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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,184 posts)
Mon May 12, 2014, 03:15 PM May 2014

Incredible, must-read piece written by Timothy Snyder on the Ukrainian crisis and underlying history

Many thanks to DUer MBS who originally posted this in Good Reads:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117692/fascism-returns-ukraine

Excerpt (More at link):

People who criticize only the Ukrainian right often fail to notice two very important things. The first is that the revolution in Ukraine came from the left. It was a mass movement of the kind Europeans and Americans now know only from the history books. Its enemy was an authoritarian kleptocrat, and its central program was social justice and the rule of law. It was initiated by a journalist of Afghan background, its first two mortal casualties were an Armenian and a Belarusian, and it was supported by the Muslim Crimean Tatar community as well as many Ukrainian Jews. A Jewish Red Army veteran was among those killed in the sniper massacre. Multiple Israel Defense Forces veterans fought for freedom in Ukraine.

The Maidan functioned in two languages simultaneously, Ukrainian and Russian, because Kiev is a bilingual city, Ukraine is a bilingual country, and Ukrainians are bilingual people. Indeed, the motor of the revolution was the Russian-speaking middle class of Kiev. The current government, whatever its shortcomings, is un-self-consciouslymultiethnic and multilingual. In fact, Ukraine is now the site of the largest and most important free media in the Russian language, since important media in Ukraine appears in Russian and since freedom of speech prevails. Putin’s idea of defending Russian speakers in Ukraine is absurd on many levels, but one of them is this: People can say what they like in Russian in Ukraine, but they cannot do so in Russia itself. Separatists in the Ukrainian east, who, according to a series of opinion polls, represent a minority of the population, are protesting for the right to join a country where protest is illegal. They are working to stop elections in which the legitimate interests of Ukrainians in the east can be voiced. If these regions join Russia, their inhabitants can forget about casting meaningful votes in the future.

This is the second thing that goes unnoticed: The authoritarian right in Russia is infinitely more dangerous than the authoritarian right in Ukraine. It is in power, for one thing. It has no meaningful rivals, for another. It does not have to accommodate itself to domestic elections or international expectations, for a third. And it is now pursuing a foreign policy that is based openly upon the ethnicization of the world. It does not matter who an individual is according to law or his own preferences: The fact that he speaks Russian makes him a Volksgenosse requiring Russian protection, which is to say invasion. The Russian parliament granted Putin the authority to invade the entirety of Ukraine and to transform its social and political structure, which is an extraordinarily radical goal. The Russian parliament also sent a missive to the Polish foreign ministry proposing a partition of Ukraine. On popular Russian television, Jews are blamed for the Holocaust; in the major newspaper Izvestiia, Hitler is rehabilitated as a reasonable statesman responding to unfair Western pressure; on May Day, Russian neo-Nazis march.

All of this is consistent with the fundamental ideological premise of Eurasia. Whereas European integration begins from the premise that National Socialism and Stalinism were negative examples, Eurasian integration begins from the more jaded and postmodern premise that history is a grab bag of useful ideas. Whereas European integration presumes liberal democracy, Eurasian ideology explicitly rejects it. The main Eurasian ideologist, Alexander Dugin, who once called for a fascism “as red as our blood,” receives more attention now than ever before. His three basic political ideas—the need to colonize Ukraine, the decadence of the European Union, and the desirability of an alternative Eurasian project from Lisbon to Vladivostok—are now all officially enunciated, in less wild forms than his to be sure, as Russian foreign policy. Dugin now provides radical advice to separatist leaders in eastern Ukraine.

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Incredible, must-read piece written by Timothy Snyder on the Ukrainian crisis and underlying history (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 OP
Another good excerpt to keep in mind for folks at DU: Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #1
Bookmarking for later. Thanks! riqster May 2014 #2
Thanks for cross-posting this article MBS May 2014 #3
Not to mention Alexander Dugin has been mentoring leaders from far right parties all across okaawhatever May 2014 #4
yup, that, too MBS May 2014 #5

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,184 posts)
1. Another good excerpt to keep in mind for folks at DU:
Mon May 12, 2014, 03:20 PM
May 2014

This made the revolution in Ukraine not only a disaster for Russian foreign policy, but a challenge to Putin’s regime at home. The weakness of Putin’s policy is that it cannot account for the actions of free human beings who choose to organize themselves in response to unpredictable historical events. Russian propaganda presented the Ukrainian revolution as a Nazi coup and blamed Europeans for supporting these supposed Nazis. This version, although ridiculous, was much more comfortable in Putin’s mental world, since it removed from view the debacle of his own foreign policy in Ukraine and replaced spontaneous action by Ukrainians with foreign conspiracies.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
3. Thanks for cross-posting this article
Mon May 12, 2014, 03:48 PM
May 2014

(Originally posted in Good Reads, glad to see it here, too)
Really insightful article, highly recommended.
Snyder is a history professor at Yale (apparently now on sabbatical in UK), and a leading expert on eastern Europe. This article demonstrates why he's well worth listening to. He knows his stuff, to say the least.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
4. Not to mention Alexander Dugin has been mentoring leaders from far right parties all across
Mon May 12, 2014, 03:51 PM
May 2014

Europe. Many of them were brought to the Crimea to monitor the elections. Leaders from Jobbik (Hungary), Marie Le Pen (France), Golden Dawn (Greece), and the party in Germany (I forget the name) all have been brought to Moscow and funded/mentored by Alexander Dugin. Think about that folks, he and the Kremlin are supporting fascist groups in all those countries plus a few more.

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