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warrior1

(12,325 posts)
Mon May 26, 2014, 03:12 PM May 2014

Hours After UCSB Shooting, Man Allegedly Shot At Girls (women) For Refusing To Have Sex With Him

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/05/26/3441640/california-man-allegedly-fired-at-girls-for-refusing-to-have-sex/

A California man allegedly fired his gun at three women Saturday morning who refused to have sex with him and his friends.

The women, estimated to be between about 18 and 19 years old, had gone to the home of three men late Friday night in the northern California town of Stockton, according to Stockton Police. After the men asked to have sex and the women refused, the men kicked the girls out, Stockton Police Department Public Information Officer Joseph Silva told ThinkProgress. When the women started to leave, multiple shots were fired, but none of the women were injured, Silva said. The women fled the area to a nearby Buffalo Wild Wings, where they called police.

All three girls corroborated the story, according to Silva. The security guard in the building also heard the shots and called the police independently. Silva said eight shell casings were found at the crime scene, but the men cannot be found. He does not know whether the gun was possessed legally.

The suspected gunman is Keith Binder, 21. But police have not yet arrested or charged him, saying the case is still under investigation and Binder has not been located. Two other men were at the scene, but police only know their nicknames: “Little D” and “Little Eggy.”

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Hours After UCSB Shooting, Man Allegedly Shot At Girls (women) For Refusing To Have Sex With Him (Original Post) warrior1 May 2014 OP
Nothing to see here, definitely not misogny, move along. LeftyMom May 2014 #1
yup. just.... move the fuck along. hm. nt seabeyond May 2014 #2
Why do headlines keep calling women "girls". NutmegYankee May 2014 #3
Thanks. I hate that, too. PeaceNikki May 2014 #4
It's definitely too informal to discuss victims of attempted murder. LeftyMom May 2014 #5
infantilize - that was the word I was looking for. NutmegYankee May 2014 #8
Because anyone objecting to it is laughed at and ridiculed. redqueen May 2014 #6
Yep. The only time adult men aren't called men is when one commits a "youthful indiscretion." Gormy Cuss May 2014 #7

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
1. Nothing to see here, definitely not misogny, move along.
Mon May 26, 2014, 06:17 PM
May 2014

Does somebody want to come tell me how this guy was crazy and his obvious motivation isn't worth discussing?

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
3. Why do headlines keep calling women "girls".
Mon May 26, 2014, 06:23 PM
May 2014

It comes off to me (I'm a guy) as demeaning to women, but it persists in society. Somehow it seems all men are called "men".

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
5. It's definitely too informal to discuss victims of attempted murder.
Mon May 26, 2014, 06:29 PM
May 2014

Knowing the area (and having googled the suspect because this is right in my back yard) it's quite likely that the victims were women of color, which adds an extra dimension of ickiness in infantilizing them.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
8. infantilize - that was the word I was looking for.
Mon May 26, 2014, 06:32 PM
May 2014

I agree. The shooter probably also thought of the women as objects of desire and not as sentient beings and reacted on not getting his way by trying to harm them. It's sick, but far too common.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
6. Because anyone objecting to it is laughed at and ridiculed.
Mon May 26, 2014, 06:31 PM
May 2014

The patriarchy is dearly loved and protected by most. Referring to women as girls is just one of myriad tactics to ensure its continued existence is not threatened.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
7. Yep. The only time adult men aren't called men is when one commits a "youthful indiscretion."
Mon May 26, 2014, 06:31 PM
May 2014

As in, the middle or upper income 18 year old male who beats up someone after a sports event or who kills someone with his car while driving recklessly.

Now a 16 year old low income male, particularly one of color, who commits either of those "indiscretions" will be called a man.

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