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malaise

(269,260 posts)
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:15 AM May 2014

Chris Martinez father on Lawrence O'Donnell's program

Said his comments were no rant. You wouldn't be able to put what I said to a politician who called me on air.
I want action not words. Said he never expected to be here - he didn't do anything about Sandy Hook bu the should have. Three issues - gun violence, mental issues and violence against women. He tore the politicians a new one...they are childish!

Just a synopsis - he said lovely things about his son.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word
Here's the video

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Chris Martinez father on Lawrence O'Donnell's program (Original Post) malaise May 2014 OP
I can see him now in Washington talking to Congress. SummerSnow May 2014 #1
He said he knows they will come after him but he has one thing to say to them malaise May 2014 #2
Tremendous person flamingdem May 2014 #3
I agree malaise May 2014 #4
I wouldn't entertain their feigned sympathy either. UTTERLY MEANINGLESS if they won't do something calimary May 2014 #9
Thanks for saying that vlakitti May 2014 #11
Welcome to DU, vlakitti! calimary May 2014 #18
Well said calimary malaise May 2014 #13
It's pretty sad we have to say that... Hassin Bin Sober May 2014 #5
yeah, it's fucking heartless is what it is. bettyellen May 2014 #6
Yup. moondust May 2014 #7
Perfectly stated. BrotherIvan May 2014 #8
This guy ain’t gonna back down.. busterbrown May 2014 #10
Don't forget the Supreme Court judges malaise May 2014 #14
it just breaks my heart that he's been put in this position renate May 2014 #12
I'm tired of watching grieving parents and relatives malaise May 2014 #15
Do bad things happen for good reasons? 90-percent May 2014 #16
His grief is real and justified. His anger about preventing such events is righteous. aikoaiko May 2014 #17

malaise

(269,260 posts)
2. He said he knows they will come after him but he has one thing to say to them
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:23 AM
May 2014

My son is dead and nothing can be worse than that.

It's so sad. Not one more.

calimary

(81,566 posts)
9. I wouldn't entertain their feigned sympathy either. UTTERLY MEANINGLESS if they won't do something
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:55 AM
May 2014

about it, once and for all. If they won't stand up and show spine. If they won't do what's good and proper and desperately needed because it might not be politically expedient. Words mean nothing. It's ACTIONS we need to see. I'm totally with this grieving dad. He was beyond eloquent. And he's quite correct: "my son is dead. There's NOTHING that can be worse than that." And it's sad because to the question - "what can they do to him?" - well, I suspect they'll attack him soon enough. GOD FORBID he lead the taking or even regulating of their damn guns. 'Cause we all know that their damn fucking accursed fucking guns are far more important than this guy's dead child - or mine - or yours.

calimary

(81,566 posts)
18. Welcome to DU, vlakitti!
Wed May 28, 2014, 03:31 PM
May 2014

Glad you're here! Thanks back atcha. Weird that the idiot phony-Joe the phony-plumber would come out with that smart-ass remark of his and prove my point. One never quite expects them to be so, pardon the pun, BALDLY stupid and anti-compassionate. So your "right" to be able to shoot and kill or maim or otherwise damage anybody you feel like aiming at for whatever cockamamie reason you come up with in your alleged paranoiac's lizard "brain" - OUTWEIGHS MY CHILD'S RIGHT TO STAY ALIVE????

Excuse me??????

Um, I think NOT, joe - or whatever you're calling yourself this week.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,352 posts)
5. It's pretty sad we have to say that...
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:33 AM
May 2014

"He knows they will come after him"

5 bucks says they go after him if he ever defended a gun case in court. Because the Second Amendment is the only one that counts.

moondust

(20,022 posts)
7. Yup.
Wed May 28, 2014, 01:37 AM
May 2014

He'll be a strong, articulate advocate who knows better than most how utterly fucking absurd the gun culture has become thanks to Constitutional ambiguity, a feckless Congress, and a despicable gun lobby profiting off the death of innocents.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
10. This guy ain’t gonna back down..
Wed May 28, 2014, 02:52 AM
May 2014

My take is that he is gonna spend his life endlessly trying to make a difference...He said it all when he implied that there is absolutely nothing the NRA can do to hurt him...They might have met their match with Mr. Martinez!!!

renate

(13,776 posts)
12. it just breaks my heart that he's been put in this position
Wed May 28, 2014, 03:27 AM
May 2014

He'll be a strong and pure voice against guns, but it will all come from a shattered heart. It is so damn wrong that he's in this position. I hope that if he continues this fight it'll bring him some comfort since it'll be in honor of his son, but it is just SO unfair that the choice to speak out or not should have been foisted upon him. I know that most people who own guns are perfectly lovely people... but I don't understand how those perfectly lovely people don't comprehend how giving up their hobby might be worth it in the name of saving lives.

For example, this life: http://imgur.com/gallery/BpV2hhw

malaise

(269,260 posts)
15. I'm tired of watching grieving parents and relatives
Wed May 28, 2014, 06:54 AM
May 2014

I'm tired of memorial services, flowers, candles, etc.

Time to stop this madness - but of course now isn't the time to talk about their precious guns.

90-percent

(6,833 posts)
16. Do bad things happen for good reasons?
Wed May 28, 2014, 08:42 AM
May 2014

My first reaction is quite selfish; We now have an articulate man thrust in the middle of a desperate national dialog. We have a man free of the chains of lobbyists and the years of compromise in politics that leads to the current state of corrupt beyond repair. We now have a representative of the bottom 99% that can openly state the inconvenient truths of our current Oligarchy.

So we got lucky. There was no such person that rose up from the fraudulent mortgage crisis and other repercussions of the financial collapse of 2008. Same for 9-11, the Iraq war, BP oil spill and so on. OR maybe we did but I've forgotten their 15 minutes of fame?

But this poor man and poor family and all the other families forever broken from this didn't want this thrust on him. And didn't deserve it. His sons sounded like a beautiful person. It's so nice to hear about young men being praised simply for being nice. We are all so every man for himself in our society and it's a sucky way to be in all respects. We could all have enough to go around for everybody if young men like this ended up with their character still intact after becoming president of Goldman Sachs.

This man has my support, and like one of his most important points, I hope that manifests for me in taking some kind of action. DU posts don't cut it.

-90% jimmy

aikoaiko

(34,186 posts)
17. His grief is real and justified. His anger about preventing such events is righteous.
Wed May 28, 2014, 09:02 AM
May 2014

And I'm sure anti-gun foundations will facilitate his presentation to congress and other public displays just like they did with Sandy Hook, but they almost always go away disheartened.

No one except some kooks will come after him. At most he will be dismissed a grieving, ranting father who doesn't blame the actual killer and then ignore him.

Mental health advocates will fight efforts to specifically keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill beyond current law.
RKBA advocates will fight efforts to keep guns out of the hands of everyone.
And there really isn't much of a mechanism for changing attitudes toward women except for the slow steps of cultural change.



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