Using States Rights The GOP Wants To Abolish The Constitution.

[TheMastersNemesis]

The GOP is using racism and bigotry to fragment the country. They want to actually abolish the Constitution and reinstate the original Articles of Confederation. Under the Articles there were technically 13 different countries and Congress was just a suggestive government entity. It could debate and pass empty resolutions that the states could ignore if they wanted to.

SCOTUS by its political decisions are making such an abomination a reality. Citizens United gave corporations the right to run the country. It gave the uber rich the right to buy and influence elections and put in even local government entities that would do their bidding. If Congress can pass laws that can be struck down willy nilly we are well on our way to conditions that we had under the Articles of Confederation.

The biggest difference is that we will have 50 separate countries within the US. Pass enough conceal and carry and you can have 50 separate militia armies and we can be just like Somalia.

The rhetoric and actions of the GOP proves that they have allegiance to other things rather than a politically contiguous country. The gated community has become a symbol of everything that is wrong with the US today. It is a smaller part of a fragmented country on a micro scale.

To be brutally honest the GOP's loyalty is to an economic, cultural, religious and racial apartheid in this country. And they are taking all means to balkanize everything. Their success means they have killed a 200 year old experiment. How selfish and cruel they are. May they all go to hell. Their way is unacceptable.

[Ikonoklast]

1. The idea of strong State's Rights is antiquated, and should be curtailed.

There is either a strong national government that ensures equality over all of its citizens, no matter what state they live in, or we will forever be an unequal country due to those that would use state's rights issues as a way to infringe on the rights of their citizens.


See the current anti-voter and anti-women laws being passed at the state level.

ALEC is the tool by which the Kochs will destroy the power of our national government, then they can rule over a piece-meal, broken country.

[CAPHAVOC]

7. That requires a new convention.

That is the only way to eliminate the Constitution and write a new one.

[Ikonoklast]

10. Really. No kidding.

That is exactly what needs to be done, or we are headed to Balkanization as a nation.

The Koch brothers have used state's rights as the platform to launch their assault on liberty and the freedom of the individual, and promote corporate ownership of those rights.

We either stop them, or cease to function as a democratic republic.

[CAPHAVOC]

15. Well then 34 States have to call for it.

But it is a worry the way things are going. The 2 Parties are locked in. We have a real mess. I do not think the States Rights argument is going to go very far. Sounds good, but the States have sold their sovereignty to the Feds long ago. I too used to think all this rule by Federal Agency was unconstitutional. Until I started studying and found out it is not. That is what they do. Enforce statutes and write regulations. It is an unsound argument. But the Democrats do not explain it the right way.

[hack89]

2. There are many progressive that support state rights for their issues.

Gun control being the best example.

[TheMastersNemesis]

3. States Right On Gun Control Is A Phoney Argument I Do Not Buy That Crap In The Least.

[wandy]

4. You're spot on. These people want the us to become a group of countries flying in loose formation..

Yet they are the same folk that will tell you why the European Union can't work.

[gordianot]

5. This issue was "hotly debated" in the 1860's. Kinda thought it was settled.

Republicans were on a different side of the issue at the time.

[CAPHAVOC]

8. Lincoln was Republican.

He was for stopping the Southern States from leaving.

[Ikonoklast]

12. Democrats represented the monied and corporate interests at that time.

I would have been a Republican during that time, Bush would have been a Democrat.

[CAPHAVOC]

16. Amazing ain't it.

And now we have Mega-Rich Pundits. The same ones all the time on the media babbling about anything trivial they can to distract the viewers. Whew!

[chnoutte]

6. IMHO the Grand Experiment has failed

the Government created by the FF's was fine back in the day but now we have over 350 million people and the current form of government is not working. America is already ‘Balkanized’ to some extent.
IMHO we as a people would be better off dissolving the United States and either have 50 separate nations or some number of regions that form a new country.

[NoGOPZone]

13. For the last time, Todd, no Alaska can't secede nt

[KansDem]

9. We're not as mobile as we once were...

Many Americans might like to move to a part of the country that reflects there political/social views but can't due to finances and employment opportunities, so we're pretty much "settled."

After all, wasn't the western expansion of the 19th century due to folks seeking opportunities and escaping beliefs that conflicted with their own?

Now we have record unemployment, outsourcing of jobs and industry, and every square inch of America is owned by someone or something.

The possibility is still there, but unless your rich and connected, it's extremely difficult...

[Turbineguy]

11. OK, I can see the 5th and 14th Amendments.

But dumping the whole Constitution? Wouldn't that curtail shooting unarmed young people of color?

[KharmaTrain]

14. The Ends Justifies The Means...

When rushpublicans can't get what they want done on a national level then it becomes a states rights matter. Since they don't have the ability to outlaw abortion with a constitution ammendment they've gone to the states to do the dirty work...the point of least resistance. If they knew they had the votes to ban abortion nationally they'd do it but the state route is the most effective. The same goes for social programs, education and any other of their boogiemen. It only remains a state issue until they can codify it nationally (through ALEC)...when enough states are on board then it becomes national...

[xoom]

17. What you on? I want some.