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Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
Fri May 30, 2014, 09:47 PM May 2014

Would you support cannabis legalisation?

Let's say that we have a proposition to make cannabis legal, subject to the same restrictions as booze (i.e. age regulation, no driving, no handling a firearm). That would include provision to grow your own for personal use or sharing with a few friends.

Would you support legalisation under those provisions?

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Would you support cannabis legalisation? (Original Post) Prophet 451 May 2014 OP
Yes etherealtruth May 2014 #1
I wouldn't use it either Prophet 451 May 2014 #4
Yeah etherealtruth May 2014 #12
yes Duckhunter935 May 2014 #2
only if it includes grow your own without onerous restrictions like those in colorado...otherwsie msongs May 2014 #3
Edited to include that Prophet 451 May 2014 #5
what onerous restrictions are those? fizzgig May 2014 #54
this CO resident wants to know too. uncle ray May 2014 #69
Already did... Wounded Bear May 2014 #6
Sure why not? Just don't smoke around me. ecstatic May 2014 #7
Don't worry. Edibles are increasingly popular. Dark n Stormy Knight May 2014 #77
This cigarette smoker... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #84
Absolutely! CaliforniaPeggy May 2014 #8
yes RainDog May 2014 #9
Can't do polls Prophet 451 May 2014 #10
Yes... (nt) petronius May 2014 #11
Of course Warpy May 2014 #13
Yes so long as there is also a law against bogarting. Uncle Joe May 2014 #14
Of Course. n/t GP6971 May 2014 #15
Sure... sarisataka May 2014 #16
Fuckin' A right, I would. Iggo May 2014 #17
I think so shenmue May 2014 #18
I wouldn't stop at making cannabis legal. Kurska May 2014 #19
Absolutely. locdlib May 2014 #20
I have always supported that path. MicaelS May 2014 #21
I like that idea Prophet 451 May 2014 #32
Thank you. MicaelS May 2014 #36
If it is taxed... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #85
No, that would not be the case. MicaelS Jun 2014 #89
I have supported legalization since the 60's. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #22
Yes (nt) bigwillq May 2014 #23
Yes, and not for myself. I am tired of watching my grandchildren be placed in danger of going to jwirr May 2014 #24
Oh hell yes Blue Owl May 2014 #25
Yes. ..nt TeeYiYi May 2014 #26
what kind of question is this? mopinko May 2014 #27
No, I live in England Prophet 451 May 2014 #30
Yes, legalize it. hunter May 2014 #28
If CO and WA would only quit bogarting that legislation... n/t Gore1FL May 2014 #29
Hey, man. I'd love to pass it along to you... Wounded Bear May 2014 #71
Absolutely. (nt) Jackpine Radical May 2014 #31
HELL YES!!!! I have been an advocate for legalization, taxation and regulation since I was 16 years Ghost in the Machine May 2014 #33
Yes, totally. LisaLynne May 2014 #34
yarp frylock May 2014 #35
Yes - under the condition that it was somewhat regulated. davidthegnome May 2014 #37
testing is becoming the norm in california noiretextatique May 2014 #74
Absolutely passiveporcupine May 2014 #38
I'd take it a step farther Nevernose May 2014 #39
Yes. Legalize and tax the stuff. It would be a good revenue Flatulo May 2014 #40
Yes. Blue_In_AK May 2014 #41
YES. Without reservation. Ed Suspicious May 2014 #42
Of course. nt valerief May 2014 #43
Yes Flatpicker May 2014 #44
Yes. Prohibition is a failed public policy. nt TeamPooka May 2014 #45
Absolutely. MohRokTah May 2014 #46
Sure. Tax the hell out of it, though. Laffy Kat May 2014 #47
Yes, and a general amnesty for all nonviolent pot offenders (nt) Nye Bevan May 2014 #48
+1 F4lconF16 May 2014 #63
Hell Yes. Puts me to sleep but the tax revenue could buy a few meals for children and seniors. Tommymac May 2014 #49
Yes. Even though I have zero interest in it personally, the phony 'drug war' has caused more harm sabrina 1 May 2014 #50
yes seveneyes May 2014 #51
Probably davidpdx May 2014 #52
I despise marijuana. I hate the stench of it. Codeine May 2014 #53
voted for it in 2012 fizzgig May 2014 #55
I would, yes WheelWalker May 2014 #56
Why was this not a poll? nt Logical May 2014 #57
Because I can't make polls Prophet 451 May 2014 #61
OK, makes sense. nt Logical May 2014 #68
Yes Half-Century Man May 2014 #58
Yes. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #59
Of course! mountain grammy May 2014 #60
Absolutely Yes empire we are May 2014 #62
live in WA MFM008 May 2014 #64
Yes. pacalo May 2014 #65
Yes. nt riderinthestorm May 2014 #66
Yes roody May 2014 #67
Of course War Horse May 2014 #70
Yup! Starboard Tack May 2014 #72
Yes. Eleanors38 May 2014 #73
already did...in california noiretextatique May 2014 #75
Yes n/t Corey_Baker08 May 2014 #76
I wouldn't support it or oppose it. MadrasT May 2014 #78
Solid majorities of Democrats and independents support this, according to numerous polls. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #79
Absolutely yes. n/t ohheckyeah May 2014 #80
Yes, absolutely theHandpuppet May 2014 #81
In a New York Minute! nt abakan May 2014 #82
Yes. The prisons are overcrowded because they're full of people convicted Louisiana1976 May 2014 #83
As the President has said, Utopian Leftist May 2014 #86
Of course! Prohibition is evil and the people supporting prohibition are on the moral low ground. 20score May 2014 #87
Yes. butterfly77 May 2014 #88
Yes. Since the 70's I've been for this. ancianita Jun 2014 #90
Hell yes hobbit709 Jun 2014 #91
decriminalization. KG Jun 2014 #92

