Christian Party calls the Welsh National Flag demonic and wants it replaced

[Siwsan]

I call it beautiful.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/22/european-elections-welsh-flag-demonic-christian-party_n_5370977.html?utm_hp_ref=uk


A group of Christians say Wales's national flag is "demonic" and should be changed.

The Welsh Christian Party claims the red dragon on the nation's standard is at odds with the country's position as a Christian nation. It wants the flag to be replaced with the black and gold cross of St David.

Party leader the Rev George Hargreaves said a symbol of the devil should not "reign over Wales for another moment". He said: "Wales is the only country in history to have a red dragon on its national flag.

"This is the very symbol of the devil described in the Book of Revelation 12:3. This is nothing less than the sign of Satan, the devil, Lucifer, that ancient serpent who deceived Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden."

[MohRokTah]

1. It's nice to know that the US isn't the only country inundated with religiously insane nutbags.

If they must replace it, they should thumb their noses at these idiots and put Baphomet on the flag.

[Spider Jerusalem]

6. Hardly "inundated"

I think it's basically these five people and the anti-abortion nutters who set up a table in the Cardiff city centre and shout at passers-by.

Most recent survey of church attendance in Wales is from 2007, which showed 6.7% of the population reporting attending church; compare that to a survey in the US that shows over 40% reporting weekly church attendance (and the least-churchgoing state having a rate of almost 4x that of Wales).

[WilliamPitt]

2. It's a griffin.

History Fail.

[Siwsan]

5. You may see a Griffin, but trust me. It is the Red Dragon of Cadwallader

The flag incorporates the Red Dragon of Cadwallader, King of Gwynedd, along with the Tudor colours of green and white. It was used by Henry VII at the Battle of Bosworth Field in 1485 after which it was carried in state to St Paul's Cathedral. The red dragon was then included in the Tudor royal arms to signify their Welsh descent. (Wiki)

[Skidmore]

13. Spot on.

I had to send an e-mail just now to my friends in Wales to tease them about this article.

[Siwsan]

14. You almost can't turn around without tripping over a Dragon, in Wales

So, after hundreds and HUNDREDS of years, this is suddenly an issue? Oh well, I guess people everywhere have the right to be paranoid and a little crazy. Fortunately, I come from one of those lager drinking, loud singing Welsh blood lines.

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. I am of Welsh decent and I think it is beautiful.

[Drale]

31. The Red Dragon also represents King Arthur, who Henry VII was obsessed with

going as far to name his first son Arthur.

[Spider Jerusalem]

9. Definitely not a gryphon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Dragon

[jberryhill]

11. No, this is a Griffin....

[yortsed snacilbuper]

3. I like it,

and I'm part Welsh!

[Siwsan]

7. I have many Red Dragons, around the house

A slate plaque from my visit to Blaneau Ffestiniog, Welsh tea mugs, pint mugs, flags, you name it. My Welsh pride runs very, very, VERY deep.

[DireStrike]

4. Come on. Religion does SO MUCH wrong. Does it have to make the world boring too?

Yes, the only design allowed anywhere is a cross. Anything else is satanic.

[Siwsan]

8. The flag they want is the flag of St. David (patron saint of Wales)

And it's a big yellow cross on a black field. However, one version inserted the Dragon, in the right hand corner. Still wouldn't want the full Dragon replaced.

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. Hope the country doesn't give in to these nuts. Am very proud of the flag of my gg grandparents.

[Siwsan]

12. It will never happen. It's far too dear to the Welsh heart.

And, it's the oldest known national flag design. Nope - it will never happen.

[GreenPartyVoter]

17. Glad to hear it! :^)

[ChoppinBroccoli]

15. This Welshman LOVES The Red Dragon

And they better not ever change it, since I have it tattooed on my arm. LOL

[okasha]

16. And let's change the name

of Wales' greatest hero to Arthur Smith. (Or maybe Smythe.)

[Enthusiast]

18. Fuck a bunch of Welsh Christians.

[sakabatou]

19. Ah, the Christian Party doesn't know the history behind it

[Siwsan]

24. The battle between the Red and White Dragon?

I love that story. When ever I get stressed, my sympathetic nerve response is to blotch out and turn bright red - I warn people it's just the Dragon awakening. The smart ones believe me.

[Scootaloo]

30. Be wary of big dudes offering you a crown

[Eleanors38]

20. Thought that was on a bottle of hot sauce.

[theHandpuppet]

21. It's a gorgeous flag

One of the most beautiful, IMHO. The Welsh Christian Party needs to get a freakin' life.

[Aristus]

22. Cymru forever! Fuck yeah!

Don't mess with the flag!

Can anyone say 'fuck yeah' in Welsh?

[11 Bravo]

23. Ffyc yeah!

(According to Google)

[Tommy_Carcetti]

25. Daenerys Targaryen would like to have a word with you, Rev. Hargreaves...

[RKP5637]

26. It's like a viral infection. n/t

[shenmue]

28. I like the Welsh flag

Silly complainers, complainin' and stuff.

[RKP5637]

29. It's really cool! n/t

[yortsed snacilbuper]

32. Keeping Welsh church tradition alive in Ebensburg

Instead of meeting weekly, why not meet yearly?


Read more: link

[Siwsan]

33. Thanks - this is really interesting

My family went to the Welsh Baptist Church in Frostburg, MD. It's on my list of places to go, and now I think I will add this, too.