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newthinking

(3,982 posts)
Fri May 30, 2014, 02:45 AM May 2014

Kerry's Latest Snowden Comments Are Moronic, Offensive, and Dangerous by Natasha Lennard

Published on Thursday, May 29, 2014 by Vice.com
Kerry's Latest Snowden Comments Are Moronic, Offensive, and Dangerous
by Natasha Lennard


US Secretary of State John Kerry is sadly mistaken in his attempt to equate "justice" with "the American state."
Defending that comparison is a losing battle


Secretary of State John Kerry repeated his line on NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden Tuesday with the most moronic aplomb to date.

Snowden had commented in an NBC interview that he had not intended to take refuge in Russia, but was stuck there en route to Latin America when the US government suspended his passport.

Kerry responded that the whistleblower should "man up," adding: "The fact is if he cares so much about America and he believes in America, he should trust in the American system of justice."

That our most senior diplomat still finds it acceptable to utter "man up" as a call to bravery is a misogyny-soaked problem enough to deserve its own column.

It carries a particularly grim resonance in the wake of Chelsea Manning's military trial and conviction. That whistleblower had to "man up" in the most literal of ways: She stood trial as Bradley Manning, her legal team determining it would do the case no favors to reveal her preferred name and gender identity during the court martial.


Continued at Common Dreams: https://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/05/29-6
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Kerry's Latest Snowden Comments Are Moronic, Offensive, and Dangerous by Natasha Lennard (Original Post) newthinking May 2014 OP
he's been eating too many heinz pickles nt msongs May 2014 #1
, blkmusclmachine May 2014 #2
Just doin' his job... dougolat May 2014 #3
Kerry sounds like a Republican at times with his rhetoric bigdarryl May 2014 #4
It's really sad to see this sort of BS struggle4progress May 2014 #5
Brilliant! JDPriestly May 2014 #6
Kerry nationalize the fed May 2014 #7
Plus one a whole bunch. Enthusiast May 2014 #9
No they are not they are spot on stonecutter357 May 2014 #8
Snowden should trust the American system of justice? Enthusiast May 2014 #10
The New York Times gets it, even if Kerry does not ... Scuba May 2014 #11

dougolat

(716 posts)
3. Just doin' his job...
Fri May 30, 2014, 05:01 AM
May 2014

Working for the Powers That Be.

Kinda wish he worked for the higher aspirations of America.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
5. It's really sad to see this sort of BS
Fri May 30, 2014, 05:05 AM
May 2014

Lennard notwithstanding, Kerry never said anything resembling one cannot be patriotic while challenging the misdeeds of state institutions

And that merely scratches the surface of her misrepresentations:

Lennard claims, for example, that Manning's legal team determining it would do the case no favors to reveal her preferred name and gender identity during the court martial ...And .. military psychologists testifying at the trial pathologized Manning's gender identity as a "disorder" -- whereas, in fact, gender dysphoria was discussed in the trial only because Manning's defense rested in part on the claim and called witnesses to provide such diagnosis

Similarly, Lennard refers to the jailing of former CIA analyst John Kiriakou for talking about torture -- whereas, in fact, Kiriakou first came into public view as a supporter of Bush-era waterboarding and was not actually prosecuted for talking about torture

This is journalism?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
6. Brilliant!
Fri May 30, 2014, 05:11 AM
May 2014

It's a question of allegiance. The sort of care Snowden has exhibited towards the US is a care for its citizens: their rights, freedoms and access to knowledge about how their lives are watched and policed. His, one might say, is an allegiance to that old myth, "America the free." Kerry, meanwhile, shows his colors in aligning uncritically with "America the state."

Unlike Snowden, I'm no patriot. But the secretary of state's assumption that one cannot be patriotic while challenging the misdeeds of state institutions misreads care for a country's purported ideals with its institutional representatives. It's a dangerous logic that opens the door to any number of abuses and oppressions.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/05/29-6

I repeat: Nixon resigned for doing far less than the NSA is doing. Far less.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
10. Snowden should trust the American system of justice?
Fri May 30, 2014, 06:32 AM
May 2014

The American system of justice is without question completely broken. That has been obvious at least since the Bush v Gore decision. Since then it has only gotten worse. TPTB do not look favorably on whistle blowers who have exposed their rigged game.

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