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Uh Ms. Obama-- you are smoking hot! (Original Post) trumad Apr 2012 OP
According to all the right wingers her but is too big n/t doc03 Apr 2012 #1
they don't like her ifs & ands either bigtree Apr 2012 #3
They are morons... She is elegant, tall and NOT PETITE... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #4
+1 Scuba Apr 2012 #7
LOL... I guess they like their women to have hips like men then fascisthunter Apr 2012 #6
Man, you are one deep-thinker there, pal... holy april fool Apr 2012 #10
I miss the old trolls on DU...these new ones don't even really try anymore. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #15
Yes you are...sad. trollhouse cookies Apr 2012 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #84
yeah... real "deep" thread fascisthunter Apr 2012 #91
It's part of their myopic thinking, they can't imagine sexy being anything other than what they uponit7771 Apr 2012 #16
yep :) bigtree Apr 2012 #2
Ah... Wait Wut Apr 2012 #9
I love that she has her own unique style lunatica Apr 2012 #5
Psssttt.... that's MRS. Obama to you. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #8
She's beautiful, but more importantly, SwissTony Apr 2012 #11
Couldn't have said it better. hifiguy Apr 2012 #40
The physical appearance of the First Lady MineralMan Apr 2012 #12
Yea, but she's really hot ! :>))) pangaia Apr 2012 #17
No---She's fucking smoking hot.. trumad Apr 2012 #18
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #63
Classy. You are a real catch I bet! Logical Apr 2012 #117
Yeah I am actually... trumad Apr 2012 #119
I wanna fantasize about your mama's ass/. trollin in the deep. Apr 2012 #131
What makes her different from any other woman that men lust after? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #36
Not a thing makes her different. MineralMan Apr 2012 #39
But you said we shouldn't lust after her because she's married to the president... DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #43
Publicly lusting after the First Lady MineralMan Apr 2012 #50
So if lust after her in private, that's okay? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #52
~~~whoosh~~~ MadrasT Apr 2012 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #82
Damn! I betted on 'patriarchy' as the magic word to refute my post... DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #95
"Betted?" helloimustbegoing Apr 2012 #103
Write a post in perfect Dutch and let me have a laugh, too. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #106
I was providing information, not correcting you. MineralMan Apr 2012 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #83
I can't remember any such post. That does not mean someone didn't MineralMan Apr 2012 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #87
Thanks for your assurance. Truly. MineralMan Apr 2012 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #92
BAWHAHAHAHA!!! Rex Apr 2012 #105
Too bad you never explain WHY you think it's in bad taste to compliment somebody with her appearance DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #98
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #61
lighten the fuck up, and stop with all the gutter talk DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #110
You've Been Spending Too Much Time With Your Rocks... WillyT Apr 2012 #114
oh please lillypaddle Apr 2012 #135
she's so beautiful and elegant. this is what you look like when you're happy in your own skin roguevalley Apr 2012 #13
she has fabulous taste La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #14
I've totally imprinted on Michelle Obama. I cannot resist any picture of her and what she is wearing applegrove Apr 2012 #19
lol. thats cute La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #121
Agreed! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #20
smokin hot? Texasgal Apr 2012 #21
Nope---Smokin Hot will do. trumad Apr 2012 #26
What's wrong with being smoking hot? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #37
As long as you're not literally on fire Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #116
She looks fab! Number23 Apr 2012 #22
That woman on the left? Lex Apr 2012 #23
Ha!! Number23 Apr 2012 #24
my daughter watched the Kids' Choice awards and saw her there renate Apr 2012 #25
same here-- that was a nice moment NoMoreWarNow Apr 2012 #28
Ladies...Hook me up with this outfit! vaberella Apr 2012 #27
yes, she looks really good, but keep in mind that she has a small army of people whose job it is to NoMoreWarNow Apr 2012 #29
Bullshit trumad Apr 2012 #30
depends how you define "small army" NoMoreWarNow Apr 2012 #113
unnnn, she was stylish BEFORE she got into office uponit7771 Apr 2012 #33
and now she has more resources to be stylish, so what? NoMoreWarNow Apr 2012 #112
rowr NatBurner Apr 2012 #31
True dat madokie Apr 2012 #32
These types of threads make me squeamish n2doc Apr 2012 #34
If they make you squeamish, then don't enter them or just trash them. trumad Apr 2012 #35
After all, sex is dirty, as we all know. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #38
She is a natural beauty, and has great taste. HappyMe Apr 2012 #41
