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dzika

(4,287 posts)
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:21 AM Mar 2012

Santorum denies calling Obama the n-word

From: The Raw Story

The Internet was buzzing on Friday morning that Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum may have almost dropped the n-bomb on President Barack Obama.

Speaking to a group of voters in Janesville, Wisconsin on Wednesday, the candidate seemed to catch himself before using a word that sounds like "n*gger" to describe the president.

“We know the candidate Barack Obama, what he was like – the anti-war government nig... America was a source for division around the world, that what we were doing was wrong," Santorum said.

"Oh, come on!" Santorum spokesman Hogan Gidley told Raw Story when asked for comment. "Give me a break. That's unbelievable. What does it say about those that are running with this story that that's where their mind goes. You know, I'm not going to dignify that with [a response]."

"That is absolutely ridiculous."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/30/santorum-denies-calling-obama-the-n-word/

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Santorum denies calling Obama the n-word (Original Post) dzika Mar 2012 OP
The usual race-baiting from desperate Republicans alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #1
I think I disagree. I think it was a slip and not planned. Only because of what he did after he Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2012 #67
I agree. He started to say the "n" word, realized where he was, and panicked. yardwork Mar 2012 #202
Words that start with "nig" Richard D Mar 2012 #2
LOL!! A.B.S.O.L.U.T.E.L.Y Right, Richard D. He can deny it all he wants but he said what he did Ecumenist Mar 2012 #6
exactly..the aftermath confirms it. Say he intended to let that word half slip as a cue Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2012 #142
Ah yes, nigella izquierdista Mar 2012 #8
no, really newspeak Mar 2012 #41
Because people so commonly use that word NewJeffCT Mar 2012 #64
My thought exactly VWolf Mar 2012 #13
Except he didn't use it alone. The term would have been... polichick Mar 2012 #18
I've read it's a common usage on the right wial Mar 2012 #96
here's a blog claiming the same thing wial Mar 2012 #97
Well, if that's actually a term people use maybe it is what he was going for... polichick Mar 2012 #104
Yes, like people use "Sand Nigger" as a derogatory term for Middle Eastern people, CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #172
Replace the 'n' word with the 'a' word Tx4obama Mar 2012 #165
Not only can you hear him say "NIGG" you also hear him try to recover with "AF" slampoet Mar 2012 #22
Impressive case made! Thanks karynnj Mar 2012 #24
Maybe he meant NIGERIAN? Maybe he has Tourettes. BLAH PEOPLE! AAARGH I CANT CONTROL MYSELF! FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #25
Omg ! hysterical. Is it absolutely clear that he actually said 'nig"? I can't hear it that Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2012 #51
It sounds very clear to me in the clip at the OP. I have no doubt about what he started to say. yardwork Mar 2012 #203
How about NEGOTIATOR? WeekendWarrior Mar 2012 #59
So why didn't he just finish his thought? EOTE Mar 2012 #77
Excellent question! n/t Spazito Mar 2012 #80
negotiator???? Yeah he wanted to point out Obama was lunasun Mar 2012 #147
Perhaps he remembered, mid-sentence, that the Negotiator was killed off & CrispyQ Mar 2012 #206
Yes, exactly WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #235
People don't speak perfectly and WeekendWarrior Mar 2012 #114
Ahhh, OK. So he just happened to have said half of the n word and THEN happens EOTE Mar 2012 #118
He could have gotten flustered because if he said he was a negotiator that cstanleytech Mar 2012 #123
That's about the most likely explanation I've heard which doesn't suggest EOTE Mar 2012 #129
It's petty and stupid because WeekendWarrior Mar 2012 #125
Because there are only so many words that begin with "nig" EOTE Mar 2012 #128
The Bottom Line is WeekendWarrior Mar 2012 #175
Wrong WW. He starts to say something he OBVIOUSLY stopped saying HangOnKids Mar 2012 #183
It doesn't LOOK petty WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #236
You think calling out a very clear instance of racism is petty. EOTE Apr 2012 #238
How is is a very clear instance? WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #243
Your alternative words are bone headed. EOTE Apr 2012 #246
How are you pronouncing Negotiator? WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #248
You're damned right I can. EOTE Apr 2012 #249
Then you're quite an amazing individual, WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #252
Only one of those pronounciations is correct. EOTE Apr 2012 #253
Yes, only one of these pronunciations is correct, but WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #255
You're going out of your way to defend Santorum. EOTE Apr 2012 #256
Um, ooookay... WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #259
You're defending a man who said "nig" days after he claims to have said "blah people". EOTE Apr 2012 #261
By all means, let's be more concerned NoGOPZone Mar 2012 #204
+1. I had to laugh out loud at the absurdity. yardwork Mar 2012 #212
Potential being the key word WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #237
So when republicans attack Social Security and Medicaid. EOTE Apr 2012 #239
With all due respect WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #244
With somewhat less respect... EOTE Apr 2012 #245
With continued respect WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #247
Yeah, saying another's position is dumb and leaving it at that is a great defense. EOTE Apr 2012 #250
You go ahead WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #254
You can deny it all you want, you're clearly defending him. EOTE Apr 2012 #257
And you're clearly wrong WeekendWarrior Apr 2012 #258
Ahhh, I see, that's how it works. EOTE Apr 2012 #260
Brain fart maybe? It happens to alot of people and it could be what happened to him. cstanleytech Mar 2012 #121
And it typically happens right after someone says something they shouldn't in public. EOTE Mar 2012 #132
Let's see "nig...nig...nig" robbob Mar 2012 #133
Your concern is duly noted KamaAina Apr 2012 #233
Yes, thank you. Which of those Union Scribe Mar 2012 #76
He's Nigella? Fawke Em Mar 2012 #93
My natural instinct is that he wouldn't use the N word -- my sense of him is that he wouldn't gateley Mar 2012 #3
There is a certain "meanness" to Rick, much like $omney...They try to hide it monmouth Mar 2012 #4
Well he has been showing signs of stress lately, and interesting observation gateley Mar 2012 #16
There's always a meanness to psychopaths. They take great pleasure from harming others. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2012 #148
He got carried away and forgot where he was. my mother used to tel me to be careful how Ecumenist Mar 2012 #5
Our mamas were right HillWilliam Mar 2012 #26
No home training, HillWilliam, No home Training. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #31
Nope, it sure sounded like it, a Freudian slip. He's clearly IMO a very RKP5637 Mar 2012 #11
I think he is becoming a little unglued. grantcart Mar 2012 #20
I always thought he was like a fifth grade project HangOnKids Mar 2012 #45
he's been a little unglued, I think, for a long time Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #65
I think he may have gotten a shot of testosterone he can't handle loyalsister Mar 2012 #154
I think you may be right I had a friend who loved to get them grantcart Mar 2012 #166
I was thinking something more natural loyalsister Mar 2012 #170
After his "black welfare" (we all know what he actually said) comments... Spazito Mar 2012 #30
I agree - his previous slips and comments are along similar lines nadine_mn Mar 2012 #176
maybe Voice for Peace Mar 2012 #62
I think he's been hanging out in private with too many tea partiers pnwmom Mar 2012 #119
To be fair, I think he said Lawlbringer Mar 2012 #7
I agree. That's what I heard. n/t Raven Mar 2012 #9
write out what you think you heard. slampoet Mar 2012 #34
yes n/t godai Mar 2012 #10
Minus One... not even close. Scuba Mar 2012 #15
Not even close. He obviously caught himself in mid word of something and then stuttered and grantcart Mar 2012 #21
There is no such word. nt CJCRANE Mar 2012 #28
Oh frikkin baloney..... slampoet Mar 2012 #32
Me too Then the eyes looking around like oops forgot so and so is around or lunasun Mar 2012 #150
Nope, sorry, He said EXACTLY what everyone except you and a few others are hearing. If Ecumenist Mar 2012 #33
Refuse to face it? Lawlbringer Mar 2012 #61
Yes, I do, He said something he probably says in private and forgot where he was Ecumenist Mar 2012 #68
Afr? Lawlbringer Mar 2012 #84
Okay, lol...Just about everyone..(AND I MEAN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THE INTERNETS Ecumenist Mar 2012 #95
Frequently listening to loud music on headphones may not be that good for hearing LiberalLovinLug Mar 2012 #116
Distaste for Rick has NOTHING to do with what he said HangOnKids Mar 2012 #184
So what am I trying to lie about? Lawlbringer Mar 2012 #185
That would be I'm not I"m HangOnKids Mar 2012 #188
OH yeah Lawlbringer Mar 2012 #189
Sorry my debating with people who aren't worth debating with time is up HangOnKids Mar 2012 #190
Same to you, thanks for your precious time. Lawlbringer Mar 2012 #192
As a new tidbit: I evaded nothing my ego has nothing to do with this HangOnKids Mar 2012 #194
Who said he just pipi_k Mar 2012 #94
That's the biggest reach since NoGOPZone Mar 2012 #44
WTF is a Govt-nik?! FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #52
I think it was a character on Schoolhouse Rock NoGOPZone Mar 2012 #71
No offense intended... The Midway Rebel Mar 2012 #54
I don't think so pipi_k Mar 2012 #56
Wow, some of the responses I've gotten Lawlbringer Mar 2012 #57
Knowing what Santorum stands for... pipi_k Mar 2012 #73
lol I guess Lawlbringer Mar 2012 #88
Um, so here's the thing... pipi_k Mar 2012 #98
I suppose you also think that he said "blah people" too? EOTE Mar 2012 #82
Nope. Lawlbringer Mar 2012 #92
So you believe this guy would say, in public, that he doesn't want to help black people. EOTE Mar 2012 #107
