident was very close to home for me and I am saddened and angry.

My dh has seen kids riding go-carts on the streets near us, btw, and has wanted to stop them and ask if they needed a license because he was afraid the kids might get hurt given the recklessness of their driving.

I will be monitoring this closely and hoping that justice is done. There have been requests from the mom to pray for the family. I don't pray, but for those that do, please do so.

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