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
1. Yes
Fri May 30, 2014, 09:49 PM
May 2014

Wouldn't use it, but I rarely drink alcohol (and when I do only minimal amounts) and can't imagine why I would do anything else.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
4. I wouldn't use it either
Fri May 30, 2014, 09:51 PM
May 2014

I'm victim to mental illness so taking anything that messes with my perceptions is a very bad idea.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
12. Yeah
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:00 PM
May 2014

That's probably a good idea.

Addiction and dependence hang from every branch of my family tree ... I am far better off without

msongs

(67,468 posts)
3. only if it includes grow your own without onerous restrictions like those in colorado...otherwsie
Fri May 30, 2014, 09:50 PM
May 2014

you are just trading one drug dealer (government) for another (mexico cartel etc).

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
5. Edited to include that
Fri May 30, 2014, 09:52 PM
May 2014

I was assuming that growing your own for personal use or to share with friends would be legal, the state only getting involved if you were growing commercially.

ecstatic

(32,766 posts)
7. Sure why not? Just don't smoke around me.
Fri May 30, 2014, 09:53 PM
May 2014

As long as it followed the same non-smoking rules as most venues. I don't like ANY kind of smoke around me. It gets in my hair, clothes, and contacts and I can't stand it!

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
84. This cigarette smoker...
Sat May 31, 2014, 08:15 PM
May 2014

(well, I vape now) agrees. Were it legal and I smoked some, I would follow the same rules. I don't like pushing my stuff onto unwilling people.

shenmue

(38,506 posts)
18. I think so
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:19 PM
May 2014

Not sure if I'd use it, but I think legalization would be better than what we're doing now.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
21. I have always supported that path.
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:31 PM
May 2014

Legalize it, regulate it, tax it just like beer and wine. You can grow a up to a specified quantity for your own use, or give some away.

I would go one step further....you CAN sell it, but only directly to a government approved local "smoke shop". Which would be closely regulated. They have to keep all records and make sure all the taxes and fees are paid. That encourages local entrepreneurship.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
85. If it is taxed...
Sat May 31, 2014, 08:17 PM
May 2014

you can be sure they are going to make it next to impossible to grow your own- they want the revenue stream.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
89. No, that would not be the case.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 10:12 AM
Jun 2014

You can make your own beer and wine now, as long as you don't sell it. You are limited in the amount you can do so. 100 or 200 gallons yearly depending on how many live in your home. You just can't make your own hard liquor.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
22. I have supported legalization since the 60's.
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:31 PM
May 2014

I have never understood the hoopla. I still believe it is safer than alcohol.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
24. Yes, and not for myself. I am tired of watching my grandchildren be placed in danger of going to
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:33 PM
May 2014

jail. Enough of this persecution of our youth. And that is not to say that no one my age is using I know they are.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
30. No, I live in England
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:51 PM
May 2014

I was curious. I got the impression that most of DU were for legalisation but wasn't sure if that was confirmation bias on my part.

hunter

(38,339 posts)
28. Yes, legalize it.
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:44 PM
May 2014

Handing that market over to gangsters was a terrible idea, just like the prohibition of alcohol was.

The entire "war on drugs" has to stop.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
33. HELL YES!!!! I have been an advocate for legalization, taxation and regulation since I was 16 years
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:55 PM
May 2014

.... old! I'm 51 now, and really expected to see it come to fruition many years ago. Hell, according to an old article from 2006, it's the number ONE cash crop in 12 states and in the top 3 in 30 states. Think of all those tax dollars going down the drain! Think of all the off-shoot businesses that would pop up in support of the legalization! Bakeries, pipe makers, cookbooks, etc.

We were just talking about this today, with 3 generations of family involved: me, my sister, my son and my 72 year old mother. My mother is all for legalization, but said she wouldn't be able to smoke it, but would gladly eat cookies or other baked goods with marijuana in it to help her with pain. This is a woman who has had 5 open heart surgeries, still suffers with bouts of shingles and has arthritis. She doesn't even smoke cigarettes and said she would probably choke to death if she was to smoke it. That's when I got to educate her a little bit about vaporizing it, but she would still prefer the oral route through eating it.