Except I can't find that word anywhere. Iggo Mar 2012 #63
How often is, or how popular is the phrase "Government-nik used?" LanternWaste Mar 2012 #110
The ONLY links that google provides that actually uses that word EOTE Mar 2012 #113
That's a contradiction in terms. "The anti-war, government-nik"??? pnwmom Mar 2012 #122
Ahh...from the grave of LBJ..."make them deny it" nt LaydeeBug Mar 2012 #12
To all those who think he said that, what is a "government n-word"??? polichick Mar 2012 #14
He said "the anti-war government ***..." CJCRANE Mar 2012 #29
I wonder if he meant to say "anti-war big government..." polichick Mar 2012 #38
Yes, that seems likely. CJCRANE Mar 2012 #48
As far as I can tell, Republicans are simply corporate whores... polichick Mar 2012 #50
ummmm...noooooooo, government n*****r fits right in that context and something the GOPer would say uponit7771 Mar 2012 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Mar 2012 #103
#96 & #97 have an explanation that was new to me. polichick Mar 2012 #106
Oops Thrill Mar 2012 #17
This is NOT at all denyable. You can hear it all in the context. slampoet Mar 2012 #19
Also the stammering and stuttering in mid syllable is telling. grantcart Mar 2012 #23
It's the painc that immediately shows in his face in words that confirms it. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #35
Maybe he was channeling Python Loki Mar 2012 #27
"The new sherriff is ni-" IDemo Mar 2012 #36
That's it! DefenseLawyer Mar 2012 #46
Or Governor LePetomane: "Can't you see that man is... ?" Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2012 #60
Santorum should use a telelpromt-*blah*.... Raine1967 Mar 2012 #37
Yup. It's coming. BumRushDaShow Mar 2012 #40
The "F" bomb would be preferable etherealtruth Mar 2012 #155
NIG LoisB Mar 2012 #39
well, one thing we know about santorum newspeak Mar 2012 #43
If Republicans straight up called people slurs like "nigger" and "faggot", Jamaal510 Mar 2012 #49
I disagree ajk2821 Mar 2012 #131
Lois, as another black woman, I applaud you! Take back my Country is coded speech Ecumenist Mar 2012 #81
Don't you love how the spokesperson Can't do anything but attack the accuser? slampoet Mar 2012 #42
He's full of shit pipi_k Mar 2012 #47
Denying it with a wink, wink, nudge, nudge probably. shawn703 Mar 2012 #53
Meh - I don't attach any significance to verbal stumbles... Richardo Mar 2012 #55
"the anti-war, government nih" aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #58
More 'nig' than 'nih'. marble falls Mar 2012 #66
That's what pipi_k Mar 2012 #74
Bingo. slampoet Mar 2012 #69
Ain't, that's EXACTLY what I said. He uses it in private, got "happy", carried away AND... Ecumenist Mar 2012 #70
Thats what I think is the mindset of these so called conservatives, they talk .... marble falls Apr 2012 #231
OMG!! Evasporque Mar 2012 #72
Bullshit. Jackpine Radical Mar 2012 #75
He was in Wisconsin....probably saturated with racist tea-baggers Evasporque Mar 2012 #78
From the article bongbong Mar 2012 #79
He did NOT deny it... brooklynite Mar 2012 #83
In the quote, the spokesperson doesn't even deny it at all. slampoet Mar 2012 #87
That's pretty much the same tactic pipi_k Mar 2012 #102
Oh do I hate to defend Sicko Santo cali Mar 2012 #85
unnn, government ni****r would fit just fine in context of someone calling a person of color Souther uponit7771 Mar 2012 #89
Yel. To me... pipi_k Mar 2012 #99
Well, I was skeptical of this from the headlines and one-liners ... UNTIL TahitiNut Mar 2012 #86
I also watched the video more than once and it became very clear to me lumpy Mar 2012 #138
Prediction: On Monday all the pundits will play, "Is the n-word really bad since rap stars use it?" FSogol Mar 2012 #90
The racist repug base will be fine with it Ohio Joe Mar 2012 #100
not anything I wouldn't expect from him eShirl Mar 2012 #101
Freudian slip: when you say what you meant, instead of what you meant to say IDemo Mar 2012 #105
I've watched it many times in succession eyewall Mar 2012 #108
Wow. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #109
Santorum is still a candidate eyewall Mar 2012 #111
Maybe he was going to say "NAGGERS" Hugabear Mar 2012 #112
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BumRushDaShow Mar 2012 #115
Santorum is definitely racist ecstatic Mar 2012 #117
I would love if he really did accidentally drop the word chrisa Mar 2012 #120
Limbaugh's anal cysts would be on overdrive trying to come up with a spin aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #130
"anti-war government frogmarch Mar 2012 #124
Holy Shit!! GiveMeFreedom Mar 2012 #126
What you saw is what the republican party has become. bluestate10 Mar 2012 #164
He seemed very flustered when that came out of his mouth -- Arugula Latte Mar 2012 #127
He definitely almost dropped the N-bomb steve2470 Mar 2012 #134
He called the President a Government Nigger .... end of story Botany Mar 2012 #135
It isn't as though Santorum isn't capable of using obnoxiously crude words in view of lumpy Mar 2012 #136
Is this being covered at all on TV? aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #137
Me either. N/T missheidi Mar 2012 #139
Hey Rick, educational video for you jtuck004 Mar 2012 #140
a rethuglican teabagger a bigot cindyperry2010 Mar 2012 #141
Just when he thought his Google search results couldn't get any worse! n/t phylny Mar 2012 #143
I'll bet he was going to say negro but it was almost worse for him that he left it as ni... jimlup Mar 2012 #144
He's stupid, but not that stupid to say it intentionally. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2012 #145
OMG! You are a disgraceful bigot, Sanitorium! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2012 #146
Kicked for the Evening crowd. slampoet Mar 2012 #149
Like hell. He is appealing to the GOP base. The n words works for them. AlinPA Mar 2012 #151
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #152
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Mar 2012 #153
OH MY brettdale Mar 2012 #156
Just out of interest brettdale Mar 2012 #157
I just don't think Santorum did this. Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #158
have you seen the video brettdale Mar 2012 #159
Yes. Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #160
government nig???? brettdale Mar 2012 #162
What does that mean, if it's the N-word? Who says anything like that? Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #169
The phraze is a common slur shorthand that seems to have originated in the early 70's slampoet Mar 2012 #208
It's not common at all. As someone born in West Alabama in 1967, I've never heard it. Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #220
Oh baloney..... slampoet Mar 2012 #177
Well, good for you. Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #182
Do you have your ear muffs on? HangOnKids Mar 2012 #186
Nope. Too hot down here in Dallas for warm socks or earmuffs. Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #196
I just explained the context and you said it makes no sense. Explain HOW, like I did. slampoet Mar 2012 #207
No, you didn't explain the context. Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #221
Paul would be the least to say it Ter Mar 2012 #167
You want me to match you pictures of George Wallace posing with black people? Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #168
"Cracker" is worse than any Paul, Romney, or even Newt quote I've seen Ter Mar 2012 #178
Oh, my. n/t Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #181
You have got to be kidding. /nt yardwork Mar 2012 #201
Get new eyes. slampoet Mar 2012 #209
Elitist is nothing compared to cracker Ter Apr 2012 #242
Remember that Santorum has said racist things before in this campaign. yardwork Mar 2012 #200
That's the "blah people" thing. Yes, I agree Rih was about Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #215
It would mean the same thing as "welfare queen." It's a phrase used by racists. yardwork Mar 2012 #216
Citation, please. Bolo Boffin Mar 2012 #217
I guess you know better than everybody else. /nt yardwork Apr 2012 #230
What a f***kin racist pig! workinclasszero Mar 2012 #161
just amazing how little this is being covered by MSM.... steve2470 Mar 2012 #163
Evidently, he ProSense Mar 2012 #171
He's lying. He TOTALLY switched his thought the instant he realized what he was saying. -nt CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #173
There is no question what he was going to say... he probably is so comfortable nadine_mn Mar 2012 #174
Kick brettdale Mar 2012 #179
Could be he meant to say the slur, but I'm skeptical RZM Mar 2012 #180
still the msm sleeps brettdale Mar 2012 #187
very quick allusion to it here in the Chicago Tribune: steve2470 Mar 2012 #193
re the N word GarH Mar 2012 #191
kick brettdale Mar 2012 #195
Tampa Bay WTSP: Did Rick Santorum start to call President Barack Obama the n-word? The NAACP reacts steve2470 Mar 2012 #197
Kick brettdale Mar 2012 #198
Still true? theophilus Mar 2012 #199
Sorry but Woodroe Wilson and LBJ were two exceptions.... slampoet Mar 2012 #213
The HATER Continues to HATE fightthegoodfightnow Mar 2012 #205
Put a Swastika Armband on and get it over with! fascisthunter Mar 2012 #210
I think he was going to say "terrorist negotiator" taught_me_patience Mar 2012 #211
He was going to say "the anti-war, government nigger"? MNBrewer Mar 2012 #214
still???????? brettdale Mar 2012 #218
Not even the Huffingtonpost??????????? brettdale Mar 2012 #219
The phrase is a common slur shorthand that seems to have originated in the early 70's slampoet Mar 2012 #222
im kicking this thread brettdale Mar 2012 #223
I did not know that.... MNBrewer Mar 2012 #225
If he did do it, it was intentional. eggplant aubergine Mar 2012 #224
I think Frothy is cracking under the pressure auburngrad82 Mar 2012 #226
kicking brettdale Mar 2012 #227
kicking brettdale Mar 2012 #228
still kicking brettdale Apr 2012 #229
kicking brettdale Apr 2012 #232
kick brettdale Apr 2012 #234
Man up, Rick. You went there. KamaAina Apr 2012 #240
kick brettdale Apr 2012 #241
It certainly seems like he did agentS Apr 2012 #251
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
1. The usual race-baiting from desperate Republicans
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:26 AM
Mar 2012

Here's what they want to do at this moment: ride white conservative resentment about the Trayvon Martin killing into votes.

