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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChris Martinez father on Lawrence O'Donnell's program
Said his comments were no rant. You wouldn't be able to put what I said to a politician who called me on air.
I want action not words. Said he never expected to be here - he didn't do anything about Sandy Hook bu the should have. Three issues - gun violence, mental issues and violence against women. He tore the politicians a new one...they are childish!
Just a synopsis - he said lovely things about his son.
http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word
Here's the video
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)We will be seeing him again.
malaise
(269,260 posts)My son is dead and nothing can be worse than that.
It's so sad. Not one more.
flamingdem
(39,335 posts)who might really have an impact.
malaise
(269,260 posts)I added the link to the OP.
He's not entertaining their feigned sympathy.
calimary
(81,566 posts)about it, once and for all. If they won't stand up and show spine. If they won't do what's good and proper and desperately needed because it might not be politically expedient. Words mean nothing. It's ACTIONS we need to see. I'm totally with this grieving dad. He was beyond eloquent. And he's quite correct: "my son is dead. There's NOTHING that can be worse than that." And it's sad because to the question - "what can they do to him?" - well, I suspect they'll attack him soon enough. GOD FORBID he lead the taking or even regulating of their damn guns. 'Cause we all know that their damn fucking accursed fucking guns are far more important than this guy's dead child - or mine - or yours.
vlakitti
(401 posts)Good tone, too. I agree 100%
calimary
(81,566 posts)Glad you're here! Thanks back atcha. Weird that the idiot phony-Joe the phony-plumber would come out with that smart-ass remark of his and prove my point. One never quite expects them to be so, pardon the pun, BALDLY stupid and anti-compassionate. So your "right" to be able to shoot and kill or maim or otherwise damage anybody you feel like aiming at for whatever cockamamie reason you come up with in your alleged paranoiac's lizard "brain" - OUTWEIGHS MY CHILD'S RIGHT TO STAY ALIVE????
Excuse me??????
Um, I think NOT, joe - or whatever you're calling yourself this week.
malaise
(269,260 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,352 posts)"He knows they will come after him"
5 bucks says they go after him if he ever defended a gun case in court. Because the Second Amendment is the only one that counts.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)He'll be a strong, articulate advocate who knows better than most how utterly fucking absurd the gun culture has become thanks to Constitutional ambiguity, a feckless Congress, and a despicable gun lobby profiting off the death of innocents.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)My take is that he is gonna spend his life endlessly trying to make a difference...He said it all when he implied that there is absolutely nothing the NRA can do to hurt him...They might have met their match with Mr. Martinez!!!
malaise
(269,260 posts)lots of scumbags here
renate
(13,776 posts)He'll be a strong and pure voice against guns, but it will all come from a shattered heart. It is so damn wrong that he's in this position. I hope that if he continues this fight it'll bring him some comfort since it'll be in honor of his son, but it is just SO unfair that the choice to speak out or not should have been foisted upon him. I know that most people who own guns are perfectly lovely people... but I don't understand how those perfectly lovely people don't comprehend how giving up their hobby might be worth it in the name of saving lives.
For example, this life: http://imgur.com/gallery/BpV2hhw
malaise
(269,260 posts)I'm tired of memorial services, flowers, candles, etc.
Time to stop this madness - but of course now isn't the time to talk about their precious guns.
90-percent
(6,833 posts)My first reaction is quite selfish; We now have an articulate man thrust in the middle of a desperate national dialog. We have a man free of the chains of lobbyists and the years of compromise in politics that leads to the current state of corrupt beyond repair. We now have a representative of the bottom 99% that can openly state the inconvenient truths of our current Oligarchy.
So we got lucky. There was no such person that rose up from the fraudulent mortgage crisis and other repercussions of the financial collapse of 2008. Same for 9-11, the Iraq war, BP oil spill and so on. OR maybe we did but I've forgotten their 15 minutes of fame?
But this poor man and poor family and all the other families forever broken from this didn't want this thrust on him. And didn't deserve it. His sons sounded like a beautiful person. It's so nice to hear about young men being praised simply for being nice. We are all so every man for himself in our society and it's a sucky way to be in all respects. We could all have enough to go around for everybody if young men like this ended up with their character still intact after becoming president of Goldman Sachs.
This man has my support, and like one of his most important points, I hope that manifests for me in taking some kind of action. DU posts don't cut it.
-90% jimmy
aikoaiko
(34,186 posts)And I'm sure anti-gun foundations will facilitate his presentation to congress and other public displays just like they did with Sandy Hook, but they almost always go away disheartened.
No one except some kooks will come after him. At most he will be dismissed a grieving, ranting father who doesn't blame the actual killer and then ignore him.
Mental health advocates will fight efforts to specifically keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill beyond current law.
RKBA advocates will fight efforts to keep guns out of the hands of everyone.
And there really isn't much of a mechanism for changing attitudes toward women except for the slow steps of cultural change.