Zimmerman's brother: George was barely conscious as his head was banged into the concrete

[Cali_Democrat]

Last edited Fri Mar 30, 2012, 04:10 AM - Edit history (1)

The lies from the Zimmermans are getting insane:

George was out of breath. He was barely conscious.

His last thing he remembers doing was moving his head from the concrete to the grass so that if he was banged one more time, he wouldn't be wearing diapers for the rest of his life and being spoon fed by his brother and there would have been George dead.


Begins at about 11:00 into the first video:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/piers-morgan-interviews-george-zimmermans-brother-about-night-of-trayvon-martin-shooting

Funny...he was walking around the police station and looking absolutely fine only 35 minutes later:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002491203

[shraby]

1. With no lumps all over the back of his head, no scratches there and no blood.

[niyad]

4. according to some, that is because the paramedics cleaned him up (and, presumably, martinized

his jacket, since there were no stains on it, either. oh, wait, martinizing is a one-hour process)

[Ken Burch]

22. Did they iron the bumps off his head, as well?

n/t.

[w8liftinglady]

35. A nurse calls Bullshit

If the EMTs were worth a damn,they would have immobiled his neck and taken him to the ER.
He has an injury to post front and read head,which can lead to Coup contrecoup,an injury to the opposite side of the brain.An ER doc would have ordered a ct of the head,a C-spine xray,as well as the various array of labs(cbc,blood count,HIV,Hepatitis,and drug and alcohol levels.If he almost lost consciousness due to a head injury,they might have even kept him overnight as a precaution.

[SamG]

47. You say "A nurse".. is that YOU?

I am in agreement with that way of looking at a clinical intervention plan for someone claiming those injuries.

Just wondering if you heard this, or if you are saying this from your own expertise as a nurse.

[FarPoint]

58. Okay Nurse...answer me this...

My brother who has been in jail for mischief...he said they always have a medical staff at a jail that size...Medical 24/7...staffed with Medics, RN's and LPN's....so, if he was beaten, the medical nurse would have to assess this guy medically before accepting him into the jail. Assessing for clearance to be clinically safe in the jail. If not stable, he'd need medical care; maybe if acceptable and minor, non threatening stuff per the medical staff or be seen in ER if more care is required....

What say you?

[Ecumenist]

7. A Pristine shirt. There should be bloodstains all over that criminal.

[FarPoint]

19. The Zimmerman camp obviously are on a mission.

Tell the lies at all times, as often as possible and by multiple messengers....drown out the truth. That's what I'm seeing. Fox news propaganda tactics.

[Ecumenist]

25. The problem with their strategy is that it only works with fox nooz watchers.

The People they have any hope of convincing ALREADY, believe them, by and large. It's the VAST majority of the rest of us that don't buy their crap. They forget that the rest of us are aren't under the fox spell of lies. The best thing that they could happen is for them to STFU.

[SamG]

49. Exactly right! A good crim defense atty would

advise that NO STATEMENTS be made.

Obviously, Lawrence O'Donnell has already proved that this defense atty for Z is incompetent and cowardly.

[Cali_Democrat]

13. It was a medical miracle.

[niyad]

2. let's see--he was barely conscious, and yet he managed to shoot and kill his supposed assailant?

they must really think we are all total, gullible idiots.

[bigtree]

41. right

what a sad spectacle

[SteveABG]

3. George's story gets more and more desperate.

To be honest, until a couple of days ago, I felt like there wasn't much chance that he was going to be brought to justice.

The way his story has fallen apart and gotten increasingly more desperate has both left me with a sickness over what it appears really happened, and a good deal of hope that this story is falling apart so badly, that we might actually see some justice.

[niyad]

5. I wouldn't hold my breath, if I were you.

you mentioned a suicide watch in another post, if I recall. it just occurred to me how he can get out of this--supposedly commit suicide, have a body conveniently cremated--end of problem. oh, and leaving a note saying he was driven to it by all the horrible publicity, and his innocent heart just couldn't take it anymore.

(note to zimmerman family--PLEASE, get yourselves a decent scriptwriter, one who can come up with something at least remotely plausible. you are clearly out of your depth)

[Ecumenist]

8. I think he's too much of a narcissist to do that.

[niyad]

10. you missed the point--I was talking about him faking a suicide.

ken lay comes to mind

[Ecumenist]

14. Wonder f he can move to the Isla-er, uh, I meant be buried in the same

"cemetary" as Lay?

[SteveABG]

9. well

Even if we get any justice, we may not get justice.

If an arrest warrant is ever issued, and police show up to arrest him, I don't imagine he would be able to take it.

[Ecumenist]

6. Oh, I know he's lying because anyone in the know will tell you when people sustain concussions

they will forget everything right before and during the event often. they need to stop while they're "ahead". He wouldn't be walking around like that so soon after the event. Oh please man, don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining

[HockeyMom]

29. They will start throwing up

and become very, very sleepy. Having kids, who played both soccer and ice hockey, we were always told that about concussions. Keep talking to them. See if they are coherient. Don't let them go to sleep. If they start throwing up, get them to a hospital immediately.

As I said on another thread, I have seen hockey players with helmuts on sustain concussion from being slammed into the boards or hitting their heads on the ice. Even in soccer, there was a lot of warnings about heading a ball causing concussions.

I just cannot understand how somebody could be conscientious or not sustain a concussion having their bare head smashed into concrete multiple times.

[Ecumenist]

30. Exactly but the people theare trying to convince are already there, the fox nuts

The rest of the country DOES.NOT.BUY.IT! Have you noticed that the story keeps mutating?

[EmeraldCityGrl]

11. Do these fu*king idiots realize

there is a federal investigation and they are committing a crime
telling these blatant lies? I hope they perjure themselves when they
are called in to testify. How insulated and cushy of a life do you have to
have lived to expect the world to swallow this bullshit?

[Mariana]

23. I don't think lying on teevee is a crime in the US.

If it were, everyone at Faux Nooz would have been long since. If they lie directly to any of the investigators, or in court, they can be done for that. I'm pretty sure they're allowed to lie to everyone else.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

44. Hahaha...yes U would be right. It's just so darn frustrating

and they are just so shockingly good at it.

[SamG]

50. They can lie on Teevee, but if their lies serve to...

obstruct the investigation in any way, they MIGHT BE charged, especially if such lies substantially hinder the final disposition of justice.

[grantcart]

12. Its not funny that he was looking absolutely fine 35 minutes later.

It was a religious event.

It was a miracle.

All of his wounds were healed.

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

[SamG]

51. Excellent post! n/t

[ellisonz]

15. Best Line: "The most honest brother"

MORGAN: Has George ever lied to you?

ZIMMERMAN: Not to my knowledge, no.

MORGAN: He's always been completely, 100 percent honest?

ZIMMERMAN: He's -- he would be the more honest of the two. The most honest brother. I would say. He's very straight and narrow. And you know, very helpful guy. Very concerned with his neighbor and the truth.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1203/29/pmt.01.html

Does that mean they're all dishonest?

[SamG]

52. GREAT catch! Yes! "The more honest" implies

the brothers are both DIS honest sometimes.

[Ecumenist]

54. How many brothers are there? if he is one of two, why is he talking about himself in

3rd person singular? WEIRD.

[SamG]

57. Don't know that, sorry! n/t

[crunch60]

16. Had paramedics knew he suffered such head trauma, they would have put him in

a neck brace and taken him to the hospital for X-rays. OK now, let's see the medical records.
Boy, they are spinning this out of control and weaving a web they won't be able to escape.

[BeyondGeography]

17. Zimmerman's security guard colleagues: He was an authoritarian Jekyll and Hyde

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/george-zimmerman-lost-job-party-security-guard-aggressive-ex-co-worker-article-1.1053223

[321Morrow]

20. Zimmerman may have been primed to do this - may or may not be guilty

I can believe that. Didn't he call 911 something like 49 times before this incident?

That does not necessarily mean Zimmerman is guilty of a crime.

I do think we should let the facts play out first.

It could be a case of Zimmerman following Trayvon Martin, and then Martin attacking Zimmerman because he thinks Zimmerman is about to attack him.

But it looks like Zimmerman was primed to do something like this.

[Boabab]

28. Please stop with the lies

There is NO evidence that Zimmerman was attacked at all. In fact, everything points to the contrary. The coroner has definitively stated that there are no wounds on Trayvon's hands consistent with any kind of physical struggle.

Add that to the evidence offered by Trayvon's girlfriend about their conversation just before the shooting, as well as the shooter's immaculate appearance 30 minutes later, and it becomes clear that "the attack" is just another one of Zimmerman's lies. Telling lies seems to run in the family.

The likely scenario: he stalked the young man, and then shot him from a distance in the back when he was unable to catch him.

[NOLALady]

42. Have you ever attacked someone

because you thought you were going to be attacked? Would you attack someone nearly twice your size who had a weapon? Or would you run?

[Ecumenist]

55. REALLY? You know, you guys really need to come up with a better strategy,; you all sound the

same and we can see you guys coming from 20 miles away. If you're Genuinely in the dark even after the mountain load of evidence and corroborative testimonies and videos, then I suppose there has ti be one somewhere in the world but REALLY?

[yardwork]

56. Even if Trayvon attacked Zimmerman (which I doubt), Trayvon had that right under SYG

My understanding is that Florida's Stand Your Ground law allows a person to defend themselves - to the death - if they feel threatened. Trayvon certainly would have felt threatened by Zimmerman. The 911 calls prove that. So if Trayvon did attack Zimmerman (which has not been proven and which I doubt as there is no evidence that Zimmerman suffered any injuries), then Trayvon was legally within his right to do so.

[baldguy]

18. Next they'll be saying that Zimmerman was actually clinically dead after Trayvon beat him up.

This is turning into a damned Monty Python sketch.

[Chipper Chat]

21. Gimme an H........................................."H'

Gimme an O ............................ O
Gimme an A ............................ A
Gimme an X ............................ X
.
Whatz that spell? .................... 'Zimmerman'

[ibegurpard]

24. lucky shot then I guess huh?

this bullshit is getting ludicrous.

[gkhouston]

26. Yes, and GZ has superhuman powers of quick recovery because he's a superhero...

Bullshit Man.

[Evasporque]

32. He is ZImmer Man! Able to leap to a tall conlusion in a single bound!

TO boldly lie in a way no man has lied before....

[Baitball Blogger]

27. The evidence just doesn't back up their statements.

[Fawke Em]

31. That's it. I'm moving to Sanford.

Apparently, their fire department EMTs can work MIRACLES and cure people instantly!

Zimmerman was nearly unconscious, had a broken nose and severe lacerations on the back of his head, yet 35 minutes later he was walking around nonchalantly, fully conscious with no hint of a broken nose or those nasty lacerations! And, to top it off, these EMTs even miraculously clean his shirt of any blood!

What person facing a healthcare disaster wouldn't want to be treated by these fine men and women?

[HockeyMom]

33. If Zimmerman went to the hospital the next day, as they are saying,

his hospital records can be subpoenaed. You can be sure if he told them his head was slammed on concrete, the hospital would have done a catscan, and there would be a medical record of his examination.

Even a day later his "injuries" would have not have gone away.

[WI_DEM]

34. The Zimmerman's aren't doing George any favors by their comments

which are coming back to bite them in the ass.

[Javaman]

36. Those must have been some amazing smelling salts!

35 minutes later he's walking into the police station on video.

[Bluerthanblue]

37. the person screaming on the 911 tapes was fully conscious

right up till the time they were shot.

So, I guess Robert doesn't agree with his father that it was George doing the screaming.



The remarks by Zimmerman's family sounds like they read too many cheap crime novels.

[HillWilliam]

38. That beeyess is so deep

I can smell it all the way to northern NC.

[Generic Other]

39. The hyperbole family

They see hate in every black man's eyes including the president. They suffer from phantom pains. Imaginary threats to their manhood that must be met by violence. Chronic victimhood. The need to spout their innocence by proxy.

I have no doubt Zimmerman's brother might end his days spoonfeeding his brother and changing his soiled diapers. But that won't be anyone else's fault, now will it? He assaults a police officer, batters a girlfriend, is fired from a job for losing his temper and violently attacking a woman, has 911 on speed dial so he can file "reports." And he killed an unarmed teenager carrying candy.

I am not a shrink but I know when I think someone needs one.

[SamG]

53. Great post! n/t

[mnmoderatedem]

40. yet he still had the ability and wherewithall

to chase down and shoot Martin.

He must be some sort of superspecies!!

[Rex]

43. PLEASE KEEP LYING!!

I think I hear Rush yelling 'stop, stop!'

The more they lie, the bigger the fall will be. EVERYONE can see on the video footage Zimm has nothing wrong with him!!!

Keep it up!

[Cali_Democrat]

45. Supposedly this is George's story

He certainly has quite an imagination. I wonder if this could be used against him in court because it's obvious that he's bullshiting people.

[SamG]

46. As O P said "looking absolutely fine", I add ready to..

party hearty with the cops!!!!

REALLY!!! He looks like he LIKES being taken into the station, as if he's going to a party about to be held in his HONOR for killing that horrible black guy!

[sakabatou]

48. If he really was that close to having a broken neck

Wouldn't be in a neck brace in all the pictures/videos? That's not the case.