Here's how you do it: attempt to provoke people into accusations of racism that have some minor plausible deniability. "See, those people think everything is racist!"

This is clearly part of a strategy. If it wasn't so cretinous and distasteful, it might even be amusing.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
67. I think I disagree. I think it was a slip and not planned. Only because of what he did after he
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:45 PM
Mar 2012

said NIG. Unless he is the best actor in the world, academy award level, the abrupt, stumbling, change
of subject seemed 100% real to me. His post "NIG" reaction also PROVES 1) He really almost said it
and 2) His denial shows he is a liar

yardwork

(61,632 posts)
202. I agree. He started to say the "n" word, realized where he was, and panicked.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 11:51 AM
Mar 2012

That means that Santorum is very comfortable using the "n" word with groups of people who agree. This wasn't a dog whistle. This was a slip revealing that Santorum talks this way a lot.

Richard D

(8,754 posts)
2. Words that start with "nig"
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:26 AM
Mar 2012

Can't say that I see another possibility . . . ("nigh.." words with soft "g", such as "night" removed)


nigella
nigellas
niger
nigers
niggard
niggarded
niggarding
niggardise
niggardised
niggardises
niggardising
niggardize
niggardized
niggardizes
niggardizing
niggardliness
niggardlinesses
niggardly
niggards
nigger
niggerdom
niggerdoms
niggered
niggerhead
niggerheads
niggering
niggerish
niggerism
niggerisms
niggerling
niggerlings
niggers
niggery
niggle
niggled
niggler
nigglers
niggles
nigglier
niggliest
niggling
nigglingly
nigglings
niggly
nigh
nighed
nigher
nighest
nighing
nighly
nigrescence
nigrescences
nigrescent
nigricant
nigrified
nigrifies
nigrify
nigrifying
nigritude
nigritudes
nigromancies
nigromancy
nigrosin
nigrosine
nigrosines
nigrosins

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
6. LOL!! A.B.S.O.L.U.T.E.L.Y Right, Richard D. He can deny it all he wants but he said what he did
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:36 AM
Mar 2012

Last edited Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:57 PM - Edit history (1)

without thinking and the panicked horror on his face confirms his intent.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
142. exactly..the aftermath confirms it. Say he intended to let that word half slip as a cue
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 04:55 PM
Mar 2012

to bigots out there. He would have NEVER,EVER been able to "act" like he did after he said "NIG"

wish I had one of those super advanced systems like the FBI, so I could hear the NIG better. I can't
discern it like everyone else is.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
8. Ah yes, nigella
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:38 AM
Mar 2012

Poor Rick was probably craving some tasty nigella flavored curry and it overwhelmed his brain circuits. I do it all the time. Yum.

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
13. My thought exactly
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:42 AM
Mar 2012

Perhaps Hogan Gidley can clarify exactly what Ricky intended to say there, cause it sure sounded like the 1st half of the n-bomb.

black => blah
nig => niggly ????

And thanks to the Zimmermans, we also have
coon => goon

polichick

(37,152 posts)
18. Except he didn't use it alone. The term would have been...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:49 AM
Mar 2012

"government n-word" - so what is that exactly?

wial

(437 posts)
96. I've read it's a common usage on the right
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:22 PM
Mar 2012

when they think no one is listening. Someone on reddit says he's heard it used in conversation. Take that for what it's worth. It means something like "welfare queen".

wial

(437 posts)
97. here's a blog claiming the same thing
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:24 PM
Mar 2012
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/government-nigger

I don’t know if any of you grew up with a racist mom, but I’ve DEFINITELY heard the term “government nigger” before. It means someone who relies on welfare, does drugs or engages in some kind of questionable activity, and is bad at managing money (also a popular quote at my place, “spending like a nigger”) and bad at parenting. they’re those people FOX News went around interviewing and trying to outsmart to prove that Obama’s voters only wanted a black President.

So like, don’t tell me “government nigger” doesn’t make sense. It makes sense. I instantly knew what Santorum was talking about. And it’s fucking disgusting. And I can not wait until the day this man is hawking a reality show because he’s been kicked out of the sphere of national fucking relevance.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
104. Well, if that's actually a term people use maybe it is what he was going for...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:42 PM
Mar 2012

In that case, Santorum is uglier than ever - and he was plenty ugly before.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
172. Yes, like people use "Sand Nigger" as a derogatory term for Middle Eastern people,
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:31 PM
Mar 2012

or "Boat Nigger" to describe a lackey who works on a boat.

The key? "Nigger" takes everything down to a lower level. That's the point of the word.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
165. Replace the 'n' word with the 'a' word
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:23 PM
Mar 2012

“We know the candidate Barack Obama, what he was like – the anti-war government nig... America was a source for division around the world, that what we were doing was wrong," Santorum said.


“We know the candidate Barack Obama, what he was like – the anti-war government ASSHOLE... America was a source for division around the world, that what we were doing was wrong," Santorum said.

See, Santorum using the 'N' word would make sense in HIS mind.



slampoet

(5,032 posts)
22. Not only can you hear him say "NIGG" you also hear him try to recover with "AF"
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:03 AM
Mar 2012

and try to say African American.

The context triple dooms him and i have heard a THOUSAND bigoted white people try to recover in the EXACT same way.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
24. Impressive case made! Thanks
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:04 AM
Mar 2012

and no other letter could sound like an "n" or a "g" - and the vowel is clearly "i"

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
51. Omg ! hysterical. Is it absolutely clear that he actually said 'nig"? I can't hear it that
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:14 PM
Mar 2012

well. But, what's telling in itself is what he did AFTER that. Obviously, his mind going a million miles
a minute, trying to immediately change the subject. He didn't finish the thought.

Yep...Guilty

What's weird is, that the guy was actually a bit honest. His reaction shows he can lie with the best of them

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
59. How about NEGOTIATOR?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:25 PM
Mar 2012

I can't stand Santorum—I frankly think the Google search term is accurate—but he could easily have been about to say "government negotiator." I'm not willing to assume the worst just because he's a complete asshole.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
77. So why didn't he just finish his thought?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:59 PM
Mar 2012

If he wanted to say negotiator, why didn't he? Why did he get all flustered after saying it and then move on to something else?

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
147. negotiator???? Yeah he wanted to point out Obama was
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:49 PM
Mar 2012

a negotiator
and then decided against it ?

CrispyQ

(36,474 posts)
206. Perhaps he remembered, mid-sentence, that the Negotiator was killed off &
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:05 PM
Mar 2012

thought his comment was in bad taste?

Priceline Says Goodbye To Shatner’s “Negotiator” – Watch Final Ad

http://trekmovie.com/2012/01/19/priceline-says-goodbye-to-shatners-negotiator-watch-final-ad/



WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
235. Yes, exactly
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:51 AM
Apr 2012

He could have realized that this might paint Obama in a good light and quickly backed away—thus the stumble.

My point, of course, is that none of us really knows what he was about to say. Laugh all you want. Doesn't mean you know anymore than I do, or anyone else here.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
114. People don't speak perfectly and
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:27 PM
Mar 2012

it's ridiculous to think they do. Maybe he lost his train of thought. Who knows? But I'm certainly not going to parse syllables in the guy's speech and assume I know what he was going to say.

There are legitimate reasons to call this guy a scumbag, and this kind of thing only makes the people pointing the finger look petty and stupid. NOBODY really knows what he was about to say and making assumptions is ridiculous.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
118. Ahhh, OK. So he just happened to have said half of the n word and THEN happens
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:49 PM
Mar 2012

to get flustered. Because we all know how flustered one gets when mentioning a negotiator.

It doesn't look petty and stupid because just about any person capable of adding 2 and 2 knows what Santorum was about to say. NO ONE gets that flustered after making an honest little flub.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
123. He could have gotten flustered because if he said he was a negotiator that
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:56 PM
Mar 2012

potentially casts Obama in a positive light which no republican wants to do.
I mean heck he got us out of the mess that Bush got us into in Iraq and they still wont really acknowledge that accomplishment.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
129. That's about the most likely explanation I've heard which doesn't suggest
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:12 PM
Mar 2012

he was about to say the n-word.