I see the calls for civility and respect for women have gone as per usual. nt redqueen Apr 2012 #42
How is it disrespectful to compliment women on their beauty? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #44
I've learned that on DU there are always a few... trumad Apr 2012 #45
Oh, I know, I predicted it as well. Two of the usual suspects have already shown up... DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #48
*rolls eyes* Texasgal Apr 2012 #49
An alert for what? trumad Apr 2012 #64
What makes you think your OP got an alert? MineralMan Apr 2012 #66
You can't compliment women, or say negative things (or hold doors now) The Straight Story Apr 2012 #46
Bwahahaha! Kaleko Apr 2012 #55
maybe women don't give a shit what other people think of their "beauty" ... why should they? Scout Apr 2012 #125
If they don't care, they are free to ignore it and carry on with whatever they were doing... DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #128
more of that amateur psycho analysis.... Scout Apr 2012 #133
"Maybe women don`t give a shit... " opiate69 Apr 2012 #130
Indeed they have. MineralMan Apr 2012 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #86
c'mon redqueen, you KNOW all women are supposed to care deeply and passionately Scout Apr 2012 #123
For someone who doesn't care, you sure make a lot of fuss. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #129
i wasn't talking about or to trumad Scout Apr 2012 #134
Then why all the attempts to position yourself as more pure, more pious, more mature than others? DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #137
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #47
I liked the photo when she met Taylor Swift LynneSin Apr 2012 #51
So, tell me.... Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #53
Makes a person wonder, doesn't it? MineralMan Apr 2012 #59
Agreed. Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #60
I agree. The First Lady is a very good-looking woman, MineralMan Apr 2012 #65
Telling a woman she's hot implies you want to fuck her--- trumad Apr 2012 #70
Do I sound outdated? So be it. MineralMan Apr 2012 #71
So in yur mind when my wife said a guy was hot in the mall trumad Apr 2012 #72
I do not know your wife, so I couldn't say. MineralMan Apr 2012 #73
But you say that implies the thought of intercourse--does it or does it not? trumad Apr 2012 #74
Thanks for quoting what I wrote. MineralMan Apr 2012 #75
So calling a man hot is the same thing? trumad Apr 2012 #77
Yup. Correct, at least at some level. MineralMan Apr 2012 #78
at least at some level? trumad Apr 2012 #79
Worried? No. If she posted it online, though, I'd be a little more MineralMan Apr 2012 #80
NO shit!!!! Rex Apr 2012 #104
"Both make me think that the poster is thinking about things I'd rather not imagine". trumad Apr 2012 #68
Nope. We wouldn't. MineralMan Apr 2012 #69
This whole sub-thread is hilarious JonLP24 Apr 2012 #76
You know, your post reveals a whole lot more about you than it does about the OP... DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #99
Why is that what image you have in your head now? Rex Apr 2012 #102
I've always thought that. closeupready Apr 2012 #54
She's really lovely inside and out. AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #81
wow. Texasgal Apr 2012 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #93
Who had the tantrum? Texasgal Apr 2012 #94
Nah, you know perfectly well whom/what he referred to. DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #101
I wouldn't call that a tantrum. Texasgal Apr 2012 #115
So we're seeing actual tantrums which are blamed on imaginary tantrums... redqueen Apr 2012 #118
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #138
Opposite world to the 4 or 5 of you in this thread who have reached for the smelling salts. trumad Apr 2012 #120
predictable trumad Apr 2012 #97
that was a long time ago, and it was only 26,000 posts, so stop saying that. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #111
Hyperbole at its best. MineralMan Apr 2012 #90
Don't sweat it---there a small minority. trumad Apr 2012 #96
Yep, reading some of the replies, I thought this had become 'Santorum Underground'! DutchLiberal Apr 2012 #100
BWAAAA ha ha ha ha ha! callous taoboy Apr 2012 #108
Ding Ding Ding... Oh fuck that. Warren, man, once again I couldn't have said it better myself. callous taoboy Apr 2012 #107
totally agree--she's smoking hot DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #109
This is how I picture you right now: do the hustle Apr 2012 #122
It is not good form for newbies - hifiguy Apr 2012 #124
The above troll has been banished to his bridge. hifiguy Apr 2012 #126
I like Spam. trumad Apr 2012 #127
This is how I picture you right now: Rex Apr 2012 #132
Smokin hot. Dazzlingly smokin hot. callous taoboy Apr 2012 #136

hlthe2b

(102,277 posts)
4. They are morons... She is elegant, tall and NOT PETITE...
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 10:49 AM
Apr 2012

Her butt-- and the rest of her-- are in proportion. She isn't a photoshopped, air-brushed anorexic celeb/model-- that some seem to (inexplicably) celebrate.

