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I had known about this for a while now. Employers asking prospective employees for their Facebook passwords.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/would-you-give-potential-employers-your-facebook-password/2012/03/29/gIQAlJiqiS_story.html[/url]
[QUOTE]As part of the hiring process, some job applicants are being asked by some prospective employers to submit their usernames and passwords so that the employers can access their Facebook accounts to see what the applicants have posted online, reports the Associated Press.[/QUOTE]
WTF??
OK, so when I first heard this being talked about in the news I didn't pay close attention. I thought it was just some rogue employer crossing the line, so I said to myself, "What an idiot." and I drove on. This morning on MSNBC business I watched an interview on 'Your Business.'
http://www.openforum.com/yourbusinesstv#Featured_Content
BOTH interviewees, both of whom are business owners, said it's OK to ask someone for that. So it's illegal to ask someone if they're gay or straight. It's illegal to ask someone what religion they are, if they're married, if they have any children. But you Mr. employer think it's A-OK to ask me for my fucking Facebook password??
And listen to their reasons. (paraphrasing)
"I have a right to ask, and you have a right to say no."
Right, Dick. But premise of ALL questions asked in job interviews is that your answers affect whether or not you get the job.
"For a 20K job you might not answer. But for a higher paying job you might want to. It's all about how important the job is to you."
The problem is that for the 99% of us who aren't rich, arrogant assholes having a job isn't a want. It's a need. You're making some poor schmuck choose between being having his privacy violated by you in a very humiliating way - and not being able to feed his fucking family.
The fact that both of these guys think it's OK to ask someone for their Facebook password is astounding. While we're at it, "Bring me your home computer and give me the password. I want to see what you're up to." Or, "Here, put this phone on speaker. Call your home and play your messages for me."
How drunk with power. How arrogant. How out of touch with reality do you have to be to think this is OK? YES, we absolutely need the government to tell these guys there is a limit to the douchebaggery that will be allowed.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Corporate favoring fuckers.
There is NO way on Earth I'd EVER submit to this. EVER. Lines have to be drawn somewhere.
ETA: Corporations are knowingly violating their own (and federal) compliance policies when they demand this crap from you.
Pholus
(4,062 posts)Even on DU, no less, I am regularly having to counter cheap labor conservative arguments when it collides with free trade.
The argument, which is easily extended to your facebook issue, is that you CHOOSE to enter into this job and if you feel that the price is too high then you have the CHOICE to not take the job.
Of course, it's typically a Hobson's choice, but that's part of the joke apparently.
NNN0LHI
(67,190 posts)Shoot, you missed all the threads of people patting themselves on the back for purchasing imported or non-union stuff over what their own neighbors were making. Now a lot of the same ones can't figure out why they or their children are getting screwed on their jobs. If they have a job that is. Like it is a mystery to them. And the amazing thing is some have actually concluded its all President Obama's fault.
This past ten years or so has been a real eyeopener to say the least.
Don
CrispyQ
(36,464 posts)"Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price"
An excellent documentary on this hideous corporate parasite. It covers all aspects of their heinousness - low pay, no benefits, union busting, Chinese slave labor, it covers it all.
They interviewed a young woman who was about to lose her job because the local business she worked for was going out of business because a Walmart opened in their town. She admitted that she shopped there & that most the the townspeople did & that she was, to a degree, responsible for her own job loss. And then she gave this sort of pathetic little laugh.
A friend once told me, "If I can't get to the mall to do a little shopping on the weekend, then it's a crappy weekend!" Until people get over their desire for stuff & stop all nonsense shopping, the beast will thrive & the corporations will intrude even more into our lives. We are no longer citizens, we are consumers with an addiction to feed.
Pholus
(4,062 posts)My dad was always blue collar all the way and it was great way to grow up. Now? Very obviously not as much. I always wondered why he was soooo encouraging for me to go to school as long as I could when so many of my friends went straight to work. Now I know....he had a much better handle on what was going to happen than most.
But to hear conservative arguments being fronted here, especially those which obviously involve the exploitation of labor. It is simply stunning!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)generally, and I'll get stuff from your FB page, or personal information through other sites that comes from FB. You know that, right?
That's one reason why I don't do FB. FB gets all sorts of info from you, and it doesn't keep it private. Google is now getting dangerous, as well.
But it does seem illegal for employers to get your FB password, or it should be. Of course, they can ask, and you don't have to give it. You can always not work there, unless more and more employers start doing that, which I doubt.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)"Sure, you can have it, if I can have yours."
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)plus you can open a second FB and post about how you work work work alla time and LOVE it. Voila.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)Trust me, there's NOTHING that the capitalists won't do if they get rid of unions.
As to those apologists for the capitalists who claim that unions are "unnecessary" because of the labor laws that are in place, that's bullshit. If they succeed in getting rid of unions just WATCH how fast EVERY FUCKING LABOR LAW BENEFITTING THE WORKING CLASS IS REPEALED! Every one will be repealed within a couple of years. If not sooner.
And yes, I'm talking about child labor laws, 40 hour week laws, overtime laws, safety and health laws and every one of them. I can't say this enough. EVERY FUCKING WORKER PROTECTION LAW ON THE BOOKS NOW WILL BE REPEALED.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)Yep and because they're working to repeal these BASIC worker protections and LEGAL benefits at the state level, that's why I don't think that my statement about repealing all laws benefitting the working class is hyperbole. It WILL happen if they finish getting rid of the worker organizations. After all they already own the politicians that make the laws.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)that routinely and legally do extensive back ground checks on employees? I could be wrong and I cannot access your links for some reason. That doesn't make it right but it is something to consider.
slampoet
(5,032 posts)I was Ashamed that this person was so casual about committing a federal level felony.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)My grandfather fought at Ludlow to ensure we did. However, we grew cheap (too cheap to pay union dues), we grew lazy (lazy and let our union reps get corrupt, lazy to not attend union meetings), and we grew complacent (I got mine so f-you too).
Join a union. Become a rep. The next time your friend complains about not having vacation, holidays, or heath care, ask them "first of all, I need to know, have you formed and joined a union?".
You think that the answer is for the government to step in on your behalf? Here is a hint, 50% of the government are Republicans who think an employer SHOULD have your password.
If you want rights, you have to take them for yourself.
Collective rights are the only thing big government and big business understand. Support unions!
varelse
(4,062 posts)K&R
obxhead
(8,434 posts)they are not allowed to ask for.
Age, religion, sexual preference, political opinion, family affiliation, and so much more personal info. FB and other social networks should be hiring lobbyists and fighting for laws to stop this. I know it has me seriously question maintaining my FB account.