In spite of it being the second most likely explanation, it's still insanely unlikely that that's what he was going to say. Watching the video is pretty damning and pretty damned clear.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
125. It's petty and stupid because
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:01 PM
Mar 2012

you DON'T know what he was about to say. How can you possibly know, if he didn't say it? As I pointed out, he COULD have been about to say "negotiator," which would have worked within the context of his sentence. And he didn't look flustered at all. He simply stumbled over words—as everyone does now and then.

YOU are making an assumption based on your bias against the man. You assume you can read his mind and know what he was about to say. But if you're honest about it, if you look at it without that bias—as we democrats try to do—then you can't possibly know he was about to make a racial slur.

There are a least a dozen other reasons to despise this guy, but this kind of nonsense just smacks of grasping for straws.

And I say this as someone who thinks Santorum is a blight on the face of the earth.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
128. Because there are only so many words that begin with "nig"
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:10 PM
Mar 2012

And none of them make any sense, including negotiator which is completely nonsensical. And he looked INCREDIBLY flustered. Doesn't get in anything semi-coherent for the next several seconds.

You're right, I don't KNOW for sure that he wasn't about to say the n-word, I'm just 99.9% sure, just like I'm 99.9% sure that he didn't say "blah people". But hell, maybe I should give him the benefit of the doubt for that one too?

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
175. The Bottom Line is
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:06 PM
Mar 2012

you don't know, so why speculate? What do you gain from it? It just looks petty.

Attack the man for his stance on the issues and the things he actually DOES say.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
183. Wrong WW. He starts to say something he OBVIOUSLY stopped saying
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:57 AM
Mar 2012

Why is that? He does not continue with the word he began to say, why is that? The old "it looks petty" canard is really weak. Try harder next time.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
238. You think calling out a very clear instance of racism is petty.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:11 PM
Apr 2012

Got it. Once again, I'm not 100% certain he was going to drop the N-bomb, just 99% certain. I'm so sure that you never call anything out unless you have 100% certainty. Yeah, right. Your ridiculous arguments are the only petty thing here.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
243. How is is a very clear instance?
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:20 AM
Apr 2012

The man didn't finish what he was saying. I've pointed out the alternative word. There are probably others I haven't thought of.

Assuming he's about to say the n word says more about you and your prejudices against him, than it does about the man himself.

And again, I say this as someone who completely despises Santorum. My only argument is that YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS ABOUT TO SAY. You cannot possibly know, because he didn't actually SAY it.

So how, may I ask, is that a ridiculous argument?

Did you actually hear him say the n word? No?

I rest my case.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
246. Your alternative words are bone headed.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:27 AM
Apr 2012

First of all, "negotiator" doesn't begin with "nig", and that's clearly what he said. Even if it wasn't, negotiator makes absolutely zero sense. Once again, I can't be 100% certain of what he was about to say, just 99% or so. If that doesn't meet your standard of excellence, I really couldn't give a rat's ass. You apparently think that Santorum is worthy of far more consideration than he applies to others. I'm capable of making a reasonable assumption on my own. That you aren't, speaks extremely poorly on your behalf.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
248. How are you pronouncing Negotiator?
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:28 AM
Apr 2012

Are you suggesting you can tell the difference between "Neg" and "Nig"?

You're being ridiculous.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
249. You're damned right I can.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:36 AM
Apr 2012

And most educated people can as well. There is a clear, definite difference between the words. You're being ridiculous, going out of your way to defend a racist piece of shit.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
252. Then you're quite an amazing individual,
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:38 PM
Apr 2012

because most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference, since most people pronounce negotiate as "ni-gotiate" or "neh-gotiate" and non "nee-gotiate." And as much as I'd like to give you an award for having the sharpest, most unbiased ears in the universe, I highly doubt you or anyone else can tell me definitively that he's about to say the n word.

The truth is, you're coming at this from the point of view of someone who already despises the man and you're letting that emotion color your judgment.

And your only real response to me is to accuse me of defending him. I'm not defending him. I'm merely saying that none of us know what he really intended to say. Could it have been the n word? Sure. But I'm not willing the jump to that conclusion based on this video. And doing so is just as petty as the GOP parsing every word a democrat says and spinning it to their advantage.

I like to think we progressives are above that kind of thing. But apparently we aren't.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
253. Only one of those pronounciations is correct.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:42 PM
Apr 2012

It's a soft e, not an i or a hard e.

And you are, without a doubt, defending this piece of shit. I don't know how you can say otherwise. You already know of this asshole trying to claim that he said "blah people" to cover up his racist bullshit, yet you're defending him to the end when he stops himself from saying something even more racist. You are 100% defending the man.

I'd very much like to think that progressives would be above that kind of thing. Shame you insist otherwise.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
255. Yes, only one of these pronunciations is correct, but
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:48 PM
Apr 2012

not everyone pronounces it correctly.

And if you can't see that what I'm defending is a PRINCIPLE, not the man himself, then I genuinely feel sorry for you.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
256. You're going out of your way to defend Santorum.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:03 PM
Apr 2012

And if you don't think that a man who has been speaking publicly for decades wouldn't pronounce that word correctly, you've got another thing coming to you.

You've made your position quite clear. You're willing to defend a man who just recently said that he said "blah people" rather than an insensitive, racial remark. You think it's even somewhat probable that he either said "negotiator" which doesn't have the same beginning sound and makes absolutely zero sense, or "governmentnik" which also doesn't make sense and isn't even a word as opposed to the word that he was clearly going to say, yet stopped himself from saying.

I truly wonder if you're ever likely to give progressives this ridiculous benefit of the doubt you're giving lil Ricky.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
259. Um, ooookay...
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:42 PM
Apr 2012


I'm sorry, but that's just too ridiculous to respond to any farther. As I said before, I'm defending a PRINCIPLE, not a man. It's too bad that you can't comprehend such an idea, but there's not much I can do about it.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
261. You're defending a man who said "nig" days after he claims to have said "blah people".
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:54 PM
Apr 2012

This man clearly has issues with race and you are utterly blind to that. I can guarantee you that if Santorum had stopped himself and actually said "blah people", you'd be defending him for that too. You simply can't see that he's a racist ass. Blinders are very comforting for some people.

NoGOPZone

(2,971 posts)
204. By all means, let's be more concerned
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 11:57 AM
Mar 2012

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with our own pettiness than a Presidential candidate's potential racism.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
237. Potential being the key word
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:55 AM
Apr 2012

"potential" racism. You're making an assumption that could "potentially" be true. But we don't know that it is. And assuming it is makes us no better than any of the asswipes in the GOP who parse every word a Democrat utters.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
239. So when republicans attack Social Security and Medicaid.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:12 PM
Apr 2012

We can't call them out on attacking the poor, right? We can't according to your ridiculous logic, that would be petty, after all. Right? We can't accuse them of attacking the poor because we don't know that's what they're doing, they might just really, really like the rich.

You really need a big dose of reality.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
245. With somewhat less respect...
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 10:24 AM
Apr 2012

that response was the dumbest I've seen in a long, long time. And your inability to defend your position in the slightest just adds to that.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
247. With continued respect
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:25 AM
Apr 2012

I've defended my position a number of times in this thread. I didn't think I had to repeat it slowly, but I will, if you insist.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
250. Yeah, saying another's position is dumb and leaving it at that is a great defense.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:38 AM
Apr 2012

The analogy is 100% apt. You haven't said a single thing to negate that. You're defending an asshole who insists he said "blah people" instead of "black people", now you're totally willing to give him an insane benefit of the doubt.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
254. You go ahead
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:44 PM
Apr 2012

and believe what you want to believe.

The difference is that he clearly said "black people." We heard it.

In this instance, we didn't. Because he didn't say a complete word. You can make all the assumptions you want, but that doesn't make you right, and it certainly doesn't make jumping to conclusions with little or no evidence any less petty.

Again, I'm not defending the man, and if you could divorce yourself of your obvious emotion on this, you'd see that. I'm merely saying that emulating the GOP by jumping to conclusions is neither wise nor productive.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
257. You can deny it all you want, you're clearly defending him.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:04 PM
Apr 2012

And once again, you've said absolutely nothing regarding why my analogy was not apt, you've simply ignored it.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
258. And you're clearly wrong
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:39 PM
Apr 2012

But go ahead and wear blinders, if you like.

As for your analogy, why should I discuss something that clearly doesn't apply? Why is it my job to educate you? Judging by your reaction to everything I've said, it's obvious you have no real interest in looking at any of this objectively, so it doesn't really matter much what I say, does it?

You've proven that time and again in this thread.

I've stated over and over that my concern is fairness and objectivity and not jumping to conclusions based on emotion. You obviously don't get that. And that's on you, not me.



EOTE

(13,409 posts)
260. Ahhh, I see, that's how it works.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:52 PM
Apr 2012

Simply dismiss something by saying it's stupid and get indignant when asked to defend yourself.

If that's how it works, everything you just said was stupid. I really don't need to address it further than that. And I should further preempt you by saying that anything you could possibly say in response is also rather stupid.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
121. Brain fart maybe? It happens to alot of people and it could be what happened to him.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:52 PM
Mar 2012

Not that I will be voting for him as I believe he truly is the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
132. And it typically happens right after someone says something they shouldn't in public.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:18 PM
Mar 2012

There's no word that makes sense after what he said aside from the one suggested. Negotiator makes no sense, neither does governmentnik. This is stretching of the worst order.

robbob

(3,531 posts)
133. Let's see "nig...nig...nig"
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:34 PM
Mar 2012

"nig"-otiator. Sorry, he has an accent, but I still don't see him pronouncing "negotiator" like that...

gateley

(62,683 posts)
3. My natural instinct is that he wouldn't use the N word -- my sense of him is that he wouldn't
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:27 AM
Mar 2012

use it in public OR private. But I've misjudged before (always too eager to give people the benefit of the doubt, I think). But I can't imagine what ELSE he might have said right there, can you?