to you, Michelle

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
6. LOL... I guess they like their women to have hips like men then
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 10:50 AM
Apr 2012

because her butt isn't big, it's feminine.

 

holy april fool

(4 posts)
10. Man, you are one deep-thinker there, pal...
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 11:44 AM
Apr 2012

You must have really meditated upon the spiritual essence of Michelle's...booty...

Oh and thanks for really seeing a woman's worth!

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
15. I miss the old trolls on DU...these new ones don't even really try anymore.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 01:44 PM
Apr 2012

Is everything done so shoddily these days, or is it just me?

There are still a left few here that just skirt the TOS and stay within bounds, and at least are mildly amusing in their gyrations, but, these latest ones are so artless, so gauche, so....sad.

Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #15)

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
16. It's part of their myopic thinking, they can't imagine sexy being anything other than what they
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 01:45 PM
Apr 2012

...think it is

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
11. She's beautiful, but more importantly,
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 12:36 PM
Apr 2012

she just exudes intelligence, dignity, grace...the list goes on.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
40. Couldn't have said it better.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 11:04 AM
Apr 2012

The most elegant FLOTUS since Jackie Kennedy.

She was a classmate of mine in law school, though I didn't know her.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
12. The physical appearance of the First Lady
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 12:41 PM
Apr 2012

is really irrelevant. Yes, she's a good-looking woman, but I'm not sure how or why that matters, really. As for being "hot," that's even more irrelevant. She's the wife of the President of The United States, not someone to lust after, IMO. Just my opinion.

Response to trumad (Reply #18)

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
119. Yeah I am actually...
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:44 AM
Apr 2012

Now why don't you join the other 5 in this thread crying about this.

You can for a group.

Boring.

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
36. What makes her different from any other woman that men lust after?
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:38 AM
Apr 2012

Your post doesn't make even the slightest bit sense.

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
43. But you said we shouldn't lust after her because she's married to the president...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 11:50 AM
Apr 2012

So I'm asking you: why is that, in your mind, a criterium for not lusting after her?

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
50. Publicly lusting after the First Lady
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:27 PM
Apr 2012

is, well, in awfully bad taste, I think. You can do it, if you like, and I can say it's in bad taste. Saying that the First Lady is "hot" is in bad taste. If you like, you can show bad taste anytime you wish. It's really up to you. But, I can say it's in bad taste here, too.

BTW, a "criterium" is a type of bicycle race. A "criterion" is a basis for an opinion.

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
52. So if lust after her in private, that's okay?
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 01:00 PM
Apr 2012

Is lusting after ordinary women in public bad taste? Or lusting after celebrities? Or just when it's the First Lady?

Saying that the First Lady is "hot" is in bad taste.


No, it's not. It's your opinion of "bad taste". You don't get to decide for others what's bad taste and what's not.

Interesting... when a woman on DU would say Barack Obama is "hot", you can bet NO man, not a single man, would make a fuss over it.

BTW, a "criterium" is a type of bicycle race. A "criterion" is a basis for an opinion.


You write a post in perfect Dutch first, then come back to correct me.

Response to MadrasT (Reply #56)

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
95. Damn! I betted on 'patriarchy' as the magic word to refute my post...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:26 PM
Apr 2012

Ah well, you can't win every time...

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
57. I was providing information, not correcting you.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 01:26 PM
Apr 2012

Last edited Mon Apr 2, 2012, 02:16 PM - Edit history (1)

If I spoke and wrote Dutch, I would be thankful for information on that language from a native speaker. That is the way one improves his or her use of a language.

But, never mind.

