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dick cheney:
the constitution in terms of the way he's interpreted his executive power'
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)skydive forever
(445 posts)that he isn't hanging from a rope at the Hague
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)Diclotican
(5,095 posts)skydive forever
In europe we do not execute people anymore - most country's doesn't even have life behind bars without parole - as the whole idea of prison is to REHABILITATE the convict - rather than to just keep them locked away for the rest of their natural life.... In some way I think we might as well are more civilized than in the US, where you keep a record number of prisoners behind bars - for crimes that should end them up in prison for shorter time if it was some justice in the world....
But then, I'm just a liberal yuppie from Europe - who do not know to many things - I have been told sometimes....
If Cheney and Co was to ever be arrested - and put on trial for the Iraq War blusters they would be getting a comfortable cell - ample time with their lawyers - and also ample time to make their defense - and then if convicted of any crime - put in a prison where they would be kept as long as the punishment meant them do be - and then released if their time was up - and sent back to the US, as I doubt we would have them here after they case was finished..
Diclotican
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Heavens to Murgatroyd!
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)The only things Obama's done that could be unconstitutional...are the things he continued from the Bush/Cheney regime.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)SamKnause
(13,110 posts)poster boy for not donating organs.
spanone
(135,859 posts)larry king interview:
'When I came out from under the anesthetic after the transplant, I was euphoric. Id hadId been given the gift of additional lives, additional years of life. For the family of the donor, theyd just been [through] some terrible tragedy, theyd lost a family member. Cant tell why, obviously, when you dont know the details, but the way I think of it from a psychological standpoint is that its my new heart, not someone elses old heart. And I always thank the donor, generically thank donors for the gift that Ive been given, but I dont spend time wondering who had it, what theyd done, what kind of person.'
http://www.salon.com/2013/11/14/dick_cheney_even_bigger_monster_than_you_thought/
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)ScumCheney.
SamKnause
(13,110 posts)They should have transplanted a soul in to him as well.
It is quite obvious he does not have one.
The Obama administration should have went after the Bush administration with a vengeance !!!!
Too late now.
Obama slate isn't clean any more either.
What a fucked up government the U.S. has.
It is truly sickening !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. An orange jumpsuit, shackles, and handcuffs should be the only accessories Cheney should be allowed until the day he dies !!!!!!
Was totally useless before and after the attack on 9/11 (I think this was intentional and strategically planned.)
War profiteer
War criminal
Committing crimes against humanity
Caused the deaths of U.S. servicemen and women
Caused the deaths of our allies servicemen and women
Caused the deaths of innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan
Caused the destruction of the infrastructure of Iraq and Afghanistan
Bankrupted the U.S.
P.S. When this bastard dies U.S. politicians Democratic and Republican will heap praise on him.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)for a psychopathe to not care or feel anything
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)I'm not sure I could handle knowing who the donor was. To take it even further I don't know if I could handle a heart transplant at all.
I'm having a defibrillator put in in a couple of weeks and I even have mixed feelings about that.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Just croak and do the planet a favor scumbag
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=146626
How broken and incoherent have our politics gotten, when the very same corporate/authoritarian policies persist and grow from administration to administration, but the partisan electorate on each side works itself to the point of disconnection from reality trying to claim it is just the *other* side doing it?
So now we have Republicans twisting themselves into contortions to pretend that they are scandalized by pre-emptive war, indefinite detention, and the police state....completely denying history and reality in their astounding claims that Obama is the sole and only source of the corporate fascism we see being carefully constructed around us....and utterly ignoring the fact that they were cheering on the exact same policies four years ago.
....While on this side we have corporate Democrats pushing equal amounts of self-delusion.....feeding us the ludicrous fantasy that all of these outrages are somehow not being actively continued under Obama, or that they are not as bad under Obama, or that he is helpless to stop them and has not enabled them in any way......and we are asked as Democrats to minimize them and overlook them and completely wipe out of our consciousnesses that we opposed and screamed bloody murder about them under Bush.
What the hell is happening to us? How can we allow ourselves to be manipulated in this way?
Good god, people. We are in serious, serious trouble in this country. The corporatists have purchased our government, and they are systematically creating something that none of us want. And we enable it by participating in this garbage, this fantasyland that allows it all to continue.
We will *never* have a unified opposition to this metastasizing corporate empire and police state until we can stand up, acknowledge, and condemn the wrongs that are being done by both corporate Republicans and corporate Democrats.
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)babylonsister
(171,079 posts)Start with the warmongers and make the comparison yourself if you can possibly do that.
And no, I won't argue with you, just sick of reading it.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)That's just reality. Pretending it's just the other guy does not help us reverse what is being done to this country.
spanone
(135,859 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)It's very clearly written.
spanone
(135,859 posts)i pretend nothing.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)One way of course.
& Rec !!!
Baitball Blogger
(46,755 posts)That man has no moral compass.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Go fuck yourself.
spanone
(135,859 posts)i'm with you...dick, go FUCK yourself.
panader0
(25,816 posts)ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)DesertDiamond
(1,616 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)What's the statute of limitations on war crimes? I don't think there are any.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Obama may not have been perfect, but he has been far, far more law-abiding than Dubya Bush ever was.
Leme
(1,092 posts)"'i really feel as though Barack Obama is ignoring the law in many cases....much of what's been done does, in fact, skate up to the edge of violating
the constitution in terms of the way he's interpreted his executive power' "
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phone and internet data collection being one example.
spanone
(135,859 posts)Leme
(1,092 posts)However, if he said the earth rotates on an axis.. I would tend to agree.
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In this case also, I tend to agree. Cheney may be too kind in his statement. Obama (and Bush) may have overstepped their authority and the Constitution with the NSA data collection. I would tend to agree no matter who said it.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,157 posts)There were younger and more deserving people who should have gotten the heart you stole.
Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)EEO
(1,620 posts)Who violated the constitution in terms of the way he interpreted executive power.
Warpy
(111,327 posts)is another day gone to hell.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)Initech
(100,099 posts)Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)So he would know about ignoring laws.
Leme
(1,092 posts)Obama condones and hides the actions of the NSA in data collection.
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woo me with science
(32,139 posts)They are pursuing the very same policies.
Rex
(65,616 posts)in an accidental fire. Cheney is not believable as a human.
Leme
(1,092 posts)to see Obama is near over the line in collecting information about Americans.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Maybe you didn't notice, but Cheney got away with warmongering for 8 years. We should deal with that first.
Leme
(1,092 posts)and anyone could say what Cheney said...and I would agree.
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It turned into a hate Cheney thread, possibly to deflect away from what he said about Obama.
Rex
(65,616 posts)The man really fucked up our country bad. Can't really blame people being mad at the source.
Leme
(1,092 posts)but that would not change what Obama has done/ is doing
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt.