We have got to do something to stop the Brain-curdling anti-abortion propaganda that is thinly

[Ecumenist]

veiled hatred for Women They are starting younger and younger...READ THIS DU'ers:
The fact that this woman got pregnant by a 15 year old CHILD, (yeah, yeah, I know he was capable of impregnation but DAMN), is another story but this nut got his friends to help him MURDER this woman for aborting the pregnancy. Most people are not emotionally mature enough to handle SEXUAL relationships with ANYONE, let alone grown folks and to think that ARKANSAS lifted the legal ban against teachers and students getting sexually involved. SMDH


15 YEAR-OLD KILLS GIRLFRIEND FOR HAVING AN ABORTION

You may not like abortion, but would you murder someone over it? Nattalie Muir, a 21-year-old teacher, was brutally beaten then stabbed to death by her 15-year-old former lover, who also happened to be her student.
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They found her walking on the side of the road with her boyfriend, Thomas Thyne. They chased Thyne off and proceeded to murder Nattalie. Her last word was "Paige," her 3-year-old daughter.
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http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/125010/15yearold_boy_kills_girlfriend_for

[Tunkamerica]

1. just devil's advocate. a 15 year old girl kills her 21 yr old rapist? who raped her when she was 12?

[REP]

2. Age of consent in Scotland is 14; the boy was of legal age at the time

The child is not the boy's; she had an abortion when she became pregnant by him and that's why he killed her.

[Ecumenist]

4. I'm aware that she aborted the child she conceived with this boy. I'm sorry that it's in Scotland

BUT this is wrong on SO many levels. Do you honestly believe that, though technically legal in Scotland, That it's right for a 14 year old boy (who happened to the former student of the 21 year old victim), to have a sexual relationship with her? REALLY? Can you imagine the issues involved in this type of "relationship" and if so, would allow YOUR son or daughter of the same age to get involved with an adult, not to mention their teacher?

[REP]

11. She aborted a pregnancy.

I gave no opinion on the relationship; only the fact that it broke no laws in the country in which it took place.

Making appeals based on what I'd want for my children is weak sauce; I'm able to empathise without pretending fictional people might be at risk.

[Ecumenist]

12. Fictional? Okay. Just keep believing that there's absolutely no chance that your child would

never be at risk to some creep.

[REP]

13. It's very easy to believe - I can't have children

Wanna try that again?

[Tunkamerica]

8. My point was that reversing the sexes seems to change the thrust of facts of the story.

[REP]

10. Just pointing out the facts of the story; age of consent is different in Scotland

She abused her position, but it wasn't statutory rape and I've seen no claims of force. Don't think that's why he claimed to have killed her; it was for aborting the pregnancy.

[Ecumenist]

3. I'm not arguing with the fact that she had business getting sexually invovled with a 14 YEAR OLD

CHILD!!! That's another can of worms BUT I can't help but think that all this anti-abortion talk that actually gotten to the point of targeting providers and extremists actually saying that women should die if it means that the baby gets a chance to be born influenced this child to murder her. It's because of the fact that CHILDREN cannot process the complex emotions that come in to play when sexual activity begins and certainly not when the ADULT partner has, by virtue of age, experience, etc MUCH more power.

This is why I can NEVER understand why some people seem to think that it's a trophy for a teen boy to be "seduced" by a grown woman. It's NOT funny or Right.

[Tunkamerica]

7. I'm a guy. I remember hearing stories about that sort of thing when I was that age... and I don't

get it either. Popular culture seems to think it's funny/cool though.

[Ecumenist]

9. Thank you TunkAmerica

[sinkingfeeling]

5. Oh, please. The Arkansas Supreme Court struck down a law banning

relationships between teachers and students 18 years or older!

"The Arkansas Supreme Court has struck down a law banning sexual contact between teachers and students, saying people over 18 have a constitutional right to engage in a consensual sexual relationship."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/03/arkansas-court-strikes-down-ban-on-teacher-student-sex/1

[Ecumenist]

6. Funny, Most, if not ALL universities frown on sexual relationships between students and their

instructors but Arkansas seems to think it's okay for 18 year olds and their TEACHERS. Don't care what you say, THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA....PERIOD.