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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDear Americans, Your Hashtags Won't #BringBackOurGirls; You Might Actually Be Making Things Worse
This piece brings up some interesting points about not letting our concern for these poor young ladies caught up in this terrible kidnapping end up hurting them and others.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jumoke-balogun/hashtags-wont-bringbackourgirls_b_5292312.html
Jumoke Balogun - Co-Founder of CompareAfrique.com
Posted: 05/08/2014 9:41 pm EDT
Simple question. Are you Nigerian? Do you have constitutional rights accorded to Nigerians to participate in their democratic process? If not, I have news for you. You can't do anything about the girls missing in Nigeria. You can't. Your insistence on urging American power, specifically American military power, to address this issue will ultimately hurt the people of Nigeria.
It heartens me that you've taken up the mantle of spreading "awareness" about the 200+ girls who were abducted from their school in Chibok; it heartens me that you've heard the cries of mothers and fathers who go yet another day without their child. It's nice that you care.
Here's the thing though. When you pressure Western powers, particularly the American government, to get involved in African affairs, and when you champion military intervention, you become part of a much larger problem. You become a complicit participant in a military expansionist agenda on the continent of Africa. This is not good.
You might not know this, but the United States military loves your hashtags because it gives them legitimacy to encroach and grow their military presence in Africa. AFRICOM (United States Africa Command), the military body that is responsible for overseeing US military operations across Africa, gained much from #KONY2012 and will now gain even more from #BringBackOurGirls.
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radiclib
(1,811 posts)Must be a Greenwald lover.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)If these were 10 white girls there would have been a pile of dead black dudes and they would be home by now, no debate, no discussion, no hashtags
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)dsc
(52,162 posts)less than 80 years old.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)You have 2 dead pirates in that case. There was no negotiation, no debate, no hastags, the seals moved in took 2 of them out (rightfully so) and captured the one who didnt poke his head out.
In 1993 when 18 service men were killed trying to capture a notorious warlord, troops went into there and killed nearly 3,000 Somalis afterwards
The rules of engagement are very different for black Africans when it involves the injury or capture of whites also the public's willingness to get involved is quite different when those same factors are involved.
I have no doubt in my mind if the 9/11 attacks were masterminded by Black Africans, the operation to take down Al Qaeda would have been concluded by Summer of 2002 and there would be no prisoners.
Look, I'm not advocating for Bongo Hamhock or whatever they're called. I think special forces from whatever country should go in there and kill them all, take no prisoners. They serve no value to society when they try to stifle the advancement of others but that's not going to happen because one simple fact remains; these girls are black. This is also why the Kony 2012 campaign fell flat, no one was willing to put lives on the line to capture black africans who "only" pose a danger to other black africans.
Some may argue that keeping brutal thugs like Kony or Bongo Hemorrhoids in place makes it easier to take Africa's resources because you don't have to worry about the people resisting, just pay a warlord under the table and he'll take care of the rest.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)Special forces today are light years ahead of where they were in 1979, largely because of that failed rescue mission.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)So,uh...
It worked.
treestar
(82,383 posts)He is more worried about Nigeria's power. They should be taking all the help they can get.
I will also say, I'm sure that their parents are hopeful that anything that spurs action will result in finding the girls. Nothing else matters right now.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)I am of mixed feelings. Part of me is on the side of "Go Seals! Go Rangers! Kick some kidnapper ass".
But what she presents about how we should quit trying to be the world's top cop does have some merit.
In any event - I am in no shape to fly to Africa, grab a .50 cal and big belt of ammo and go monster hunting. And so I will give my thoughts and meditations and hopes that courageous, wise, and compassionate people can rescue these young women before it is too late.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)And the people that are so concerned about military intervention instead of saving lives would scream if someone took this view if their own children were in danger.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)A warmonger in the mold of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. The message to young people should be: do not concern yourselves with atrocities taking place abroad. Be insular. Be incurious. You may now return to playing Flappy Bird and Candy Crush.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)The US is incompetent to figure out who from whom. To get the girls back would involve invading the country, partioning the nation, putting up walls as forcing id's upon the population to determine who belongs where.
LETS GO FOR IT!
or may b e a hashtag is easier....
randome
(34,845 posts)...would be an expert on international military and detective operations. Geeze, that must be an incredibly comfortable armchair you're sitting in.
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Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)partition the nation, put up walls, and "force IDs upon the population", to "determine who belonged where".
But the big difference is that the Osama Bin Laden raid took place without the cooperation of the Pakistan government, whereas Nigeria has actually asked for our assistance.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Julius Caeser did it to defeat the pirates, and he had a beef.
This is not our problem.
I think our hashtag offensive against Boko Haram is exactly right
randome
(34,845 posts)Bullshit article by a George Will lover.
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flamingdem
(39,313 posts)He noted that it's tough to fight them without restructuring the country - and that the current govt has some responsibility due to election practices - as does the United States. He does hope worldwide attention will force the govt to address the fact that the army is ineffective.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Mainly because there have been so many instances of our military intervening overseas and making things even worse.
William769
(55,147 posts)What complete and utter bullshit! There is no fucking reason none whatsoever to even side with some asshole that writes a piece of shit article and it makes me wonder about anyone who believes it.
This is nothing but bullshit from start to finish and should and will by me be treated as such. Un fucking believable.
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The road to Nigeria is paved with cutthroat thieves murderer's & rapists (just to name a few.)
sheshe2
(83,771 posts)The government of Nigeria is finally asking for help. The Mothers The Fathers The Sisters The Brothers are crying out for help. They want their girls back. It is obvious that they cannot or will not do it on there own!
Yes this is indeed bullshit. One voice says no and millions say yes!
#bringback our girls.
Thanks William, well said.
William769
(55,147 posts)They need to come home posthaste.
Number23
(24,544 posts)and I'm sure these two are not alone.
sheshe2
(83,771 posts)I don't give a rats ass what GG has to say, nor do you!
They can kiss my ass! They want the money they want their headlines and they are the worst bottom feeders that I have ever seen. That GG is lauded here makes me sick.
I want the girls home. They have been damaged and I hope that that is not beyond repair.
God damn it bring those girls home. We need to bring them home.
They are our future...
Keep us safe. Yes we need to keep them safe.