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
4. There is a certain "meanness" to Rick, much like $omney...They try to hide it
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:32 AM
Mar 2012

but it eventually comes out when they're under stress. His "anti" stance against everything, it seems, that gives joy, happiness, or security of any kind to others brings out the meanness and selfishness in them...

gateley

(62,683 posts)
16. Well he has been showing signs of stress lately, and interesting observation
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:47 AM
Mar 2012

about the meanness. Guess I should pay closer attention but I try to see/read as little as possible about these guys.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
5. He got carried away and forgot where he was. my mother used to tel me to be careful how
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:34 AM
Mar 2012

you behave because what you do and say at home and in comfort, you'll do in public

HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
26. Our mamas were right
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:08 AM
Mar 2012

It makes you wonder what goes on inside those homes because you know it's worse than the "face" they put on in public. Also makes you wonder about their (lack of proper) raising.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
11. Nope, it sure sounded like it, a Freudian slip. He's clearly IMO a very
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:41 AM
Mar 2012

immature and emotional person. I think it just slipped out.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
45. I always thought he was like a fifth grade project
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:59 AM
Mar 2012

The glue always gives way, making the entire thing a sloppy mess.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
65. he's been a little unglued, I think, for a long time
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:36 PM
Mar 2012

don't know where I've seen the clips - but even speaking on the senate floor, he sounds rather megalomaney when he gets his passion on.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
154. I think he may have gotten a shot of testosterone he can't handle
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:42 PM
Mar 2012

Until recently, he has always struck me as the runt. The kid who was too small to play sports with the big guys. He has somewhat of a slight build and a sort of gentle, school boy, protected by mom for too long, appearance. He dropped aggressive bills but has never really been very aggressive publicly.

Now that he has become a contender in this primary, the good 'ol boys are welcoming him. He can finally smoke cigars, drink beer, and cuss with them.

I think he learned a new 'behind closed doors' word he would not have used except for in that company and it almost slipped out.

He's like a nerdy college kid who finally got to join the guys who call each other bastards and SOBs and let it slip in polite company.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
166. I think you may be right I had a friend who loved to get them
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 08:29 PM
Mar 2012

And was always obnoxious afterwards for a while.

Of course he said that it didn't effect his behavior just gave him more energy.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
170. I was thinking something more natural
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:29 PM
Mar 2012

A male ego boost from his recent success. Suddenly he's a player and he has manly men are cheering him on rather than just laughing at him and his sweater vests. He strikes me as a person who other men would not have thought of as an equal.

Spazito

(50,355 posts)
30. After his "black welfare" (we all know what he actually said) comments...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:18 AM
Mar 2012

and his race-baiting, I am only surprised he didn't come out with the N word sooner.

He is a racist, extremist POS, imo.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
176. I agree - his previous slips and comments are along similar lines
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:08 PM
Mar 2012

This didn't come out of nowhere. Just like the "Blah" people - he was surprised people reacted badly to it - in his world that was ok, and when he caught called on it, he made up that lameass excuse.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
62. maybe
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:32 PM
Mar 2012

"anti-government negro" is more believable than the other -- but still, don't think he would really go there

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
119. I think he's been hanging out in private with too many tea partiers
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:50 PM
Mar 2012

who don't hesitate to use that word.

And it rubbed off on him.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
21. Not even close. He obviously caught himself in mid word of something and then stuttered and
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:02 AM
Mar 2012

stammered trying to recover.

Now what word starting with nig . . . that in context could be applied to President Obama that would cause you to stutter and stammer?

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
32. Oh frikkin baloney.....
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:23 AM
Mar 2012

Not only can you hear him say "NIGG" you also hear him try to recover with "AF"

and try to say African American.

The context triple dooms him and i have heard a THOUSAND bigoted white people try to recover in the EXACT same way.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
150. Me too Then the eyes looking around like oops forgot so and so is around or
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:59 PM
Mar 2012

realize where they are or could get in trouble work wise

though being in public isn't necessarily a deterrent with these types who at home have no problem using it among the very young

and let us not forget his belief that it's all blah people........

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
33. Nope, sorry, He said EXACTLY what everyone except you and a few others are hearing. If
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:25 AM
Mar 2012

you want to minimise what he is saying to an entire segment of America who work as hard to build this country as everyone else, knock yourself out. However, he said EXACTLY what everyone else heard and is hearing. As long as we refuse to face the growing nastiness in this country but being unwilling to hear what is right before us, NOTHING will ever change.

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
61. Refuse to face it?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:31 PM
Mar 2012

Do you really think he'd get up on stage and just say that word? He's crazy, not stupid. And what's the context that using that ugly word in his sentence? Not that the word has any place, or will fit anywhere, but it wasn't the place to put a noun in his sentence, was it?

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
68. Yes, I do, He said something he probably says in private and forgot where he was
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:46 PM
Mar 2012

the fact that he tried to correct it by inserting "Afr" leaves no mistake about what he meant. He said EXACTLY what you, well "maybe" not you but most everyone else heard.

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
84. Afr?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:08 PM
Mar 2012

I heard Uh.

And don't drag that crap about not wanting to hear, please. I am dying to hear him slip up, but something unmistakable like his "no, I said blah people" ridiculous gaffe.

Maybe I should pop my headphones into my speakers and play at max volume. I'm just trying to be objective, rather than letting my distaste for the guy cloud my perception.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
95. Okay, lol...Just about everyone..(AND I MEAN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THE INTERNETS
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:20 PM
Mar 2012

pretty much blew up twitter), everyone but you heard it. It's okay. I'm not the type to place race cards. Family is so mixed:Afrobosnian nephew, Brazilian nephews and nieces, another nephew who is black, pinoy, mexican and italian, husband is Bohemian Czech from Deepindaharta. Irish ggranfather, Chinese GGGRandfathers, French Grandmother, Moorish ggrandmothers, etcetc-- but when I hear that word and it's IMMEDIATELY followed with the attempt to insert the ubiquitous "african-american) but he stutters and stammers as he simultaneously has a panicked look on his face, well as first my mother and then Randi Rhodes said, " If someone tells you who they are...BELIEVE THEM!"

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
116. Frequently listening to loud music on headphones may not be that good for hearing
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:42 PM
Mar 2012

Just saying.

Hey, if that's what you heard ok, but to me not only was there a clear "Afr.." But its not just that, its the combination of all these elements that convicts him.

1. the "government nig.."
2. the quick recovery to start to say "Afr.."
3. the quick realization that he couldn't use that word either, because then everyone would know the word he was trying to use before that, and besides it did not fit into the sentence and that would also give him away.
4. His stumbling and the fear in his eyes. If he was just stumbling over an innocent word the normal reaction would be to simply repeat until he got it right, maybe a small chuckle at himself at his faux pas.
5. The total switch of topic in order to quickly move on after realizing there was no way to make it right.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
184. Distaste for Rick has NOTHING to do with what he said
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:11 AM
Mar 2012

Fifth graders play dodge ball, most adults do not. The trying to be "objective" angle is a an old canard used by liars when they get caught BTW.

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
189. OH yeah
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:32 AM
Mar 2012

Just saw what I typed. THanks.

Anyway, you implied that I was lying. What do I have to lie about?

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
192. Same to you, thanks for your precious time.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:43 AM
Mar 2012

But as a parting tidbit: evasion is a tool used by those who throw around baseless claims to pad their own egos.

Sorry to see that my original opinion upset you so much that you'd have to lower yourself so much as to make a comment and then flee.

Have a nice weekend!

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
194. As a new tidbit: I evaded nothing my ego has nothing to do with this
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 04:07 AM
Mar 2012

Your little jabs of RW BS are so funny. I am not fleeing anything YOU are just not worth talking to. See you in the brickyard dude.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
94. Who said he just
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:18 PM
Mar 2012

got up on stage and said that word like it was a planned event?

He didn't appear to be reading from a script, so it seems to have popped up from his subconscious mind and through his lips.

Just like when people accidentally say a swear word in mixed company or in front of children. Totally unscripted.

Why? Because they're used to saying such words.

Santorum didn't PLAN on saying that word. But it did almost slip out, much to his apparent consternation.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
56. I don't think so
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:23 PM
Mar 2012

Like someone else said...WTF is a "Government-nik", and why would he stop in the middle of it and change direction?

Also...I had Mr Pipi listen to it. He is hard of hearing, but even HE could hear what Santorum started to say...

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
57. Wow, some of the responses I've gotten
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:23 PM
Mar 2012

are pretty funny. Like I'm using that ugly word myself.

I'm not defending the guy himself, but the fact that some people think that he would go up and say that shit is no different from when the right launches their ridiculous attacks on us. As Liberals, don't we pride ourselves on common sense? Take a swipe with Occam's Razor. What context would it have been used for? An Anti-War Nig-Imeanuh....

Come on. Really?

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
73. Knowing what Santorum stands for...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:55 PM
Mar 2012

it's more likely than not that he would use the N word against a black person no matter what the subject was.

and see, here's the thing...

I've often pissed off people here because I don't tend to see racism around every corner. I think the words, "racist" and "bigot" are too freely used, so I don't see myself as having knee-jerk reactions.

And I tried...I really did...to give him the benefit of the doubt.

There is no other word in the English language that I know of that starts with "nig" except "niggardly" but his use of that word would have made absolutely no sense whatsoever. Plus the word he was probably looking for would have been a noun.

But I have a feeling that even if he had come right out and said the word in all its disgustingness, there would still be some who would insist that we didn't really hear what we clearly heard.


Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
88. lol I guess
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:12 PM
Mar 2012

I definitely wouldn't be surprised to find out he uses it casually in private conversation.


And like I said in another post, there are people who defend against his ridiculous "recovery" where he claims he said blah people instead of black people. I'm just trying to be objective in judging someone who I have such intense hatred for. If he out and said it, I'd say, okay, this guy is even worse than I had originally thought. And he'd drop to where I hold Ron Paul. But this could be tongue twisting, gaffing. But I've been flamed for other opinions that don't leap to the most horrendous conclusions imaginable.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
98. Um, so here's the thing...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:28 PM
Mar 2012

if it's not surprising that he would say it in casually in private conversation, what makes it beyond belief that he might SLIP and nearly say it in public?

And really, it's not the point that he only nearly said it...

The point is, if that's what he says in private, it's a pretty good indication of what his prejudices might be.

Just the same as if he had started out almost, but not quite finishing the word "bitches" in regards to women. Yeah, cool if he didn't finish the word, but if his casual conversation involves him referring to women as "bitches", then it doesn't look real good for him as a man.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
82. I suppose you also think that he said "blah people" too?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:08 PM
Mar 2012

Come on, the guy has proven that he's both an idiot and an asshole. This doesn't surprise me at all.

Do you also defend his "blah people" comment? Do you think he got all flustered and stopped himself because he said "government-nik"? Really? I have to believe you've got a bit more common sense than that.

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
92. Nope.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:16 PM
Mar 2012

He didn't stop himself, he trailed off. You could hear him say black people. This is different. It's arguable.

I dunno. I want him to stumble so bad he falls on his face and loses the election (not before he takes the crazies from Paul, and the douchebags from Romney) with something so glaringly obvious that it wipes him out and staggers the whole Republican party. Not something that can be debated. Just trying to be objective.

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
107. So you believe this guy would say, in public, that he doesn't want to help black people.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:50 PM
Mar 2012

But you believe that that Santorum actually said "Government-nik" which is not even a word, and then got all flustered about it and stopped himself. Rather than stopping himself from saying "ni**er". Yeah, that makes all kinds of sense.

You're twisting into all sorts of weird contortions to justify what this ass has said.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
110. How often is, or how popular is the phrase "Government-nik used?"
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:58 PM
Mar 2012

How often is, or how popular is the phrase "Government-nik used?" You can of course provide relevant examples of its use in contemporary politics? Compare and contrast this against the popularity, and usage of the word "nigger".

Additionally, if he did indeed intend to use this benign phrase (as you so "objectively" believe), what precisely compelled him to stop and replace it with "Afr...", and how does that fit in to the context?

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
113. The ONLY links that google provides that actually uses that word
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:13 PM
Mar 2012

are a couple of links suggesting that's what Santorum said. In other words, it's not a word at all.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
29. He said "the anti-war government ***..."
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:17 AM
Mar 2012

Seems like the conservative version of an "Uncle Tom" (but the opposite meaning).

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
48. Yes, that seems likely.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:07 PM
Mar 2012

It's the Repubs' fault for coming up with these convoluted phrases. It's like Harrison Ford said to George Lucas "you can write this s*** but you sure can't say it".

It also points up the fact that the Repubs are pro-war but anti-government, which is a strange combination!

polichick

(37,152 posts)
50. As far as I can tell, Republicans are simply corporate whores...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:13 PM
Mar 2012

In that context, pro-war and anti-government works just fine.

Response to uponit7771 (Reply #91)

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
19. This is NOT at all denyable. You can hear it all in the context.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:57 AM
Mar 2012

"We know. We know the candidate Barack Obama what he was like. The anti-war, government nigg- the Af-, the America was a source for division around the world."



You can not only hear him almost say the N-word ("nigg&quot

but you also hear him Fail to insert African American afterwards with the "Af" syllable.

BUSTED you BIGOT.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
46. That's it!
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:01 PM
Mar 2012

On behalf of Rock Ridge, it's my privilege to present this laurel, and hearty handshake to our new...

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
37. Santorum should use a telelpromt-*blah*....
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:31 AM
Mar 2012

It's just a matter of time before he really gets caught on a hot mic -- I thought he would drop the *F* bomb before this.

BumRushDaShow

(129,067 posts)
40. Yup. It's coming.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:52 AM
Mar 2012

If he stays in the race long enough, he's going to get so carried away in the heat of his massive ego, he's going to drop some bomb that he can't "blah" or "ni-gurgle" over.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
155. The "F" bomb would be preferable
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:06 PM
Mar 2012

If stressed, anxious ..angry ... I will drop the 'F' bomb and any other number of obscenities.

I will guarantee I will not use racial or ethnic epithets ...

My use of obscenities may make me boorish and crude ... but I greatly prefer that to being a bigot /racist.

I can forgive curse words a politician throws out ... I can't accept ot fotgive this kind of thing

LoisB

(7,206 posts)
39. NIG
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:51 AM
Mar 2012

He absolutely, positively started to say "ni**er". As a Black woman and a FLAMING LIBERAL, I wish they would just come right out and say it. Goodness knows that's what they're all thinking. The entire "take back my country" meme is code for "get that ni**er out of OUR White House".

newspeak

(4,847 posts)
43. well, one thing we know about santorum
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:58 AM
Mar 2012

is he sure is one hell of a fabricator; right up there with little boots.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
49. If Republicans straight up called people slurs like "nigger" and "faggot",
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:08 PM
Mar 2012

they know that would be political suicide in the GE. By doing that, I'm sure they would even be kissing goodbye to conservatives like Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, J.C. Watts, Apostle Claver Kamau-Imani, GOPride, and the Log Cabin Republicans. They want to be able to use dog whistles so they can please the hardcore right-wing, while simultaneously being able to deny any intentions of being bigoted.

ajk2821

(89 posts)
131. I disagree
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:12 PM
Mar 2012

I think there Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, et al, would have to think about it for all of 5 seconds before they could rationalize why they are staying in the GOP if the GOP used slurs. Cain, Thomas, etc know that the left and middle of the population don't want them and it would bolster their standing in the GOP if they accepted the slurs.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
81. Lois, as another black woman, I applaud you! Take back my Country is coded speech
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:07 PM
Mar 2012

that anyone with with 3 brain cells can understand. It ain't rocket science. What is disappointing are people who twist and fold themselves to the nth degree in an effort to purposefully ignore and deny the 12 ton gorilla standing on their favorite shoes. Amen, Lois, Amen!

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
47. He's full of shit
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:03 PM
Mar 2012

OK, maybe he didn't actually go through with it, but he certainly was about to!

I saw this video on Facebook about 45 minutes ago. Tried real hard to give him the benefit of the doubt, but a friend and I both agree that the only noun in the English language we know of that starts off "nig" is the N word.

I wish he hadn't caught himself.

He would have been finished. Kaput.

Political dead meat for a long time, if not forever.

Sleazy weasel. He makes me nauseous.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
53. Denying it with a wink, wink, nudge, nudge probably.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:16 PM
Mar 2012

Wouldn't surprise me if that's just the thing the Republican base needs to hear to get excited enough to get out and vote for him over Romney in the coming weeks.

Richardo

(38,391 posts)
55. Meh - I don't attach any significance to verbal stumbles...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:21 PM
Mar 2012

God knows I have enough trouble completing a sentence, let alone after months of travel and with uninterrupted non-stop media coverage.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
58. "the anti-war, government nih"
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:24 PM
Mar 2012

Sounds like something out of Blazing Saddles. If that's the word he almost used, it means he probably says that all the time with ease when he's in private with his handlers and no one calls him on it.

marble falls

(57,099 posts)
66. More 'nig' than 'nih'.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:44 PM
Mar 2012

Its not like this is the straw that broke the camel's back.

Santorum certainly has the ability to polarize folks and there's no one half in or half out of the Santorum boat that will make any decisions to support him over this kerfafle.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
70. Ain't, that's EXACTLY what I said. He uses it in private, got "happy", carried away AND...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:51 PM
Mar 2012

forgot where he was.

marble falls

(57,099 posts)
231. Thats what I think is the mindset of these so called conservatives, they talk ....
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 11:37 AM
Apr 2012

a nastier sort of BS in private all the time and they feel like they are some sort of majority and they get comfortable in a room full of the like minded and they say what they really say in private.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
75. Bullshit.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:58 PM
Mar 2012

This just solidifies him with his base. Now they know he's really, truly one of them.