I still hope to see the law changed in my lifetime, and would love to see it changed in my mom's lifetime. Even though she is in constant pain, she HATES taking pain pills and this would be some much needed relief for her!

Peace,

Ghost

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
37. Yes - under the condition that it was somewhat regulated.
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:00 PM
May 2014

As long as we know what's in it is just marijuana and that it hasn't been laced with something more powerful. I'm not sure who makes me more nervous when it comes to this - the illegal drug dealers, or the legal drug companies. We all remember what happened with tobacco.

If we're going to do this - we should also make widely available some kind of device that can tell us just what's in what we're smoking.

Other than that, yeah. There are all kinds of good reasons to legalize marijuana and not many convincing reasons not to.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
39. I'd take it a step farther
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:05 PM
May 2014

Legalizing and regulating cannabis, and ending the drug war entirely. Not legalization, exactly, or even decriminalization, but ceasing all extra efforts, like the DEA and undercover narcotics units, etc.

Drugs are illegal because they ruin people, families, and communities. But what does a war on drugs do? Ruins people, families, and communities.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
40. Yes. Legalize and tax the stuff. It would be a good revenue
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:06 PM
May 2014

stream to replace the money being lost as more smokers give up tobacco.

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
44. Yes
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:22 PM
May 2014

I may never use it, but, I don't drink all that much either.

Just be safe and legal, and taxed. (I'm sorry, we do need the revenue.)

Laffy Kat

(16,391 posts)
47. Sure. Tax the hell out of it, though.
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:40 PM
May 2014

I'm in Colorado and you know what has happened since legalization? NOTHING! Everything is just fine. I'm wondering why it couldn't be marketed like beer and the tax revenue be used to support universal healthcare. I don't use myself, but am fine with other people enjoying it. Frankly, I think it smells loads better than cigarette smoke.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
49. Hell Yes. Puts me to sleep but the tax revenue could buy a few meals for children and seniors.
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:45 PM
May 2014
(Need a tokin' smilie)

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
50. Yes. Even though I have zero interest in it personally, the phony 'drug war' has caused more harm
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:50 PM
May 2014

than anything Pot has ever caused since it was discovered milleniums ago. The 'Drug War' was nothing more than a money generator for some of the most vile human beings.

End it! And restore all the rights it took away. Sick to death of the phony pretense that our govt actually cares about people, they don't.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
52. Probably
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:54 PM
May 2014

I voted against the measure in Oregon two years ago. Personally I think the way the measure was structured could have been a little better. My understanding is there will be another measure this year and I will look at it very closely and talk to some friends who know a bit more about it. I hope those that drafted the current measure looked at Colorado and Washington's laws because I think it would be helpful to learn both from the successes and failures of the two states.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
53. I despise marijuana. I hate the stench of it.
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:11 AM
May 2014

I hate the attendant culture and the ritualistic trappings that come with it.

But I hate all of the exact same things about beer and wine and booze as well, and I totally support complete and total legalization of weed immediately. It's idiotic, but it shouldn't be criminal.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
55. voted for it in 2012
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:20 AM
May 2014

the sky has not come crashing down here in colorado. it's time to legalize it on the federal level.

empire we are

(98 posts)
62. Absolutely Yes
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:57 AM
May 2014

I support and advocate the end of prohibition for all drugs.
As do many others. http://www.leap.cc/


Very few people make their own supply of ethanol by brewing beer, fermenting grapes or distilling whatever. Few people would trouble growing their own weed as it is already an economy of scale commodity and if legal would be as easily obtainable as a 6 pack of ethanol product.



pacalo

(24,721 posts)
65. Yes.
Sat May 31, 2014, 04:49 AM
May 2014

It has a more relaxing effect on most people than alcohol does & it is excellent for inhibiting pain.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
75. already did...in california
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:42 PM
May 2014

Legal here. It is supposedly only for medical purposes but it is easy to get a rec. I think it should just be legal...period.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
78. I wouldn't support it or oppose it.
Sat May 31, 2014, 03:12 PM
May 2014

I actually don't much care one way or the other. I don't use it, my friends don't use it, it just isn't on my radar at all.

But I do think the current criminal penalties attached to marijuana are fucking ridiculous.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
79. Solid majorities of Democrats and independents support this, according to numerous polls.
Sat May 31, 2014, 03:17 PM
May 2014

We need to make it part of the party platform. And act on it.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
81. Yes, absolutely
Sat May 31, 2014, 03:25 PM
May 2014

I don't even partake but the sheer insanity over cannabis has got to stop. It's being used as nothing more than a means to prey on minority communities and to fill every cell of our for-profit incarceration industry. It's not reefer madness, it's sheer madness because there can be no rational explanation for why it's still illegal.

Utopian Leftist

(534 posts)
86. As the President has said,
Sat May 31, 2014, 08:54 PM
May 2014

alcohol is worse than cannabis.

I would add tobacco is also worse than cannabis.

It should be legal throughout the land.

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