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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould you support cannabis legalisation?
Let's say that we have a proposition to make cannabis legal, subject to the same restrictions as booze (i.e. age regulation, no driving, no handling a firearm). That would include provision to grow your own for personal use or sharing with a few friends.
Would you support legalisation under those provisions?
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Wouldn't use it, but I rarely drink alcohol (and when I do only minimal amounts) and can't imagine why I would do anything else.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)I'm victim to mental illness so taking anything that messes with my perceptions is a very bad idea.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)That's probably a good idea.
Addiction and dependence hang from every branch of my family tree ... I am far better off without
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)msongs
(67,468 posts)you are just trading one drug dealer (government) for another (mexico cartel etc).
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)I was assuming that growing your own for personal use or to share with friends would be legal, the state only getting involved if you were growing commercially.
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)uncle ray
(3,157 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,758 posts)I live in WA.
I would certainly support a National law to do likewise.
ecstatic
(32,766 posts)As long as it followed the same non-smoking rules as most venues. I don't like ANY kind of smoke around me. It gets in my hair, clothes, and contacts and I can't stand it!
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)(well, I vape now) agrees. Were it legal and I smoked some, I would follow the same rules. I don't like pushing my stuff onto unwilling people.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,754 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)why don't you edit this to make a poll?
...but you probably knew I would vote yes, huh?
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Polling is for star members only so I couldn't make it a poll.
petronius
(26,607 posts)Warpy
(111,409 posts)Declaring war on a plant has been just plain stupid.
Uncle Joe
(58,483 posts)Thanks for the thread, Prophet.
GP6971
(31,237 posts)sarisataka
(18,857 posts)I don't choose to smoke but it doesn't bother me if others do
Iggo
(47,583 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)Not sure if I'd use it, but I think legalization would be better than what we're doing now.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)But yes.
locdlib
(176 posts)MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Legalize it, regulate it, tax it just like beer and wine. You can grow a up to a specified quantity for your own use, or give some away.
I would go one step further....you CAN sell it, but only directly to a government approved local "smoke shop". Which would be closely regulated. They have to keep all records and make sure all the taxes and fees are paid. That encourages local entrepreneurship.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)That would probably lead to somethign similar to the microbrew market.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)That is an excellent comparison, I hadn't thought of it.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)you can be sure they are going to make it next to impossible to grow your own- they want the revenue stream.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)You can make your own beer and wine now, as long as you don't sell it. You are limited in the amount you can do so. 100 or 200 gallons yearly depending on how many live in your home. You just can't make your own hard liquor.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I have never understood the hoopla. I still believe it is safer than alcohol.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)jail. Enough of this persecution of our youth. And that is not to say that no one my age is using I know they are.
Blue Owl
(50,536 posts)TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)TYY
mopinko
(70,283 posts)do you live in a cave?
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)I was curious. I got the impression that most of DU were for legalisation but wasn't sure if that was confirmation bias on my part.
hunter
(38,339 posts)Handing that market over to gangsters was a terrible idea, just like the prohibition of alcohol was.
The entire "war on drugs" has to stop.
Gore1FL
(21,164 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,758 posts)Look to your own statehouse for the offending party.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts).... old! I'm 51 now, and really expected to see it come to fruition many years ago. Hell, according to an old article from 2006, it's the number ONE cash crop in 12 states and in the top 3 in 30 states. Think of all those tax dollars going down the drain! Think of all the off-shoot businesses that would pop up in support of the legalization! Bakeries, pipe makers, cookbooks, etc.
We were just talking about this today, with 3 generations of family involved: me, my sister, my son and my 72 year old mother. My mother is all for legalization, but said she wouldn't be able to smoke it, but would gladly eat cookies or other baked goods with marijuana in it to help her with pain. This is a woman who has had 5 open heart surgeries, still suffers with bouts of shingles and has arthritis. She doesn't even smoke cigarettes and said she would probably choke to death if she was to smoke it. That's when I got to educate her a little bit about vaporizing it, but she would still prefer the oral route through eating it.
I still hope to see the law changed in my lifetime, and would love to see it changed in my mom's lifetime. Even though she is in constant pain, she HATES taking pain pills and this would be some much needed relief for her!