Lusting after women in private is one's own business. When it becomes a public statement, then it is something that can be commented on in public. When I say that something is in "bad taste," I am expressing my opinion. That is the case with almost all statements I make here that do not contain simple data. I do get to decide what I think is in bad taste and I get to comment on it here. You can disagree with my opinion, of course. DU is a public forum, and both statements are equally allowed. I believe that suggesting a desire to have intercourse with the wife of the President of The United States seems to me to be in bad taste. And what else is being suggested when that person is referred to as "hot." There is no doubt that Michelle Obama is a good-looking woman. The President is lucky to have found her. I do not have any sexual thoughts when I see her, or when I see other women who may be attractive but who are married to others. It's just not how I think.

As for women on DU, I do not remember any of them voicing that opinion of Obama. Someone may have, but I don't remember it.

Expressing sexual interest in public figures is just common. And by common, I don't mean that such expressions are frequently made. I'm using one of the secondary definitions of the word. Specifically, definition 6 in the entry below:

com·mon (kmn)
adj. com·mon·er, com·mon·est
1.
a. Belonging equally to or shared equally by two or more; joint: common interests.
b. Of or relating to the community as a whole; public: for the common good. See Usage Note at mutual.
2. Widespread; prevalent.
3.
a. Occurring frequently or habitually; usual.
b. Most widely known; ordinary: the common housefly.
4. Having no special designation, status, or rank: a common sailor.
5.
a. Not distinguished by superior or noteworthy characteristics; average: the common spectator.
b. Of no special quality; standard: common procedure.
c. Of mediocre or inferior quality; second-rate: common cloth.
6. Unrefined or coarse in manner; vulgar: behavior that branded him as common.

Response to MineralMan (Reply #57)

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
85. I can't remember any such post. That does not mean someone didn't
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 04:41 PM
Apr 2012

post that. I don't read 100% of what is posted on DU. I believe that's what I said in the post you replied to, actually. I did not say no such post existed. I said I couldn't remember such a post. I also said that didn't mean that nobody said that. I'm pretty sure I wrote clearly.

Response to MineralMan (Reply #85)

Response to MineralMan (Reply #89)

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
98. Too bad you never explain WHY you think it's in bad taste to compliment somebody with her appearance
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:40 PM
Apr 2012

And I didn't see anybody say they wanted to have sex with Michelle Obama. All they said was that they thought she was hot. Any additional connotations and suggestions are all your words, not those of others, so maybe you shouldn't put them in their mouths.

But even if they meant that, I still don't see how that's in bad taste. I think it's in bad taste to comment negatively on womens' appearances. E.g. to say "I'd never do HER" or "my god, she's fugly" or something like that. That would be in bad taste. But to compliment a woman...? I don't see why. Unless you think sex is something dirty and disgusting. Otherwise, I wouldn't know why.

On Barack Obama: I said "if". IF a woman on DU said Obama is "hot", nobody would make an issue out of it. Not a man, at least. Not one, not a single one. In fact, I've seen videos posted on DU during the election of 2008 of the so-called 'Obama girl' who was constantly singing about how hot the guy was, supported by pictures of a bare-chested Obama in swim gear. I don't recall one man making a fuss about it.

I do not have any sexual thoughts when I see her, or when I see other women who may be attractive but who are married to others. It's just not how I think.


Oh, puh-leeze! Whether or not somebody is married doesn't change her physical appeal. You are either attracted to somebody or you aren't. You're not telling me that when you see a woman whom you think is attractive, suddenly, magically, becomes unattractive to you once you see her wedding ring. Impossible.

Response to DutchLiberal (Reply #52)

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
110. lighten the fuck up, and stop with all the gutter talk
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 08:06 PM
Apr 2012

You and this other poster talking about...the bending over thing. Jesuschristonastick, what's wrong with you? In your attempt to be King Prude of the Unrealistic Realm, you engaged in a back-and-forth that was filthier than most anything I've seen at DU. Sure, I've seen worse at other sites, but we don't typically allow sex threads here, and therefore we don't see "bend her over" language here. Really and truly, in your zeal to stop anyone from talking about what you don't want talked about, you engaged in a conversation far worse than the innocent (and accurate) OP. I have to completely agree with the post that (at the time of this writing) occupies the last spot in this thread. This is the same sort of disgust I feel when I think of Rick Santorum exhorting us not to think of the EVILLLLS of SEX. Fucking gross, dude. Really gross.