Face it--nobody likely to be upset by the "N-word" was planning to vote for Frothy anyway.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
79. From the article
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:03 PM
Mar 2012

> "You know, I'm not going to dignify that with"

AKA, "you caught us & I gotta spin Frothy's hatred into something else",

AKA, "teh state of denial"

brooklynite

(94,589 posts)
83. He did NOT deny it...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:08 PM
Mar 2012

...his aide did. Perhaps someone could ask the Candidate directly what he was trying to say?

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
87. In the quote, the spokesperson doesn't even deny it at all.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:12 PM
Mar 2012

Instead they attack the accuser and THEN say there is no dignified response.

Which we all know is almost true. There is no dignified reply except contrition.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
102. That's pretty much the same tactic
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:37 PM
Mar 2012

I would see from an ex husband.

When caught red handed in something or other, he would turn around and attack his accuser.


Another person I knew would do the "It doesn't deserve a response" thing while acting all hurt and insulted.

I dunno...maybe it's me, but if someone misinterprets what I say, the first thing I try to do is clear up the misunderstanding.

Not get all snotty and blame the person for misunderstanding in the first place.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
85. Oh do I hate to defend Sicko Santo
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:10 PM
Mar 2012

but context wise the n word makes little sense. I don't buy it.

uponit7771

(90,346 posts)
89. unnn, government ni****r would fit just fine in context of someone calling a person of color Souther
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:13 PM
Mar 2012

...Southern Strategy type words.

Remember it was Nixons manager that said we'll replace the word socialist with n*****r

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
99. Yel. To me...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:32 PM
Mar 2012

that epithet would probably be the modern day version of "House Ni**er".

And yes, it would make a lot of sense

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
86. Well, I was skeptical of this from the headlines and one-liners ... UNTIL
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:11 PM
Mar 2012

... I listened to the video several times.

No doubt in my feeble little mind ... Frothy (p)Rick DEFINITELY caught himself a fraction of a second too late. Busted.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
138. I also watched the video more than once and it became very clear to me
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 04:20 PM
Mar 2012

what he came so close to fully saying. He is not above using crude language in spite of trying to convey that he is a upstanding little goody goody Christian guy. Using his word he is full of "bullshit".

FSogol

(45,488 posts)
90. Prediction: On Monday all the pundits will play, "Is the n-word really bad since rap stars use it?"
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:13 PM
Mar 2012

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
100. The racist repug base will be fine with it
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:33 PM
Mar 2012

They will stammer and make excuses but really... This is what they want. Racist assholes, every last one of them.

eyewall

(674 posts)
108. I've watched it many times in succession
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 01:52 PM
Mar 2012

and I'm pretty sure he said exactly what he intended to say. I mean, I think he said it correctly, as he intended. I don't see his recovery being less scripted than his statement. He doesn't almost panic, he finishes his statement. If it were on a teleprompter it would have been written just as he said it.

The ensuing controversy would help the GOP. They pander to racism and I would guess that anytime Santorum or Romney makes a public racist remark that they go on to deny, it reaches a lot more closeted haters and draws them into the fold.

When he shifts his head slightly like he's throwing out that word and searching for another, it looks like it's been rehearsed. He said it this way on purpose. He doesn't hide his racism, he sneaks it into plain view to reaffirm to his supporters that they have the right party. He sends a message that politics can return to the division of apartheid like inequality. That white people can view themselves as the "masters".

Molly Ivens warned us to not take Dubya's idiocy for granted. He played the fool but it was with precision and with purpose. This season we see a re-targeted Rovian style of endearment attracting millions more bottom feeders up into the political process.

eyewall

(674 posts)
111. Santorum is still a candidate
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:06 PM
Mar 2012

and Rush Limbaugh is still on the air, after both of them have repeatedly said things publicly that would have gotten any other person booted from access to the public airwaves.

Over 140 advertisers have left the Limbaugh show and yet his extreme dominance of stations and time slots has not been curtailed. He should be off the air entirely. It's inconceivable that he isn't. The same is true of Santorum after so many racist remarks.

It's time for people to realize that reality has been rendered quaint by the contrived world that supports republican policies.

BumRushDaShow

(129,067 posts)
115. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:40 PM
Mar 2012

OMG



Thank goodness I wasn't drinking something because my keyboard would be toast!

ecstatic

(32,707 posts)
117. Santorum is definitely racist
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:43 PM
Mar 2012

Regardless of this latest slip. He has shown his true colors time and time again.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
120. I would love if he really did accidentally drop the word
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 02:51 PM
Mar 2012

His reputation would be destroyed over night, like a nuclear bomb to a corn field. He would be gone forever.

Mitt Romney would pee in his pants from the joy.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
130. Limbaugh's anal cysts would be on overdrive trying to come up with a spin
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:12 PM
Mar 2012

that makes it okay. The blaring whine of his voice would reach new heights of desperation.

GiveMeFreedom

(976 posts)
126. Holy Shit!!
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:05 PM
Mar 2012

What a slimy piece of shit, fucker. Taliban should recruit this asshole. Oh wait, the christian taliban claims this asshole already.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
164. What you saw is what the republican party has become.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:58 PM
Mar 2012

I don't personally know a single person that vote or call themselves republican that is not either racist, anti-poor, or insanely anti-immigrant. I have met one person that is republican and decent, and she appears to be near abandoning the party, given her heritage, I surmise that she was born into a long line of republicans.

There is no place for decent republicans, and there are many of that variety, in the modern republican party. If I weren't so at odds with their views, I would feel sorry for them, they have no where to go.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
127. He seemed very flustered when that came out of his mouth --
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:10 PM
Mar 2012

You can see him thinking "Oh, shit!" and then stumbling to recover.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
134. He definitely almost dropped the N-bomb
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:44 PM
Mar 2012

He may not personally use that word in private, but I have no doubt he has heard the word and/or the phrase "government n****r" many many times.

If he wasn't toast before, he's definitely toast now.

Botany

(70,515 posts)
135. He called the President a Government Nigger .... end of story
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:46 PM
Mar 2012

I didn't know until I just looked it up that Government Nigger means somebody
who lives off the government and after he / she spends their welfare check
on booze and drugs after which they are broke again.

He got half way through nigger and then froze up and started stuttering
when he realized he had let his true thoughts come out of his mouth. The
term Government Nigger is w/out a doubt one which Rick Santorum has
used and is comfortable about using. Good old Christian Ricky. I wonder
if Rick knows that the Jesus of the bible was a n*****?

Jesus had "hair like lamb's wool" and skin "of bronze."

If I offended anybody by typing out the word nigger I am sorry but
it needs to be put out their plan as day. BTW good on the other
DUers picking up that Rick tried to say African American right afterwards
to try to cover up his slip up of letting the world know what he thinks.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
136. It isn't as though Santorum isn't capable of using obnoxiously crude words in view of
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 03:50 PM
Mar 2012

his gaffe(?) using the word bullshit in reply to the reporter.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
137. Is this being covered at all on TV?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 04:06 PM
Mar 2012

I've been switching channels all morning on my tv machine but so far nada.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
140. Hey Rick, educational video for you
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 04:50 PM
Mar 2012




Makes me see how Santorum resembles an inept Russian gangster, but it doesn't replace my mental
picture of him as the American Taliban.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
144. I'll bet he was going to say negro but it was almost worse for him that he left it as ni...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:10 PM
Mar 2012


What an ass but we already knew that.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
145. He's stupid, but not that stupid to say it intentionally.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 05:18 PM
Mar 2012

That being said, I'm not ruling out a Freudian slip.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
151. Like hell. He is appealing to the GOP base. The n words works for them.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 06:20 PM
Mar 2012

He would jump up in the GOP polls if he finished the word.

Response to dzika (Original post)

Response to dzika (Original post)

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
158. I just don't think Santorum did this.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:18 PM
Mar 2012

I really don't. Now if it had been any of the other three, especially Ron Paul, I'd be right there.

brettdale

(12,381 posts)
159. have you seen the video
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:25 PM
Mar 2012

He says the word nig, then stops, what else could he be saying? and where the Fu*k is the mainstream media with this?

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
160. Yes.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:30 PM
Mar 2012

He says "government nig", and then repeats that, not just the "nig" part, before going on.

So I've no idea what he was saying, but I strongly doubt it was the N-word. I got a lot more reasons to despise Santorum than this, anyway.

brettdale

(12,381 posts)
162. government nig????
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:34 PM
Mar 2012

If this video is so inoccent, then how come the mainstream print/tv media arent reporting it, its like it doesnt exist.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
169. What does that mean, if it's the N-word? Who says anything like that?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:05 PM
Mar 2012

Nope, don't buy it. MSM doesn't cover things for many reasons, one of which is that there is no there there.

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
208. The phraze is a common slur shorthand that seems to have originated in the early 70's
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:42 PM
Mar 2012

It is so popular there is a WEBSITE with that name.

http://americangovernmentniggers.com/index.html

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
220. It's not common at all. As someone born in West Alabama in 1967, I've never heard it.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 07:38 PM
Mar 2012

And believe me, with my extended family, I would have.

And a website that originated in 1-1-2012 does not prove your point at all.

Nor does a google search for "government (N-word)" whose first five pages are all a reference to this Santorum statement.

It's not common at all. In fact, virtually not used would be a better description.

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
177. Oh baloney.....
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:21 PM
Mar 2012



Not only can you hear him say "NIGG" you also hear him try to recover with "AF"

and try to say African American, then suddenly realize that the term African American doesn't fit as a substitute for the N-word in this context, so he stumbles a second time.

The context triple dooms him and i have heard a THOUSAND bigoted white people try to recover in the EXACT same way.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
182. Well, good for you.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:47 AM
Mar 2012

As for me and my ears, Santorum saying (or trying to say and stopping) the N-word here makes absolutely no sense in the context of what he's saying. So I'm going to continue to think not.

And then I'll continue to rely on the 1,000 legitimate reasons to despise the man and his policies. If that's all right with you...

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
196. Nope. Too hot down here in Dallas for warm socks or earmuffs.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 04:49 AM
Mar 2012

Neither make a bit of sense down here. But thanks for asking.

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
207. I just explained the context and you said it makes no sense. Explain HOW, like I did.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:37 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Sat Mar 31, 2012, 04:35 PM - Edit history (1)

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
221. No, you didn't explain the context.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 07:41 PM
Mar 2012

You did a better job trying to show a context with the citation of the website in another post, but you didn't show how "anti-war government" naturally leads to the N-word at all.

I put nothing past little Ricky anymore. For all I know, he may get behind closed doors and start niCLANGing away. But how is this particular context and phraseology what trips him up in public? I just don't see it. And, again, there are far more overt statements of his that I'm concerned about.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
168. You want me to match you pictures of George Wallace posing with black people?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 09:04 PM
Mar 2012

Or how about quotes from Paul's racist newsletter?

Please get real immediately. Cracker is as cracker does.

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
178. "Cracker" is worse than any Paul, Romney, or even Newt quote I've seen
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 01:38 AM
Mar 2012

Seriously, stop the hate.

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
209. Get new eyes.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:44 PM
Mar 2012

Last edited Sat Mar 31, 2012, 01:37 PM - Edit history (1)

Seriously.

Even this comment is more racist than cracker.






"Barack Obama is an elitist, my goodness the man went to Harvard!"

- Williard Mitt Romney, JD & MBA Harvard University 1975

 

Ter

(4,281 posts)
242. Elitist is nothing compared to cracker
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 12:49 AM
Apr 2012

Cracker is a racial stereotype, right on par with nigger, kike, and spic. They are all vile and I hate even typing them.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
215. That's the "blah people" thing. Yes, I agree Rih was about
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 06:42 PM
Mar 2012

...to say "black people" there before he caught himself. But that's because it fits into the context of the hateful thing he was saying.

If the word before "nig" or "neg" had been something like "house" or "field" or something heinous like that, I would absolutely agree with you. But "government"? What would that even mean?

There are plenty of overt, clear reasons to oppose Rick Santorum. He says enough ignorant, hateful things right out loud to be bothered with the shadows.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
217. Citation, please.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 07:32 PM
Mar 2012

And since it's so abundant in usage, you won't have a problem finding one, right?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
161. What a f***kin racist pig!
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:33 PM
Mar 2012

And this sorry SOB sets himself up as a follower of Christ?

What a joke! All republicans are racist, women hating, rich loving anti american scumballs!

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
163. just amazing how little this is being covered by MSM....
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 07:43 PM
Mar 2012

I don't have a television, so I can't tell you about TV news.

However, look at this search of Google News:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&btnmeta_news_search=1&q=santorum+n+word&oq=santorum+n&aq=1z&aqi=d1g-z1g7g-m2d1&aql=&gs_l=news-cc.1.1.43j0i3j0l7j0i5l2j43i400.2407l3629l0l6177l10l10l0l3l3l0l197l757l2j4l6l0.

I think I counted 93 sources, none of them mainstream except the Guardian in the UK.

eta: You just know if President Obama almost slipped with an equivalent racist word, it would be the big TV news and Google News would be blowing up.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
174. There is no question what he was going to say... he probably is so comfortable
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:04 PM
Mar 2012

using that language and expressing racist thoughts he forgets himself.

We have all mis-spoken or tripped on a word... BUT HE DIDN'T EVEN FINISH THAT SENTENCE OR COMPLETE THE THOUGHT - he just completely switched thoughts in mid-stream

That is what is so telling ... this wasn't a vebal slip - his facial reaction and moving on to a different sentence completely shows that he knew what he almost said.

brettdale

(12,381 posts)
179. Kick
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:35 AM
Mar 2012

And fuck the msm, for not reporting on this video. Has anyone sent this to jon stewart or michael moore yet, hell I cant even find it on the huffingtonpost.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
180. Could be he meant to say the slur, but I'm skeptical
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:42 AM
Mar 2012

Using that word is the kiss of death for any white person in public life. Santorum's a quite experienced public figure, who, like all candidates, basically spends all day talking. I find it unlikely that he would ever dream of using that word in public and probably even in private too (that can be used against you as well).

Of course, anything's possible. If it is odd when put up against his 'blah people' remark too. But if I had to guess I would think he was trying to say something else and it got garbled.

brettdale

(12,381 posts)
187. still the msm sleeps
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:24 AM
Mar 2012

Not one msm outlet in the USA has reported or mention this video yet, please keep this thread kicked until they do, and please blast it out to every media outlet you know.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
193. very quick allusion to it here in the Chicago Tribune:
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:43 AM
Mar 2012
http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2012/03/this-is-not-a-hard-question-victor-davis-hanson.html

I came very close to blogging about this yesterday, when I first read Victor Davis Hanson's bewildered column on Trayvon Martin. Here's what stuck out for me: The guy is just so terribly confused about who is allowed to say the n-word and when.

The country is obsessed with decoding a scratchy tape to ascertain whether Mr. Zimmerman said “cold, coons, goons, or punks,” with the idea that if the garbled word proves a racial slur, then we have the magical key that will supposedly unlock the case — even as the late Travyon Martin self-identified himself with the N-word on his Twitter account and used it of his friends. No one can explain why Mr. Martin felt a need to so self-identify; no one seems to care; and no one can provide rules of the conditions under which (who says it, and when, why, how) society must deplore the use of such an epithet.


(National Review's The Corner)

I'm sure glad I waited until today to comment on it, though. Because at least - I hope - we can all agree that it's not a word Rick Santorum should use.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
197. Tampa Bay WTSP: Did Rick Santorum start to call President Barack Obama the n-word? The NAACP reacts
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 04:51 AM
Mar 2012
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/248160/36/Did-Rick-Santorum-start-to-call-President-Barack-Obama-the-n-word-The-NAACP-reacts

TAMPA, Fla. - Officials with the Hillsborough County chapter of the NAACP reacted to a YouTube clip Friday that some say shows GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum starting to call President Obama the n-word.

"I think he said it. He may not have went all the way. He let the first syllable out, enough that it was on its way. It is not unusual for Rick Santorum," said chapter president Carolyn Collins.

The flub came Tuesday while Santorum was speaking to a crowd in Wisconsin. Santorum appeared to briefly stumble over his words. "We know... we know the candidate Barack Obama, what he was like. The anti-war, government nig-- uh, the, uh, America was a source for division around the world."

10 News wanted to know what other Bay Area residents heard in the clip. Some say, they're not sure.

theophilus

(3,750 posts)
199. Still true?
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 10:13 AM
Mar 2012

“No man who spells Negro with two g’s will ever be elected President of the United States.”

– William H. Seward, U.S. Senator (Whig & Republican, NY)

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
213. Sorry but Woodroe Wilson and LBJ were two exceptions....
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 01:42 PM
Mar 2012

.....have you ever heard Lenny Bruce's routine about how LBJ can't say Negro?

"It always comes out NIG-ERO. He just can't say it!!"

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
211. I think he was going to say "terrorist negotiator"
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 01:39 PM
Mar 2012

and accidently said "government" and got half way to the "negotiator" before realizing "government negotatior" doesn't make much sense.

Dropping the n-word in a speech is complete and total political suicide.

brettdale

(12,381 posts)
219. Not even the Huffingtonpost???????????
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 07:37 PM
Mar 2012

Not even the huffingtonpost has this video on their webpage?????????

Why is even left wing msm avoiding this???????

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
222. The phrase is a common slur shorthand that seems to have originated in the early 70's
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 07:46 PM
Mar 2012



It is so popular there is a WEBSITE with that name.

http://americangovernmentniggers.com/index.html
 
224. If he did do it, it was intentional.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 08:11 PM
Mar 2012

There are no accident in politics.

When I think of Janesville, I think of the KKK. Geraldo got his nose punched out there. If this was done by design, it was to appeal to racist cheezeheads.

And?

I detest all types of slurs. The N-word is something I hate to utter, even when quoting another person. But maybe it's gonna take a White person using it to get it thru the thick skulls of those people of color who persist in using it that it is low-rent and self-hating. I also despise the word "queer" but since I am not a lesbian, I guess I don't have the right to do so.

auburngrad82

(5,029 posts)
226. I think Frothy is cracking under the pressure
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 08:43 PM
Mar 2012

He's frustrated that he's not getting what he wants and he knows he'll not beat RMoney. And I think he's cracking.

I think he truly believes he was chosen by God to save the country from us heathens. It's got to be frustrating for him to think that he's not going to be able to pull it off. The insanity is beginning to show.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
240. Man up, Rick. You went there.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:13 PM
Apr 2012

Just like you did with "blaaaaah people".

Might as well own it, dude. It's not like it's gonna hurt you with your base or anything.

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