Peace,
Ghost
LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)And I would partake of said then legal substance.
frylock
(34,825 posts)davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)As long as we know what's in it is just marijuana and that it hasn't been laced with something more powerful. I'm not sure who makes me more nervous when it comes to this - the illegal drug dealers, or the legal drug companies. We all remember what happened with tobacco.
If we're going to do this - we should also make widely available some kind of device that can tell us just what's in what we're smoking.
Other than that, yeah. There are all kinds of good reasons to legalize marijuana and not many convincing reasons not to.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)I only buy from clubs that do testing.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I believe it's safer than alcohol.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Legalizing and regulating cannabis, and ending the drug war entirely. Not legalization, exactly, or even decriminalization, but ceasing all extra efforts, like the DEA and undercover narcotics units, etc.
Drugs are illegal because they ruin people, families, and communities. But what does a war on drugs do? Ruins people, families, and communities.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)stream to replace the money being lost as more smokers give up tobacco.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Flatpicker
(894 posts)I may never use it, but, I don't drink all that much either.
Just be safe and legal, and taxed. (I'm sorry, we do need the revenue.)
TeamPooka
(24,279 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)And as a die hard Obama supporter should he veto it I wouldbe pissed as hell at him.
Laffy Kat
(16,391 posts)I'm in Colorado and you know what has happened since legalization? NOTHING! Everything is just fine. I'm wondering why it couldn't be marketed like beer and the tax revenue be used to support universal healthcare. I don't use myself, but am fine with other people enjoying it. Frankly, I think it smells loads better than cigarette smoke.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)That's something we really shouldn't forget about.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)than anything Pot has ever caused since it was discovered milleniums ago. The 'Drug War' was nothing more than a money generator for some of the most vile human beings.
End it! And restore all the rights it took away. Sick to death of the phony pretense that our govt actually cares about people, they don't.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Without any doubt.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I voted against the measure in Oregon two years ago. Personally I think the way the measure was structured could have been a little better. My understanding is there will be another measure this year and I will look at it very closely and talk to some friends who know a bit more about it. I hope those that drafted the current measure looked at Colorado and Washington's laws because I think it would be helpful to learn both from the successes and failures of the two states.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I hate the attendant culture and the ritualistic trappings that come with it.
But I hate all of the exact same things about beer and wine and booze as well, and I totally support complete and total legalization of weed immediately. It's idiotic, but it shouldn't be criminal.
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)the sky has not come crashing down here in colorado. it's time to legalize it on the federal level.
WheelWalker
(8,956 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)You have to be a star member to post polls and I'm not so...
Logical
(22,457 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Cannabis prohibition is a cruel and imbecilic joke.
mountain grammy
(26,663 posts)and as for medicinal use, I think the possibilities are limitless.
empire we are
(98 posts)I support and advocate the end of prohibition for all drugs.
As do many others. http://www.leap.cc/
Very few people make their own supply of ethanol by brewing beer, fermenting grapes or distilling whatever. Few people would trouble growing their own weed as it is already an economy of scale commodity and if legal would be as easily obtainable as a 6 pack of ethanol product.
MFM008
(19,827 posts)been here, did this. Yes. In all 48.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)It has a more relaxing effect on most people than alcohol does & it is excellent for inhibiting pain.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)roody
(10,849 posts)War Horse
(931 posts)I'd think that this would be one of the few things a vast majority of DUers agree on
Starboard Tack
(11,181 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Legal here. It is supposedly only for medical purposes but it is easy to get a rec. I think it should just be legal...period.
Corey_Baker08
(2,157 posts)MadrasT
(7,237 posts)I actually don't much care one way or the other. I don't use it, my friends don't use it, it just isn't on my radar at all.
But I do think the current criminal penalties attached to marijuana are fucking ridiculous.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)We need to make it part of the party platform. And act on it.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)I don't even partake but the sheer insanity over cannabis has got to stop. It's being used as nothing more than a means to prey on minority communities and to fill every cell of our for-profit incarceration industry. It's not reefer madness, it's sheer madness because there can be no rational explanation for why it's still illegal.
abakan
(1,819 posts)Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)of possession of cannabis.
Utopian Leftist
(534 posts)alcohol is worse than cannabis.
I would add tobacco is also worse than cannabis.
It should be legal throughout the land.
20score
(4,769 posts)butterfly77
(17,609 posts)ancianita
(36,190 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)KG
(28,753 posts)no laws regarding its use or production.