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
19. I've totally imprinted on Michelle Obama. I cannot resist any picture of her and what she is wearing
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 09:38 PM
Apr 2012

Number23

(24,544 posts)
24. Ha!!
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 03:01 AM
Apr 2012
I had that same outfit for my Barbie, circa 1975.


That's EXACTLY what she looks like too. An old, incredibly OLD, Barbie doll. Wonder if that ensemble comes with powder blue eyeshadow??

renate

(13,776 posts)
25. my daughter watched the Kids' Choice awards and saw her there
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 03:14 AM
Apr 2012

She was THRILLED by what Taylor Swift said about how she's always wanted to meet Mrs. Obama and how it was an honor to get the award from her--or words to that effect (I wasn't taking notes).
I've always thought Taylor Swift seemed like a sweetie, and now I have another reason to like her.

But that's OT... Michelle did a great job presenting the award, and I love how she seemed like a natural choice to be there. I don't dislike Laura Bush but she just would not have made the same connection.

 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
29. yes, she looks really good, but keep in mind that she has a small army of people whose job it is to
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 07:58 AM
Apr 2012

keep her looking good. But it's nice to see a first lady with a more modern sense of fashion.

 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
113. depends how you define "small army"
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 09:03 PM
Apr 2012

but clearly she has several people who help her to look good. Not saying that there is anything wrong with that.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
32. True dat
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 08:23 AM
Apr 2012

Nothing as wonderful as an intelligent person who is also beautiful to look at.
Personally I think she is the most beautiful first lady this nation has ever had, bar none.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
34. These types of threads make me squeamish
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 09:26 AM
Apr 2012

They really aren't far off from the RW'ers threads on Palin. She is Mrs. Obama, the first lady, after all. Can't we just complement her on her fashion sense without making things sexual?

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
35. If they make you squeamish, then don't enter them or just trash them.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:16 AM
Apr 2012

Do you really think that just because a couple of DU'ers hit the feinting couch because I call Michelle Obama hot, that I'll stop saying she is hot?

Again--- if you feel dizzy when reading things like this---then don't fucking read it.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
41. She is a natural beauty, and has great taste.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 11:12 AM
Apr 2012

Smart as hell besides.

The lady on the left should have chosen a plain black skirt. I don't like the bedazzled look, but that's just me.

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
44. How is it disrespectful to compliment women on their beauty?
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 11:53 AM
Apr 2012

Why does everything always have to be sooooooo black and white in your view? Why does saying a woman is hot cancel out respect for said woman, in your mind? It doesn't in my mind. In my mind, an intelligent, strong woman can be hot. Hot women can be intelligent. I don't have any less respect for a women that I find hot. Why is complimenting a women on her beauty a bad thing? It's almost like YOU don't respect beautiful women.

Like women never refer to men as 'hot'...

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
45. I've learned that on DU there are always a few...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:06 PM
Apr 2012

I knew when I posted this thread there would be a couple of members---usually the same---who would come in and get all huffy because I dare say the First Lady is Hot.

Ms. Obama was hot before she was the First Lady---she was hot before she was a Senators wife--- and she was hot before she became Mrs. Obama.

What these few dissenting members want us to do is to eliminate the word hot as a description for a beautiful woman.

What these few dissenters want to do is control what is said here on DU.

If it was left to them this place would be as dull as paint.





 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
48. Oh, I know, I predicted it as well. Two of the usual suspects have already shown up...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:10 PM
Apr 2012

I'm still waiting for the other two...

By the way, I don't think she's so hot.

I wouldn't kick her out of bed, though.

^ How many alerts would that comment get me?

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
49. *rolls eyes*
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:17 PM
Apr 2012

Oh please.

You are just itching for an alert and a jury so you can go into H&M and whine and freak out over it.

I won't give you the pleasure.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
64. An alert for what?
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 01:56 PM
Apr 2012

Did I attack you?

Oh and BTW---trust me--- I'm certain that I have been alerted on in this thread by the usual alert nannies.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
66. What makes you think your OP got an alert?
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 02:00 PM
Apr 2012

I don't imagine any jury would have locked it. Now, there was one further down in the thread that did get locked, but your OP would survive a jury, I think.

Personally, I'd rather comment on it within the thread and point out that lusting after the First Lady is in bad taste. But, then, I don't alert on posts very often.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
46. You can't compliment women, or say negative things (or hold doors now)
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:07 PM
Apr 2012

Every interaction must be well planned and thought out so as not to offend someone.

Du is like that Windows Mine sweeper game at times.

"Wow, she is really pretty/hot!"

"Why did you say that about her? Do you call men pretty/hot? Why do you hate women and want to oppress them??"

What should probably have been said was:

(While sipping some good 'hot' tea perhaps with your pinky in the air)

"I say, I was noticing the first family today and how elegant they all appeared in their attire. They are indeed quite the fetching family. Why it was just yesterday it seems like the Holiday Greeting card with that green tree in the background made the rounds (can't say Christmas, an oppressive cracker holiday) and I had thought to myself at the time that the first family could not possibly look more radiant and elegant. It appears I was mistaken in my earlier analysis."

(reads through DU and sees this thread)

"Oh my dear. Martha, come look at this awful internet and the brutish treatment of the first family. I must say, I am not shocked at such foul language. Had the bloody Americans not broken away I dare say they would have some proper manners. Here is a person complimenting someone using their own vernacular - the nerve of such people! I am hoping dearly that the poor first lady has not looked in upon such a horrid thread, it would probably bring her to tears being called such horrid words."

Martha: "Oh my goodness yes. I think I should call a bobby around if someone referred to the queen as 'hot'. And on the internets of all places? The whole world will see how uncouth such louts are. Can you alert on the bloke and maybe some jury with common sense will knock him a round?"

Kaleko

(4,986 posts)
55. Bwahahaha!
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 01:22 PM
Apr 2012

I'd actually love to see more of that sort of comportment henceforth on this site. Well spoken, Straight chap. That's a sure-fire DUzy. LOL.

Scout

(8,624 posts)
125. maybe women don't give a shit what other people think of their "beauty" ... why should they?
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:59 PM
Apr 2012

so perhaps it's not a compliment for a stranger to say they think she's hot.

if i don't know "you," i could not give a flying fuck if you think i'm hot or not. i feel good about myself whether i get "compliments" from strangers or not.

why do so many people put so much stock in whether or not other people think they are hot and fuckable? especially strangers?

let's see, how long before i'm accused of being ugly, jealous, fat, feminazi, and against sex ... waiting for the usual slurs from the usual suspects

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
128. If they don't care, they are free to ignore it and carry on with whatever they were doing...
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:41 PM
Apr 2012

See, no problem here. So why make it one?

let's see, how long before i'm accused of being ugly, jealous, fat, feminazi, and against sex ... waiting for the usual slurs from the usual suspects


I don't know that you're jealous. The only thing I know is that you have major problems with pretty women and men complimenting pretty women. This is not the first time you throw a "fucking" tantrum over something benign relating to beauty. The minute a man expresses appreciation for female beauty, you throw a fit. I don't pretend to know why, I can only guess...

Scout

(8,624 posts)
133. more of that amateur psycho analysis....
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 04:12 PM
Apr 2012

"you have major problems with pretty women and men complimenting pretty women" but you don't think i'm jealous, oh what a relief.

LOL, what major problems would that be?

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
130. "Maybe women don`t give a shit... "
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:48 PM
Apr 2012

obviously.... as evidenced by the miniscule size of the fashion and beauty-aids industries...

Response to redqueen (Reply #42)

Scout

(8,624 posts)
123. c'mon redqueen, you KNOW all women are supposed to care deeply and passionately
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:50 PM
Apr 2012

whether or not men, especially the ones they don't even know, think they are "hawt" and "fuckable." and if you don't care, well you must be one of those sex-negative feminazis!

and everyone, men and women, is supposed to care deeply and wonder continuously, "who does trumad think is hot?"

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
129. For someone who doesn't care, you sure make a lot of fuss.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:46 PM
Apr 2012

By the way, it's really an achievement to break down an argument when you first built up the argument yourself. Trumad never said any woman should care. YOU say that he said women should care. YOU built a strawman and then use misplaced sarcasm to tear it down. But whatever floats your boat; if that's what you need to feel all superior... go ahead!

Scout

(8,624 posts)
134. i wasn't talking about or to trumad
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 04:15 PM
Apr 2012

so you're quite wrong.

and i don't "need to feel all superior" ... i already know i am no worse and no better than your average human.

but you keep on trying your amateur analysis on me! whatever floats your boat, go ahead!

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
137. Then why all the attempts to position yourself as more pure, more pious, more mature than others?
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:32 PM
Apr 2012

If it's not to feel superior, then why?!!!

Response to trumad (Original post)

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
51. I liked the photo when she met Taylor Swift
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:33 PM
Apr 2012

Taylor Swift looked genuinely honored to meet the first lady. I'm sure the right-wing will mock her for that.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
59. Makes a person wonder, doesn't it?
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 01:38 PM
Apr 2012

Calling someone "hot" has a sexual connotation that can't be mistaken. It does, indeed, prompt the question you asked. That's why it's in bad taste, at a minimum, and worse, if you really think about what is being said. It's just short of calling the First Lady a MILF, in my opinion. Now, that would get hidden. I'm not sure I see that much difference between the two terms, really. Both make me think that the poster is thinking about things I'd rather not imagine.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
60. Agreed.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 01:49 PM
Apr 2012

"Hot" is about fuckability.

There are many, many ways a man can compliment a woman in a much classier way.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
65. I agree. The First Lady is a very good-looking woman,
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 01:58 PM
Apr 2012

and that's an asset. She is, though, married to the President of The United States. "Hot" isn't a word that I'd apply to her ever. But, then, I don't use that word to describe any women, actually. When I see a woman, the first thing I think about is not that I'd like to have intercourse with her, whatever her appearance. Calling a woman "hot" implies that thought, really, so it's really inappropriate, except, perhaps, when the woman in question is clearly presenting herself as an object of sexual desire.

Beautiful, elegant, charming, attractive, striking...those are good adjectives that don't bring sex into the discussion. Michelle Obama is all of those things, and her husband no doubt appreciates that very much. I think she's an asset to the country in many ways. I do not fantasize about her, though, and so "hot" simply isn't an adjective I'd use for her.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
70. Telling a woman she's hot implies you want to fuck her---
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 02:17 PM
Apr 2012

or as you would say ----LOL---have intercourse with her?

Intercourse? Intercourse?

My wife just the other day called a guy who walked by her in the mall "Hot"?

Should I imply that she wants to have intercourse with him--- or as I would say---Fuck him.

The guy was hot... Hell I even I thought so. Does that imply that I want to have intercourse with him.

Do you hear how outdated you sound?

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
71. Do I sound outdated? So be it.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 02:22 PM
Apr 2012

Do you not recognize that use of the word "intercourse?" How about "coitus?" I could have used that instead, I suppose.

You voiced your opinion about the First Lady. I voiced my opinion about your post. This is DU. We both get to post.

I am not interested in any way in who you would or would not like to fuck. Not in any way. I hope I've made that clear.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
73. I do not know your wife, so I couldn't say.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 02:26 PM
Apr 2012

Perhaps she did mean that. Or perhaps not. You'd be better able to make that judgment than I would.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
74. But you say that implies the thought of intercourse--does it or does it not?
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 02:30 PM
Apr 2012

"When I see a woman, the first thing I think about is not that I'd like to have intercourse with her, whatever her appearance. Calling a woman "hot" implies that thought, really, so it's really inappropriate, except, perhaps, when the woman in question is clearly presenting herself as an object of sexual desire".

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
77. So calling a man hot is the same thing?
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 03:22 PM
Apr 2012

So what you're telling me is if a woman says a man is hot she wants to have intercourse with him?

Correct?

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
78. Yup. Correct, at least at some level.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 03:39 PM
Apr 2012

It's an assessment of the sexual attractiveness of that person, man or woman. There is a sexual component in that description.

If you say that someone is handsome or beautiful, it can mean anything. It might mean you'd like to have a conversation with that person. If you say someone is "hot," it has a very different meaning. Think about it.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
79. at least at some level?
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 04:20 PM
Apr 2012

You backing off?

OK--so if your wife said someone was hot, you'd be worried?

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
80. Worried? No. If she posted it online, though, I'd be a little more
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 04:25 PM
Apr 2012

bothered. Both of us have identified people we found attractive. Neither of us has ever acted on such a thing. We're quite happy with each other. That does not mean that we are not attracted to others. That's biology. We just don't do anything about it.

But, if she says someone is "hot," it means she things he's sexually attractive. If she says someone is "good-looking," that means something else. That seems pretty standard stuff, really.

There's a difference between attraction and action. Action doesn't have the first four letters. Have a nice day, and it's OK if you think President Obama is hot. No need to explain.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
104. NO shit!!!!
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 07:04 PM
Apr 2012

I've seen people type petty shit just to piss off their most hated thread starter...but that (smoking hot = doggie style) is about the most pathetic attempt I've come across on DU3 in the 3 months it's been around.

You must be doing something right to piss off all the RIGHT people!

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
68. "Both make me think that the poster is thinking about things I'd rather not imagine".
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 02:12 PM
Apr 2012

Oh my---we wouldn't want that now would we.





 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
99. You know, your post reveals a whole lot more about you than it does about the OP...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:48 PM
Apr 2012

OP: makes a post to compliment Michelle Obama on her looks

Hell Hath No Fury: distasteful and explicit descriptions of sexual act with Michelle Obama

Yep, tells a lot more about you and your own thoughts and preoccupations than it does about the OP.

Ironically, Mineral Man, who was so concerned about the word "hot", didn't find your post a tad disturbing at all! But then again, pointing that out would only get in the way of you both wringing your hands and delight and revel in your 'maturity' and complimenting each other about your holier-than-thou attitude.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
102. Why is that what image you have in your head now?
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 07:00 PM
Apr 2012

Is that what popped into your head after reading 'smoking hot'? IF so then that is really sad.

Response to trumad (Original post)

Response to Texasgal (Reply #88)

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
115. I wouldn't call that a tantrum.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 09:07 PM
Apr 2012

But whatever.

Seems the offended are more offended than the offended.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
118. So we're seeing actual tantrums which are blamed on imaginary tantrums...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:28 PM
Apr 2012

and in another forum, we see whining about not being allowed to say something despite juries allowing it to be said.

Odd. Very odd.

Response to redqueen (Reply #118)

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
120. Opposite world to the 4 or 5 of you in this thread who have reached for the smelling salts.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 08:01 AM
Apr 2012

What I have learned from members in your group--- or a member is---

If you say a woman or a man is hot---that means you want to have "intercourse" with them?

Would you agree with that?

 

DutchLiberal

(5,744 posts)
100. Yep, reading some of the replies, I thought this had become 'Santorum Underground'!
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:56 PM
Apr 2012

You know, with all the "thinking about sex is in bad taste", "I don't think about women in a sexual way" and all that shit I thought this thread was overrun by people who share Rick Santorum's views on sexuality: something gross and distasteful... that you only save for the person you marry.

callous taoboy

(4,585 posts)
107. Ding Ding Ding... Oh fuck that. Warren, man, once again I couldn't have said it better myself.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 07:36 PM
Apr 2012

Thanks for your tireless efforts.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
109. totally agree--she's smoking hot
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 08:00 PM
Apr 2012

I won't use some of the vile language that others used in this thread in an attempt to discredit it. It was very telling, by the way, to see the gutter-mouth language employed by those who have decided their job is to sit in judgment of the rest of us.

But yes, she's extremely attractive...sexy. What kind of fucked up place would this be if you couldn't state that simple and obvious fact?

 

do the hustle

(10 posts)
122. This is how I picture you right now:
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:43 PM
Apr 2012

Breakfast tray with Wonder Bread sammich filled with Spam. You're in a tank top and boxers and your tank has grease stains all over it.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
124. It is not good form for newbies -
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:50 PM
Apr 2012

in particular those who give off a trollish stench - to attack long-time DUers.

Enjoy your stay.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
132. This is how I picture you right now:
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 03:08 PM
Apr 2012

You trolled poorly and are now swimming through a sea of failsauce.

callous taoboy

(4,585 posts)
136. Smokin hot. Dazzlingly smokin hot.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 05:46 PM
Apr 2012

Smokin hot, in my book, means not only physically attractive, but also having the air of high intelligence and uncompromisingly good taste.

And as a confirmed heterosexual male, may I just add that the President is, also, smokin hot.

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